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Mar 23, 2014 18:57:10   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bahmer, old roy, ginnyt, Duckie, and others of faith. If your name is not on the list, do not take offense.

In the last several days there have been forums wherein individuals of faith have been denigrated, mocked and much more. I thought perhaps we should have our own little Sunday site session lesson, as well as music.

Dark history swirls around famous hymn

by Kate Uttinger

Horatio Spafford

It’s a familiar story, one that many hymn books recount and preachers use to illustrate a hearty faith in God during difficult times. On a November night in 1873, the t***s-Atlantic steamer Ville de Havre collided with a British vessel, the Loch Earn. In less than 12 minutes, the sea swallowed the Ville de Havre in her icy, black waters some thousand miles from the French coast. Crew from the other ship, alight in skiffs and other makeshift rescue vessels, frantically scoured for the living and the dead amidst a choppy mess of splintered wood, steamer trunks and strewn clothing.

The British sailors managed to rescue a few fortunate souls, including a young woman draped over some floating wreckage, alive, but unconscious. Many others fared not so well; 232 souls perished in what some have called the worst maritime catastrophe until the Titanic sunk in 1912. Among the Ville de Havre’s dead were the four young daughters of Chicago lawyer Horatio Spafford. He had sent the children and their mother, Anna Spafford, to vacation in France, where he would later join them after he finished some pressing business affairs at home.

When the crew finally succeeded in reviving the nearly half-drowned, unconscious woman, she cried out for her children – four girls, one just a baby, “torn violently from her arms” by the roiling sea. Once ashore, Anna Spafford sent her husband a brief but poignant telegraph: “Saved alone.”

As Horatio Spafford sailed across the Atlantic to reunite with his grieving wife, the ship’s captain called Spafford to his cabin. By the captain’s estimate, they were now sailing over the place where the Ville de Havre went down. Overcome with a torrent of emotion, Horatio Spafford returned to his cabin and composed a piece of poetry destined to become one of the church’s most beloved hymns, “It Is Well with My Soul.”

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt1m8a_bill-gloria-gaither-it-is-well-with-my-soul-feat-guy-penrod-and-david-phelps-live_music


PS: Rumitoid, I choose this verson especially for you.

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Mar 23, 2014 21:02:09   #
grace scott
 
Beautiful. Reminds me of the music at "old Time Prayer Meetings". Thank you.

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Mar 23, 2014 21:09:32   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
AuntiE wrote:
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bahmer, old roy, ginnyt, Duckie, and others of faith. If your name is not on the list, do not take offense.

In the last several days there have been forums wherein individuals of faith have been denigrated, mocked and much more. I thought perhaps we should have our own little Sunday site session lesson, as well as music.

Dark history swirls around famous hymn

by Kate Uttinger

Horatio Spafford

It’s a familiar story, one that many hymn books recount and preachers use to illustrate a hearty faith in God during difficult times. On a November night in 1873, the t***s-Atlantic steamer Ville de Havre collided with a British vessel, the Loch Earn. In less than 12 minutes, the sea swallowed the Ville de Havre in her icy, black waters some thousand miles from the French coast. Crew from the other ship, alight in skiffs and other makeshift rescue vessels, frantically scoured for the living and the dead amidst a choppy mess of splintered wood, steamer trunks and strewn clothing.

The British sailors managed to rescue a few fortunate souls, including a young woman draped over some floating wreckage, alive, but unconscious. Many others fared not so well; 232 souls perished in what some have called the worst maritime catastrophe until the Titanic sunk in 1912. Among the Ville de Havre’s dead were the four young daughters of Chicago lawyer Horatio Spafford. He had sent the children and their mother, Anna Spafford, to vacation in France, where he would later join them after he finished some pressing business affairs at home.

When the crew finally succeeded in reviving the nearly half-drowned, unconscious woman, she cried out for her children – four girls, one just a baby, “torn violently from her arms” by the roiling sea. Once ashore, Anna Spafford sent her husband a brief but poignant telegraph: “Saved alone.”

