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Mar 17, 2014 16:16:48   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
Stated at minimum twenty-seven times, "If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance." This would appear to an example of "a liar".


That is not the definition he asked for: I have provided that below, not that my courtesy will be appreciated.

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Mar 17, 2014 16:17:58   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
[quote=BoJester]Glaucon, great post and really shines the light of t***h on the slimy h**ers.

Reading some of the replies confirm your assertions of your post.

The t***h really bothers the h**ers, the baggers, and the usual assortment of conservative i***ts.











Glaucon wrote:
I meet you all the time. You h**e Obama. You h**e gay people. You h**e black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you h**e em all. You h**e being called r****t. You h**e being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you h**e gay people we wouldn't call you bigots.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 17, 2014 16:35:57   #
Liberty Tree
 
banjojack wrote:
Don't ever say I am not accommodating; you asked for a definition of lye, and here it is: Lye is a chemical compound (sodium hydroxide) which is used in the curing and pr********n of certain foods, including hominy, ramen noodles, and pretzels. It is also used for cleaning purposes, i.e. clogged drains. Historically it was obtained from the leaching of anything high in potassium carbonate. I will not go into the requisite chemical equations here, I don't have my keyboard set up for it. I have no idea what this has to do with a discussion of Obama's lack of probity. You're welcome.
Don't ever say I am not accommodating; you asked f... (show quote)


Great response to one who is always downing others for a little typo mistake.

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Mar 17, 2014 16:42:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Great response to one who is always downing others for a little typo mistake.


Typo? I thought it was a chemistry question. I've no idea how that ties in with Obama's mendacity, but he must have some sort of reasoning.

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Mar 17, 2014 17:06:08   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Glaucon wrote:
You say you can't reason with a progressive.



Glaucon-not all of us h**e Obama the man, but many of us despise what he stands for which is the destruction of America as we once knew it. I don't know if it is by design or by ignorance but this president has done more to divide this country along both racial lines and from an economic standpoint than any president preceding him. Your idol, flaunts the Constitution and acts more like a self appointed emperor than and elected president. The American people are beginning to wake up to the fact that this man does not possess one iota of integrity and his word is worthless. As a result, our foreign enemies no longer fear us and our allies doubt if we have the resolve to stand with them in time of need. This man, who is an eloquent speaker, was thrust into a job which is beyond his capability to handle.. He is not qualified to be our president and since he will not take any advice except from his left wing radical friends he will continue to make decisions which are driving this country into poverty and ultimate total bankruptcy. To most of us, this country is a lot more important than the individual who happens to be in the oval office at any given time. It has taken a long time but the Polls are beginning to show that he cannot continue to blatantly lie to the American people. I am beginning to doubt whether his academic credentials are indeed valid or if those certificates
were manufactured in a fashion similar to his birth certificate. How you liberals can buy into this man's unexplained , shady past is beyond belief and shows that ideology can often override common sense. So, Glaucon, look into the mirror and re-read your own post. Good Luck America !!!

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Mar 17, 2014 17:17:17   #
fred37ify
 
Agree Liberty - it's like trying to talk to a turnip !

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Mar 17, 2014 17:29:01   #
Glaucon
 
AuntiE wrote:
Stated at minimum twenty-seven times, "If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance." This would appear to an example of "a liar".



I am responding to you because I think you are reasonably open minded so I am responding to you in a respectful manner and would be interested in your thoughts about my response:

Repetition is probably the most effective way to sell ideas and affect behavior. The more repetitions, the more likely someone is to consider the idea you are pushing and behave accordingly. Politicians, parents, propagandists, psychotherapists, advertisers, and educators understand the power of repetition and use it constantly for better or worse.
How many times have you heard Obama is a liar? There are those who will believe without proof that he lied about keeping your health insurance and there are those also without proof will believe he did not. It is commonly agreed that the statement about health care turned out to be untrue, but there is absolutely no proof that he knew it was false. Some extremists push this issue even further and refer to Obama as ” a liar who lies all the time.” Rational, reasonably unbiased people would reject that assertion as biased responding just as they would the assertion that Obama has never made any statement as fact he knew to be untrue. Do you agree?

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Mar 17, 2014 17:38:26   #
Liberty Tree
 
Ricko wrote:
Glaucon-not all of us h**e Obama the man, but many of us despise what he stands for which is the destruction of America as we once knew it. I don't know if it is by design or by ignorance but this president has done more to divide this country along both racial lines and from an economic standpoint than any president preceding him. Your idol, flaunts the Constitution and acts more like a self appointed emperor than and elected president. The American people are beginning to wake up to the fact that this man does not possess one iota of integrity and his word is worthless. As a result, our foreign enemies no longer fear us and our allies doubt if we have the resolve to stand with them in time of need. This man, who is an eloquent speaker, was thrust into a job which is beyond his capability to handle.. He is not qualified to be our president and since he will not take any advice except from his left wing radical friends he will continue to make decisions which are driving this country into poverty and ultimate total bankruptcy. To most of us, this country is a lot more important than the individual who happens to be in the oval office at any given time. It has taken a long time but the Polls are beginning to show that he cannot continue to blatantly lie to the American people. I am beginning to doubt whether his academic credentials are indeed valid or if those certificates
were manufactured in a fashion similar to his birth certificate. How you liberals can buy into this man's unexplained , shady past is beyond belief and shows that ideology can often override common sense. So, Glaucon, look into the mirror and re-read your own post. Good Luck America !!!
Glaucon-not all of us h**e Obama the man, but many... (show quote)


Good post. Two thumbs up!!

