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Feb 10, 2018 14:39:37   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
Educational Objectives

These ideas were a result of several encounters with professors and other highly educated individuals on the subject of what makes a well-rounded education. One advisor said he preferred that students majored in science first, before other possibilities, because the reverse later on is much harder (of course, he was a professor of Physics!)

Objective 1: A Well-Rounded Education, up through Bachelor's Degree
Objective 2: An Advanced Degree (if possible)
Objective 3: Continuing Formal Education
Objective 4: Home Study: realizing a love of learning, books and resources

Use any of the above objectives in any order to acquire knowledge of or sk**l sets in:

1. Writing (Essay, Article, Proposal, Story, Novel forms, Grammar, Vocabulary, Imagery, Illustrations, Research Sources, Citations)

2. Reading (100 or more Books to Master! Fast Reading Sk**ls, Recall)

3. Speaking sk**ls (The Five P's; Presentations, Polemic, Presence, Persuasion, Pr********n); A Must Learn!

4. Logic and Analytical Reasoning sk**ls (Syllogisms, Trade Studies)

5. Social sk**ls

6. Civics and Government

7. Economics

8. Cultural

9. Science (Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Cosmology, Information Sciences)

10. Mathematical (through Calculus)

11. US and World Literature

12. US and World (History, Geography, Topology, Resources)

13. Foreign Language (French, Spanish, German)

14. Philosophy

15. Vocational sk**ls (As a Profession or as a Backup or Hobby)

16. Selected Professional sk**ls

17. Psychology

18. Religion of Choice (Church Teachings)

19. Continued Learning Program (Digging Wider and Deeper!)

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Feb 10, 2018 15:05:44   #
badbob85037
 
I didn't hear anything about ending the teacher's union that allows worthless teachers from being fired. Nor did I hear anything on teaching lies on the Constitution starting in grammar school by the teachers and the text books used in schools written by UN supporting fluffer boys from San Francisco.

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Feb 10, 2018 15:21:52   #
PeterS
 
badbob85037 wrote:
I didn't hear anything about ending the teacher's union that allows worthless teachers from being fired. Nor did I hear anything on teaching lies on the Constitution starting in grammar school by the teachers and the text books used in schools written by UN supporting fluffer boys from San Francisco.


Well I assume he was looking for practical solutions and not chasing conservative mythology. You should check out Oklahoma where conservative ideas are implemented. There teachers have no unions, no pay raises, most work second jobs, and Texas has a recruiting office set up in OK City where they are hiring away the best teachers that haven't already quit. Hell, if you are a teachers aid and want insurance you will have to work a second job just to pay for it! How's that for conservative educational ideas in practice...

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Feb 10, 2018 15:24:47   #
PeterS
 
Manning345 wrote:
Educational Objectives

These ideas were a result of several encounters with professors and other highly educated individuals on the subject of what makes a well-rounded education. One advisor said he preferred that students majored in science first, before other possibilities, because the reverse later on is much harder (of course, he was a professor of Physics!)

Objective 1: A Well-Rounded Education, up through Bachelor's Degree
Objective 2: An Advanced Degree (if possible)
Objective 3: Continuing Formal Education
Objective 4: Home Study: realizing a love of learning, books and resources

Use any of the above objectives in any order to acquire knowledge of or sk**l sets in:

1. Writing (Essay, Article, Proposal, Story, Novel forms, Grammar, Vocabulary, Imagery, Illustrations, Research Sources, Citations)

2. Reading (100 or more Books to Master! Fast Reading Sk**ls, Recall)

3. Speaking sk**ls (The Five P's; Presentations, Polemic, Presence, Persuasion, Pr********n); A Must Learn!

4. Logic and Analytical Reasoning sk**ls (Syllogisms, Trade Studies)

5. Social sk**ls

6. Civics and Government

7. Economics

8. Cultural

9. Science (Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Cosmology, Information Sciences)

10. Mathematical (through Calculus)

11. US and World Literature

12. US and World (History, Geography, Topology, Resources)

13. Foreign Language (French, Spanish, German)

14. Philosophy

15. Vocational sk**ls (As a Profession or as a Backup or Hobby)

16. Selected Professional sk**ls

17. Psychology

18. Religion of Choice (Church Teachings)

19. Continued Learning Program (Digging Wider and Deeper!)
Educational Objectives br br These ideas were a r... (show quote)


Interesting proposals. Conservatives are so anti education though how so you think you could ever get them to positively participate and not destroy everything you want?

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Feb 10, 2018 15:37:28   #
son of witless
 
badbob85037 wrote:
I didn't hear anything about ending the teacher's union that allows worthless teachers from being fired. Nor did I hear anything on teaching lies on the Constitution starting in grammar school by the teachers and the text books used in schools written by UN supporting fluffer boys from San Francisco.


" UN supporting fluffer boys from San Francisco "

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Feb 10, 2018 15:52:59   #
maryjane
 
PeterS, please, do not put one offensive label on a group of many millions of people you cannot possibly know. Many, many of conservatives have advanced degrees and are life-long learners.

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Feb 10, 2018 18:21:44   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
PeterS wrote:
Interesting proposals. Conservatives are so anti education though how so you think you could ever get them to positively participate and not destroy everything you want?


I believe the facts are that conservatives are far more concerned with PROPER education than are Libs/Progressives. I noticed someone saying that teachers are confounding the Constitution, which is a great shame if true. Our kids need to understand the Constitution in its entirely and with well-verified background information, such as from The Federalist Papers. In my opinion, Conservatives are dead set against the avoidance of good education as is expounded by John Dewey, et al. Secular Humanism decries the teaching of realist civics and government to students.