As Horatio Spafford sailed across the Atlantic to reunite with his grieving wife, the ship’s captain called Spafford to his cabin. By the captain’s estimate, they were now sailing over the place where the Ville de Havre went down. Overcome with a torrent of emotion, Horatio Spafford returned to his cabin and composed a piece of poetry destined to become one of the church’s most beloved hymns, “It Is Well with My Soul.”

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt1m8a_bill-gloria-gaither-it-is-well-with-my-soul-feat-guy-penrod-and-david-phelps-live_music


PS: Rumitoid, I choose this verson especially for you.
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bah... (show quote)


Although I'm not on your list, I want to thank you for your post.

Thanks AuntiE...

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Mar 23, 2014 21:09:57   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
grace scott wrote:
Beautiful. Reminds me of the music at "old Time Prayer Meetings". Thank you.


The Gaithers do an excellent job. :thumbup:

I am glad you enjoyed it. Be blessed!

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Mar 23, 2014 21:12:47   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
Although I'm not on your list, I want to thank you for your post.

Thanks AuntiE...


I not meant to offend anyone by not naming them. The names I listed were based on PMs we have had on faith issues.

I am joyful you enjoyed it. Be blessed.

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Mar 24, 2014 00:59:16   #
Ricktloml
 
AuntiE wrote:
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bahmer, old roy, ginnyt, Duckie, and others of faith. If your name is not on the list, do not take offense.

In the last several days there have been forums wherein individuals of faith have been denigrated, mocked and much more. I thought perhaps we should have our own little Sunday site session lesson, as well as music.

Dark history swirls around famous hymn

by Kate Uttinger

Horatio Spafford

It’s a familiar story, one that many hymn books recount and preachers use to illustrate a hearty faith in God during difficult times. On a November night in 1873, the t***s-Atlantic steamer Ville de Havre collided with a British vessel, the Loch Earn. In less than 12 minutes, the sea swallowed the Ville de Havre in her icy, black waters some thousand miles from the French coast. Crew from the other ship, alight in skiffs and other makeshift rescue vessels, frantically scoured for the living and the dead amidst a choppy mess of splintered wood, steamer trunks and strewn clothing.

The British sailors managed to rescue a few fortunate souls, including a young woman draped over some floating wreckage, alive, but unconscious. Many others fared not so well; 232 souls perished in what some have called the worst maritime catastrophe until the Titanic sunk in 1912. Among the Ville de Havre’s dead were the four young daughters of Chicago lawyer Horatio Spafford. He had sent the children and their mother, Anna Spafford, to vacation in France, where he would later join them after he finished some pressing business affairs at home.

When the crew finally succeeded in reviving the nearly half-drowned, unconscious woman, she cried out for her children – four girls, one just a baby, “torn violently from her arms” by the roiling sea. Once ashore, Anna Spafford sent her husband a brief but poignant telegraph: “Saved alone.”

As Horatio Spafford sailed across the Atlantic to reunite with his grieving wife, the ship’s captain called Spafford to his cabin. By the captain’s estimate, they were now sailing over the place where the Ville de Havre went down. Overcome with a torrent of emotion, Horatio Spafford returned to his cabin and composed a piece of poetry destined to become one of the church’s most beloved hymns, “It Is Well with My Soul.”

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt1m8a_bill-gloria-gaither-it-is-well-with-my-soul-feat-guy-penrod-and-david-phelps-live_music


PS: Rumitoid, I choose this verson especially for you.
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bah... (show quote)


It matters little whether they mock or denigrate me , their imperil themselves as the mock the only true God, who when He is for you there is none that can ever really hurt you, as the Lord God, through his redemptive Son gives power over all our enemies. God Bless you

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Mar 24, 2014 01:19:18   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
AuntiE wrote:
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bahmer, old roy, ginnyt, Duckie, and others of faith. If your name is not on the list, do not take offense.