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Mar 17, 2014 17:52:41   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
Glaucon wrote:
I am responding to you because I think you are reasonably open minded so I am responding to you in a respectful manner and would be interested in your thoughts about my response:

Repetition is probably the most effective way to sell ideas and affect behavior. The more repetitions, the more likely someone is to consider the idea you are pushing and behave accordingly. Politicians, parents, propagandists, psychotherapists, advertisers, and educators understand the power of repetition and use it constantly for better or worse.
How many times have you heard Obama is a liar? There are those who will believe without proof that he lied about keeping your health insurance and there are those also without proof will believe he did not. It is commonly agreed that the statement about health care turned out to be untrue, but there is absolutely no proof that he knew it was false. Some extremists push this issue even further and refer to Obama as ” a liar who lies all the time.” Rational, reasonably unbiased people would reject that assertion as biased responding just as they would the assertion that Obama has never made any statement as fact he knew to be untrue. Do you agree?
I am responding to you because I think you are rea... (show quote)


Glaucon, You keep asking for some proof of his lies. AuntiE gave you just a couple of them. Now, I will give you 50 of his lies, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a l********e e******n in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even spea k the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy vision'.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present V**es Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO V**ES.

17.) Oops, I Misv**ed - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misv**e.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote

A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or v**ed for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU v**ed against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution v**e on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected terrorists in the USA.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All V**es To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the v**e, confuse the v**ers, force a public v**e, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to v**e against it AND you have v**ed to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a f**g pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a Cuban F**g with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office which you allow to be displayed. You v**ed against making english the official language of the United States. You v**ed to give i*****l a***ns social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security system for Americans legally paying into it.

49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About P***e In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

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Mar 17, 2014 17:53:34   #
Glaucon
 
Ricko wrote:
Glaucon-not all of us h**e Obama the man, but many of us despise what he stands for which is the destruction of America as we once knew it. I don't know if it is by design or by ignorance but this president has done more to divide this country along both racial lines and from an economic standpoint than any president preceding him. Your idol, flaunts the Constitution and acts more like a self appointed emperor than and elected president. The American people are beginning to wake up to the fact that this man does not possess one iota of integrity and his word is worthless. As a result, our foreign enemies no longer fear us and our allies doubt if we have the resolve to stand with them in time of need. This man, who is an eloquent speaker, was thrust into a job which is beyond his capability to handle.. He is not qualified to be our president and since he will not take any advice except from his left wing radical friends he will continue to make decisions which are driving this country into poverty and ultimate total bankruptcy. To most of us, this country is a lot more important than the individual who happens to be in the oval office at any given time. It has taken a long time but the Polls are beginning to show that he cannot continue to blatantly lie to the American people. I am beginning to doubt whether his academic credentials are indeed valid or if those certificates
were manufactured in a fashion similar to his birth certificate. How you liberals can buy into this man's unexplained , shady past is beyond belief and shows that ideology can often override common sense. So, Glaucon, look into the mirror and re-read your own post. Good Luck America !!!
Glaucon-not all of us h**e Obama the man, but many... (show quote)



If you put the words, In my opinion, I think, It seems to me etc. before each of these statement rather than asserting them as facts, I would be able to consider your opinions as such. However, the issues below are your you opinions without rationale or evidence and some are merely factually inaccurate. Some are off the chart unreality. I am trying to take you seriously because I don’t think you have done booger jokes, f**e yawns name calling and such and seem to be serious.

Do you seriously believe these things?

many of us despise what he stands for which is the destruction of America
this president has done more to divide this country along both racial lines and from an economic standpoint than any president preceding him.
Your idol?
flaunts the Constitution and acts more like a self appointed emperor than and elected president.
this man does not possess one iota of integrity and his word is worthless.
our foreign enemies no longer fear us and our allies doubt if we have the resolve to stand with them in time of need.
was thrust into a job which is beyond his capability to handle..
He is not qualified to be our president and since he will not take any advice except from his left wing radical friends he will continue to make decisions which are driving this country into poverty and ultimate total bankruptcy.
that he cannot continue to blatantly lie to the American people
I am beginning to doubt whether his academic credentials are indeed valid or if those certificates
How you liberals can buy into this man's unexplained