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Feb 10, 2018 20:58:40   #
vernon
 
PeterS wrote:
Interesting proposals. Conservatives are so anti education though how so you think you could ever get them to positively participate and not destroy everything you want?



Anti education ! what a crock but we are anti teaching of lies and or the greatness of socialism .

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Feb 11, 2018 06:00:55   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
maryjane wrote:
PeterS, please, do not put one offensive label on a group of many millions of people you cannot possibly know. Many, many of conservatives have advanced degrees and are life-long learners.


You're wasting your time. Honest discourse is not his objective. He'd much rather throw ad hominems and non sequiturs around just to spoil an otherwise civilized interaction. Ignore him, that's what I do, most of the time, until I just can't stand it anymore. That's when he declares victory and crows his superiority to the masses. All he's looking for is to get a rise out of you.

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Feb 11, 2018 15:08:14   #
jeff smith
 
PeterS wrote:
Interesting proposals. Conservatives are so anti education though how so you think you could ever get them to positively participate and not destroy everything you want?


your very wrong. we are not about propagating one side or the other . a well balanced education is very important with views from both sides . not a education pushing a democratic / socialist point of view that is inmost schools today.

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Feb 11, 2018 15:13:35   #
jeff smith
 
Manning345 wrote:
Educational Objectives

These ideas were a result of several encounters with professors and other highly educated individuals on the subject of what makes a well-rounded education. One advisor said he preferred that students majored in science first, before other possibilities, because the reverse later on is much harder (of course, he was a professor of Physics!)

Objective 1: A Well-Rounded Education, up through Bachelor's Degree
Objective 2: An Advanced Degree (if possible)
Objective 3: Continuing Formal Education
Objective 4: Home Study: realizing a love of learning, books and resources

Use any of the above objectives in any order to acquire knowledge of or sk**l sets in:

1. Writing (Essay, Article, Proposal, Story, Novel forms, Grammar, Vocabulary, Imagery, Illustrations, Research Sources, Citations)

2. Reading (100 or more Books to Master! Fast Reading Sk**ls, Recall)

3. Speaking sk**ls (The Five P's; Presentations, Polemic, Presence, Persuasion, Pr********n); A Must Learn!

4. Logic and Analytical Reasoning sk**ls (Syllogisms, Trade Studies)

5. Social sk**ls

6. Civics and Government

7. Economics

8. Cultural

9. Science (Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Cosmology, Information Sciences)

10. Mathematical (through Calculus)

11. US and World Literature

12. US and World (History, Geography, Topology, Resources)

13. Foreign Language (French, Spanish, German)

14. Philosophy

15. Vocational sk**ls (As a Profession or as a Backup or Hobby)

16. Selected Professional sk**ls

17. Psychology

18. Religion of Choice (Church Teachings)

19. Continued Learning Program (Digging Wider and Deeper!)
Educational Objectives br br These ideas were a r... (show quote)


odd, where are all the working people? seems that you think that we should all become brainiacks. are you planning on having robots doing the manual labor? then what do you propose to do with all of the people who like to WORK for a living? raise taxes to support all the people out of work?

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Feb 11, 2018 20:29:46   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
PeterS wrote:
Well I assume he was looking for practical solutions and not chasing conservative mythology. You should check out Oklahoma where conservative ideas are implemented. There teachers have no unions, no pay raises, most work second jobs, and Texas has a recruiting office set up in OK City where they are hiring away the best teachers that haven't already quit. Hell, if you are a teachers aid and want insurance you will have to work a second job just to pay for it! How's that for conservative educational ideas in practice...
Well I assume he was looking for practical solutio... (show quote)


peters: The mythology you talk of is in the void between you're ears!!!!!! Destroy the Dept. of Education and give teaching and learning sk**ls back to the individual States!!! MAGA

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Feb 11, 2018 20:32:16   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
PeterS wrote:
Interesting proposals. Conservatives are so anti education though how so you think you could ever get them to positively participate and not destroy everything you want?


peters: You are so inverted and rely on deflection to hide the fact liberalism has corrupted the Three Rs!....A t***h and fact you continue to trip over!!!!

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Feb 11, 2018 20:39:54   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
PeterS wrote:
Well I assume he was looking for practical solutions and not chasing conservative mythology. You should check out Oklahoma where conservative ideas are implemented. There teachers have no unions, no pay raises, most work second jobs, and Texas has a recruiting office set up in OK City where they are hiring away the best teachers that haven't already quit. Hell, if you are a teachers aid and want insurance you will have to work a second job just to pay for it! How's that for conservative educational ideas in practice...
Well I assume he was looking for practical solutio... (show quote)


That's curious. And they still have teachers? Well, I never! How do they get them to stick around, blackmail? Surely if it's as bad as you say, they would all be working in nice, cushy unionized jobs in places like California or New York. Of course, working in one of those schools would probably qualify them for combat pay - the risks are about the same...

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Feb 13, 2018 00:38:57   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
jeff smith wrote:
odd, where are all the working people? seems that you think that we should all become brainiacks. are you planning on having robots doing the manual labor? then what do you propose to do with all of the people who like to WORK for a living? raise taxes to support all the people out of work?


That is why I mentioned vocational training leading to decent jobs. Also why I mentioned Home Study, which anyone can use to their benefit. I said nothing about everyone becoming brainiaks, that is not on. But I do believe in striving for a better understanding of the world around us by hook or crook.

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