In the last several days there have been forums wherein individuals of faith have been denigrated, mocked and much more. I thought perhaps we should have our own little Sunday site session lesson, as well as music.

Dark history swirls around famous hymn

by Kate Uttinger

Horatio Spafford

It’s a familiar story, one that many hymn books recount and preachers use to illustrate a hearty faith in God during difficult times. On a November night in 1873, the t***s-Atlantic steamer Ville de Havre collided with a British vessel, the Loch Earn. In less than 12 minutes, the sea swallowed the Ville de Havre in her icy, black waters some thousand miles from the French coast. Crew from the other ship, alight in skiffs and other makeshift rescue vessels, frantically scoured for the living and the dead amidst a choppy mess of splintered wood, steamer trunks and strewn clothing.

The British sailors managed to rescue a few fortunate souls, including a young woman draped over some floating wreckage, alive, but unconscious. Many others fared not so well; 232 souls perished in what some have called the worst maritime catastrophe until the Titanic sunk in 1912. Among the Ville de Havre’s dead were the four young daughters of Chicago lawyer Horatio Spafford. He had sent the children and their mother, Anna Spafford, to vacation in France, where he would later join them after he finished some pressing business affairs at home.

When the crew finally succeeded in reviving the nearly half-drowned, unconscious woman, she cried out for her children – four girls, one just a baby, “torn violently from her arms” by the roiling sea. Once ashore, Anna Spafford sent her husband a brief but poignant telegraph: “Saved alone.”

As Horatio Spafford sailed across the Atlantic to reunite with his grieving wife, the ship’s captain called Spafford to his cabin. By the captain’s estimate, they were now sailing over the place where the Ville de Havre went down. Overcome with a torrent of emotion, Horatio Spafford returned to his cabin and composed a piece of poetry destined to become one of the church’s most beloved hymns, “It Is Well with My Soul.”

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt1m8a_bill-gloria-gaither-it-is-well-with-my-soul-feat-guy-penrod-and-david-phelps-live_music


PS: Rumitoid, I choose this verson especially for you.
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bah... (show quote)









I'm still clapping. Thank you for the story overall.

Considering this may be an old people party, I thought I would provide the text. I suspect a goodly amount of you are more THAN half deaf, I apologize in advance for not being able to adjust the font size, cause again I suspect that most if not all of you, h*****g out at the wrinkle ranch, are reading these words through a set of bifocals. Heck some of you may even to need binoculars, again just a sneaky suspicion, don't mind me, just thinking out loud.



http://acacia.pair.com/Acacia.Vignettes/It.Is.Well.With.My.Soul.html

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Mar 24, 2014 01:40:55   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Worried for our children wrote:
I'm still clapping. Thank you for the story overall.

Considering this may be an old people party, I thought I would provide the text. I suspect a goodly amount of you are more THAN half deaf, I apologize in advance for not being able to adjust the font size, cause again I suspect that most if not all of you, h*****g out at the wrinkle ranch, are reading these words through a set of bifocals. Heck some of you may even to need binoculars, again just a sneaky suspicion, don't mind me, just thinking out loud.



http://acacia.pair.com/Acacia.Vignettes/It.Is.Well.With.My.Soul.html
I'm still clapping. Thank you for the story overal... (show quote)


E X C U S E ME...you just said what. Are you totally out of your ever loving mind, and trust me that is MUCH kinder then what I was thinking.

You have the unmitigated effrontery to take a Sunday lesson and insult an entire group of individuals. As to "thinking out loud", thinking obviously totally evaded you.

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf:

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Mar 24, 2014 02:42:44   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
AuntiE wrote:
E X C U S E ME...you just said what. Are you totally out of your ever loving mind, and trust me that is MUCH kinder then what I was thinking.

