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Mar 21, 2014 13:33:47   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Patty wrote:
It isn't so much that facts scare liberals as it is that they seem to confuse you. Im bored with the trolls here. Maybe you can get jonnie to come back and argue with you.


Maybe.

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Mar 21, 2014 18:21:16   #
LAwrence
 
I believe that anyone who for any reason comes under American juristiction is entitled to the protection of the US constitution and if accused of any crime should be tried in a proper court of law and either convicted or released. If these poor soules can be handled this way, one day they may turn on innocent civilians, US citizens and declare them terrorists and they will lose all protection under the constitution. God help us then.

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Mar 22, 2014 15:01:50   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
LAwrence wrote:
I believe that anyone who for any reason comes under American juristiction is entitled to the protection of the US constitution and if accused of any crime should be tried in a proper court of law and either convicted or released. If these poor soules can be handled this way, one day they may turn on innocent civilians, US citizens and declare them terrorists and they will lose all protection under the constitution. God help us then.


This would be a great gift to terrorists - in order to try them in open court and allow them to face their accusers you'd provide great opportunity for them to learn ways and means of intelligence gathering and provide the ability to deter any informants because of the threats to them and everyone they care about. For some reason, many of my fellow Americans seem to favor collective suicide.

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Mar 22, 2014 15:05:31   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Patty wrote:
I agree why would we close our eyes to this type of government. Washington has such a large number of torture deaths from Abu Ghraib to Gitmo to the secret CIA torture centers to endless drone attacks on kids‘ soccer games, weddings, funerals, medical clinics, schools, farm houses and aid workers. The evidence is completely clear that Washington has tortured a number of individuals to death and into false confessions and blown to pieces thousands of innocents known as “collateral damage.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-obama-bragged-good-k*****g-people-book-article-1.1506211


So, to you we have people in our government who do these terrible nasty things because they are terrible nasty people. To you, we should allow them to get together an organize - plan - and execute all the 9/11's they want - just as long as they do it in a foreign land - and we should do nothing but play defense and maybe put them in jail after they do their stuff and get caught and convicted .
We have no damn business being there.
I agree why would we close our eyes to this type o... (show quote)

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Mar 22, 2014 15:45:00   #
Patty
 
A typical example today is that Russia is doing military exercises on their western border. Washington feels that this is their business and that Russia shold have cleared it with them first. Did Washington ask Russia when they did the GridX exercises last fall in sector 3? Of course not it was none of Russia's business. Washingtons arrogance thinking that the whole world needs to clear every move with them has grown old to the rest of the planet.

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Mar 22, 2014 16:43:15   #
LAwrence
 
Dave wrote:
This would be a great gift to terrorists - in order to try them in open court and allow them to face their accusers you'd provide great opportunity for them to learn ways and means of intelligence gathering and provide the ability to deter any informants because of the threats to them and everyone they care about. For some reason, many of my fellow Americans seem to favor collective suicide.


SIR; what are you afraid of? In a court of law the t***h has a chance to come out. Are you afraid of the t***h?

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Mar 22, 2014 17:25:46   #
Comment Loc: California
 
LAwrence wrote:
SIR; what are you afraid of? In a court of law the t***h has a chance to come out. Are you afraid of the t***h?


Why should the tax payers pay for defense attorneys and investigations. It would cost 100s of millions of dollars. Only American citizens are entitled to Constitutional protection. Aliens are not. In WW11 an military combatant in civilian cloths could be shot on the spot as a spy. Geneva Convention. Pirates can be executed at sea. Navy Seals took out 3 last year. Executed the bastards!!! :lol: :lol: Obumma brought 11 to New York to be tried. It will cost the tax payers 100s of millions of dollars to defend them. If they are guilty 100s of millions more to prison them. If set free, will the Navy take them back to Somalia? You and Obumma are some crazies. You love giving American justice to aliens and spending other peoples money to defend them. I would have shot them dead on the spot.

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Mar 22, 2014 18:16:47   #
LAwrence
 
Billhuggins wrote:
Why should the tax payers pay for defense attorneys and investigations. It would cost 100s of millions of dollars. Only American citizens are entitled to Constitutional protection. Aliens are not. In WW11 an military combatant in civilian cloths could be shot on the spot as a spy. Geneva Convention. Pirates can be executed at sea. Navy Seals took out 3 last year. Executed the bastards!!! :lol: :lol: Obumma brought 11 to New York to be tried. It will cost the tax payers 100s of millions of dollars to defend them. If they are guilty 100s of millions more to prison them. If set free, will the Navy take them back to Somalia? You and Obumma are some crazies. You love giving American justice to aliens and spending other peoples money to defend them. I would have shot them dead on the spot.
Why should the tax payers pay for defense attorney... (show quote)


I see; T***h is not on your agenda.

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Mar 22, 2014 19:43:43   #
Comment Loc: California
 
LAwrence wrote:
I see; T***h is not on your agenda.


That's an absolutely stupid statement. Do you actually think that t***h is only obtained in a court room under Maranda Rights and our constitution. You as really stupid.

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Mar 23, 2014 06:52:38   #
Patty
 
When the quota system that based success on how many successful prosecutions instead of finding out what was true came into play they found an endless list of framed people ready to lie in court for them and there is no such thing as a far trial.
Do you guys know that every "terrorist act" here since 911 was set up by the government to entrap these young gullible dupes into thinking they were really using an active bomb? So without the gov provoking their own necessity there would have been 0 terrorist attempts.
Billhuggins wrote:
That's an absolutely stupid statement. Do you actually think that t***h is only obtained in a court room under Maranda Rights and our constitution. You as really stupid.

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Mar 24, 2014 11:57:22   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
LAwrence wrote:
SIR; what are you afraid of? In a court of law the t***h has a chance to come out. Are you afraid of the t***h?


Did you read what I wrote, or are you afraid to do that and address the issues I raised? Trite comments might make you feel good, but in the real world real people must face real situations.

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