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Mar 17, 2014 17:59:42   #
Blacksheep
 
banjojack wrote:
Don't ever say I am not accommodating; you asked for a definition of lye, and here it is: Lye is a chemical compound (sodium hydroxide) which is used in the curing and pr********n of certain foods, including hominy, ramen noodles, and pretzels. It is also used for cleaning purposes, i.e. clogged drains. Historically it was obtained from the leaching of anything high in potassium carbonate. I will not go into the requisite chemical equations here, I don't have my keyboard set up for it. I have no idea what this has to do with a discussion of Obama's lack of probity. You're welcome.
Don't ever say I am not accommodating; you asked f... (show quote)



On (sic) would have to define lye, and by golly, YOU DID IT! My hat is off to you even tho I never wear the damn thing anyway.
:-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 17, 2014 17:59:49   #
Glaucon
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
Glaucon, You keep asking for some proof of his lies. AuntiE gave you just a couple of them. Now, I will give you 50 of his lies, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a l********e e******n in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even spea k the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy vision'.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present V**es Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO V**ES.

17.) Oops, I Misv**ed - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misv**e.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote

A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or v**ed for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU v**ed against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution v**e on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected terrorists in the USA.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All V**es To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the v**e, confuse the v**ers, force a public v**e, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to v**e against it AND you have v**ed to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a f**g pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a Cuban F**g with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office which you allow to be displayed. You v**ed against making english the official language of the United States. You v**ed to give i*****l a***ns social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security system for Americans legally paying into it.

49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About P***e In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
Glaucon, You keep asking for some proof of his lie... (show quote)


You consider these to be lies? Would you change your mind if I produced proof that each and every one of these is bogus? Would you change your mind and apologize if I chose one randomly and proved it was wrong?

See my recent response to AntiE.

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Mar 17, 2014 18:08:49   #
Glaucon
 
buddy42 wrote:
Glaucon, I have read many of your previous posts and disagree with most of them, especially this one ( I also do not agree on some of the conservative posts). I'm not as well educated as you and several of the other members on this site, so I'm not real great on stating my opinion in my own words. I read this on another site http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/republican/Manual.htm
and it mostly confirms my opinion of liberals . This is only part of the article because I didn't want to post a big amount of data.

The “Intellectuals”:
The “Intellectuals” are an interesting group of people. They’re typically your academics, people who have very strong academic accomplishments, or believe that they do (these can be interchanged). They often think of themselves as smart people, and associate with like-minded “smart people.” They’re especially found in Ivy League colleges, though this phenomenon easily exists in non-Ivy League schools as well. It extends beyond just the college and university scene, however; other education institutions have similar groups, and the media is full of such people.

These people are usually fairly responsible, fairly intelligent, and are going in a good direction in life- at least academically. However, all of them fall victim to one trap: they believe that everyone else is just as responsible and intelligent as them. Thus, they fall into an ideological world view, which believes that everything can be perfect, and that cases of “human nature” such as greed simply do not exist. (This explains why far left liberals supported c*******m- they thought people would be happy with “to each according to their need”…clearly, that did not work)

These people believe that things like a******n should be legal, because people will be responsible with it, and not take advantage of it. These people believe that drugs should be legalized, for the same reasons. These people believe that children should be exposed to sex and violence (including things that can be seen as the promotion of them), because children would be responsible with such matters. These people do not think things on television and mass media should be regulated, thinking that all people are responsible enough to handle indecent material. They believe all criminals can be “rehabilitated” and become responsible like them, and thus they oppose things like the death penalty. The list goes on and on, but the key thing you must know about these people: they’re frequently not in touch with reality itself- they’re like bookworms. They don’t realize the problems in the world for what they really are, but think they do.

Therefore, they fall victim to an ideological world view which simply does not work in reality: liberalism.

Everything these intellectuals do now has been done before, in essence: Karl Marx once presented an ideological l*****t world view. It didn’t work, but it sure sounded great when he presented his ideology. What looks good on paper may not look good in reality, and that is one thing the “intellectual left” does not understand.

These people also fundamentally believe they are right, and will refuse to argue with anyone who they think is of “less merit” than them; they’re very elitist to a sense, and therefore blindly hold to their ideology despite any arguments thrown at them. It is Ivy League arrogance, journalistic elitism, and wh**ever else you can name, at its finest.
Glaucon, I have read many of your previous posts a... (show quote)


You have obviously made up your mind and will not open it for anything. You don't seem to have opinions; you have immutable t***hs and unquestionable facts. I have found that it is not productive to argue or even have discussions with prophets, especially if they are only prophets in their own minds. Read your response and ask yourself if anyone would attempt to reason, debate or discuss anything with someone who would write such biased stuff. You won't read it and you definitely won't ask yourself anything.

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Mar 17, 2014 18:15:47   #
Glaucon
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Great response to one who is always downing others for a little typo mistake.


banjo,

I see you are no longer on the roof.

You kept the bath water and threw out the baby, again.

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Mar 17, 2014 18:17:25   #
Glaucon
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Good post. Two thumbs up!!


Two nuts from the same tree.

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