You have the unmitigated effrontery to take a Sunday lesson and insult an entire group of individuals. As to "thinking out loud", thinking obviously totally evaded you.

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf: :hunf:






First: Calm down, and please, don't yell at me, we go to far back for that kind of nonsense.

Second: You proposed an idea for a "topic". To which not one person that responded encouraged, not the ones you named, not even the one you pretty much dedicated your idea too. And to think I almost felt slighted.

Third: My intent was to inject humor, considering the people that you did name, I've gleened that these names have some years on me. It was not my intent to disgrace your idea or your post, if that were even possible.


Fourth: I know where your idea came from, however that does not negate the fact that this is still a political forum, and I still have the right to express myself, or did I miss the memo? I think perhaps you're still hungover from a different forum, and you're taking it out on me, and thats fine, I'll just chalk it up to a senior moment.

P.S. Thumbs up for your idea, and your original post.

Big thumbs down for your reply to me.


I didn't put my original thoughts out loud for this reply. Goodnight to you AuntiE.

Btw did you even notice what the link I provided was.... I couldn't hear all the words they were singing, so I looked up the "text", the words it was inspired by, and posted it so others may be able to read it if they wish.

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Mar 24, 2014 11:37:46   #
bahmer
 
AuntiE wrote:
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bahmer, old roy, ginnyt, Duckie, and others of faith. If your name is not on the list, do not take offense.

In the last several days there have been forums wherein individuals of faith have been denigrated, mocked and much more. I thought perhaps we should have our own little Sunday site session lesson, as well as music.

Dark history swirls around famous hymn

by Kate Uttinger

Horatio Spafford

It’s a familiar story, one that many hymn books recount and preachers use to illustrate a hearty faith in God during difficult times. On a November night in 1873, the t***s-Atlantic steamer Ville de Havre collided with a British vessel, the Loch Earn. In less than 12 minutes, the sea swallowed the Ville de Havre in her icy, black waters some thousand miles from the French coast. Crew from the other ship, alight in skiffs and other makeshift rescue vessels, frantically scoured for the living and the dead amidst a choppy mess of splintered wood, steamer trunks and strewn clothing.

The British sailors managed to rescue a few fortunate souls, including a young woman draped over some floating wreckage, alive, but unconscious. Many others fared not so well; 232 souls perished in what some have called the worst maritime catastrophe until the Titanic sunk in 1912. Among the Ville de Havre’s dead were the four young daughters of Chicago lawyer Horatio Spafford. He had sent the children and their mother, Anna Spafford, to vacation in France, where he would later join them after he finished some pressing business affairs at home.

When the crew finally succeeded in reviving the nearly half-drowned, unconscious woman, she cried out for her children – four girls, one just a baby, “torn violently from her arms” by the roiling sea. Once ashore, Anna Spafford sent her husband a brief but poignant telegraph: “Saved alone.”

As Horatio Spafford sailed across the Atlantic to reunite with his grieving wife, the ship’s captain called Spafford to his cabin. By the captain’s estimate, they were now sailing over the place where the Ville de Havre went down. Overcome with a torrent of emotion, Horatio Spafford returned to his cabin and composed a piece of poetry destined to become one of the church’s most beloved hymns, “It Is Well with My Soul.”

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt1m8a_bill-gloria-gaither-it-is-well-with-my-soul-feat-guy-penrod-and-david-phelps-live_music


PS: Rumitoid, I choose this verson especially for you.
This is for Armageddun, cant beleve, Rumitoid, bah... (show quote)


Thank you so much AuntiE, I never knew the story behind this song so again thank you. I am trying to see the keyboard and the screen with tears running down my face. That is truly a beautiful song and a beautiful rendition of it. My present church has gone modern in there music to draw in the youth. The music sucks and doesn't have near the worshipful message that the older hymns and bible passages set to music have. I miss them greatly those old hymns all had a story behind them of suffering, hurt, achieving, overcoming etc. but they were true stories of true faith again this was beautiful. Thanks again.

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Mar 24, 2014 11:48:11   #
bahmer
 
Worried for our children wrote:
First: Calm down, and please, don't yell at me, we go to far back for that kind of nonsense.

Second: You proposed an idea for a "topic". To which not one person that responded encouraged, not the ones you named, not even the one you pretty much dedicated your idea too. And to think I almost felt slighted.

Third: My intent was to inject humor, considering the people that you did name, I've gleened that these names have some years on me. It was not my intent to disgrace your idea or your post, if that were even possible.


Fourth: I know where your idea came from, however that does not negate the fact that this is still a political forum, and I still have the right to express myself, or did I miss the memo? I think perhaps you're still hungover from a different forum, and you're taking it out on me, and thats fine, I'll just chalk it up to a senior moment.

P.S. Thumbs up for your idea, and your original post.

Big thumbs down for your reply to me.


I didn't put my original thoughts out loud for this reply. Goodnight to you AuntiE.

Btw did you even notice what the link I provided was.... I couldn't hear all the words they were singing, so I looked up the "text", the words it was inspired by, and posted it so others may be able to read it if they wish.
First: Calm down, and please, don't yell at me, we... (show quote)


I don't know how old you are there whippersnapper but Auntie knows me and of me whichever way you want to look at it. I don't know that much about you but I have lost a son of 19 years and my wife of 63 years young and I do relate to this song very well thank you. I appreciate the kindness and thoughtfulness of AuntiE and others on this site that have written to me over time. As far as I am concerned AuntiE has my permission no make that my request to post these items and topics whenever she feels led to do so and I for one will cherish each and every one of them. If again you are worried for your children then maybe you should teach them and yourself to respect their elders.

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Mar 24, 2014 17:33:23   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
bahmer wrote:
I don't know how old you are there whippersnapper but Auntie knows me and of me whichever way you want to look at it. I don't know that much about you but I have lost a son of 19 years and my wife of 63 years young and I do relate to this song very well thank you. I appreciate the kindness and thoughtfulness of AuntiE and others on this site that have written to me over time. As far as I am concerned AuntiE has my permission no make that my request to post these items and topics whenever she feels led to do so and I for one will cherish each and every one of them. If again you are worried for your children then maybe you should teach them and yourself to respect their elders.
I don't know how old you are there whippersnapper ... (show quote)







I have known AuntiE for almost a year now. We've also exchanged many "private messages" here on OPP, and we also talk through email sometimes several times in the course of a week. She has pictures of my kids, knows their birthdays, as well as mine, she knows more than anyone else here about me and my life outside of OPP. She was one of the first, if not THE first person I connected with here.

I am very sorry for your loss "bahmer", but you don't have the market cornered on loss, and neither does anyone else. I'm sure many if not all on this site have experienced loss. I lost my mother at the young, and impressionable age of eleven. I lost my first wife in my early twenties, after only a few short years of marriage to a drunk driver, leaving me to be a single father to our (at the time) three year old daughter. I spent the next fifteen years teaching her right from wrong, including respect for elders. She is now in college, and a well rounded, well adjusted, young woman, or so I've been told with accompanying pats on the back.

Back to AuntiE's post. It appears that not only she, but also you, missed ** my attempt at humor, along with my appreciation for her post.** I explained already where the avenue of thought came from, regarding the names that she listed. My attempt was to make these and other folks laugh, by referencing the naturally occurring phenomenon that comes with aging, (hearing and/or vision loss). It was not my intent to be disrespectful in any way to any one group. I just figured these things to be common knowledge and used in humor quite often.

I know that she used the "chit chat" catagory for her post, however she titled the post "The History". If she didn't want anyone else involved, perhaps a better title would've been, "This is for my Christian friends only, all others need not apply", which would be uncharacteristically non-inclusive of her. A matter to which she defended recently regarding her religion and belief system to another less desirable member here on OPP. I must say her response to me here has given me pause for thought, considering one cannot have it both ways. I shutter to think that the other member may have indicated a "tell" as a whole.


By the way, I just turned forty-one this month, and I will not apologize for my post. It is not my fault that sometimes people misplace their sense of humor, or a joke goes over their head, or is misunderstood. If anything, an apology should be coming to me, for her public chastising of me, but I can already tell that she has dug in her heels, and it may be snowing in Hell before I see anything resembling such.

Thank you for your input "bahmer" I appreciate where you're coming from, maybe now you know a little more about me.

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Mar 24, 2014 17:38:09   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Worried for our children wrote:
I have known AuntiE for almost a year now. We've also exchanged many "private messages" here on OPP, and we also talk through email sometimes several times in the course of a week. She has pictures of my kids, knows their birthdays, as well as mine, she knows more than anyone else here about me and my life outside of OPP. She was one of the first, if not THE first person I connected with here.

I am very sorry for your loss "bahmer", but you don't have the market cornered on loss, and neither does anyone else. I'm sure many if not all on this site have experienced loss. I lost my mother at the young, and impressionable age of eleven. I lost my first wife in my early twenties, after only a few short years of marriage to a drunk driver, leaving me to be a single father to our (at the time) three year old daughter. I spent the next fifteen years teaching her right from wrong, including respect for elders. She is now in college, and a well rounded, well adjusted, young woman, or so I've been told with accompanying pats on the back.

Back to AuntiE's post. It appears that not only she, but also you, missed ** my attempt at humor, along with my appreciation for her post.** I explained already where the avenue of thought came from, regarding the names that she listed. My attempt was to make these and other folks laugh, by referencing the naturally occurring phenomenon that comes with aging, (hearing and/or vision loss). It was not my intent to be disrespectful in any way to any one group. I just figured these things to be common knowledge and used in humor quite often.

I know that she used the "chit chat" catagory for her post, however she titled the post "The History". If she didn't want anyone else involved, perhaps a better title would've been, "This is for my Christian friends only, all others need not apply", which would be uncharacteristically non-inclusive of her. A matter to which she defended recently regarding her religion and belief system to another less desirable member here on OPP. I must say her response to me here has given me pause for thought, considering one cannot have it both ways. I shutter to think that the other member may have indicated a "tell" as a whole.


By the way, I just turned forty-one this month, and I will not apologize for my post. It is not my fault that sometimes people misplace their sense of humor, or a joke goes over their head, or is misunderstood. If anything, an apology should be coming to me, for her public chastising of me, but I can already tell that she has dug in her heels, and it may be snowing in Hell before I see anything resembling such.

Thank you for your input "bahmer" I appreciate where you're coming from, maybe now you know a little more about me.
I have known AuntiE for almost a year now. We've a... (show quote)


Absolutely not true young Jedi. I have not "dug in my heels". I am on my third writing of my, soon public, message to you. Until I am completely comfortable with it, it will not appear. This is to important to not do correctly the first time.

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Mar 24, 2014 18:03:25   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
AuntiE wrote:
Absolutely not true young Jedi. I have not "dug in my heels". I am on my third writing of my, soon public, message to you. Until I am completely comfortable with it, it will not appear. This is to important to not do correctly the first time.





Duly noted my friend. If I don't respond immediately it's cause I have a wake to attend.

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Mar 24, 2014 18:26:18   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Duly noted my friend. If I don't respond immediately it's cause I have a wake to attend.


To my friend WFOC,

I most sincerely apologize for my excessively rude comment to your posting.

It was an exceedingly severe breech of civility toward one of my closest confederates and a friend. I could provide an attempt at justification; however, such would invalidate my apology.

I know your humor well and should have in no way shape or form attacked you in such a manner. It is especially egregious when one considers the forum subject matter. Quite obviously all was NOT well with my soul last evening.

With my most humble and heartfelt sincerity,

Auntie

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