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Jan 6, 2018 14:07:00   #
thinksense
 
Manning345 wrote:
There are those of us that love a good conspiracy theory when it is at least partially true to give it a sense of realism (till it is exposed for what it is), but we do not love conspiracy theories that make up things out of nothing but rampant speculation and putting two and two together getting 5 every time. Never Trumpers do this day in and day out, as do Progressives, roiling about in their h**e of Trump. Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings. Calling something for what it is, is plainly the honest way.
There are those of us that love a good conspiracy ... (show quote)


Manning,

BTW I like your avatar. Great psychology in one simple picture.


You say, “Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings. Calling something for what it is, is plainly the honest way.”

You are absolutely right. And I am sure that if our Government ever re-establishes it’s belief in these ideas and virtues that we will see our citizens will re-establish their faith in their Government.

Wouldn’t that be a happy day. Unfortunately I don’t think that anyone of us will live that long.

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Jan 6, 2018 15:32:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
thinksense wrote:
Manning,

BTW I like your avatar. Great psychology in one simple picture.


You say, “Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings. Calling something for what it is, is plainly the honest way.”

You are absolutely right. And I am sure that if our Government ever re-establishes it’s belief in these ideas and virtues that we will see our citizens will re-establish their faith in their Government.

Wouldn’t that be a happy day. Unfortunately I don’t think that anyone of us will live that long.
Manning, br br BTW I like your avatar. Great psyc... (show quote)


Not sure how long we have to wait;
but the good guys win in the end.
A sneak preview?
Greg H****r - Weekly News Wrap-Up 1.5.18
https://youtu.be/wxDjZlTSuK4

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Jan 6, 2018 16:40:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
11r20 wrote:
There is a lot everyone can do to throw a monkey wrench
into the global elites/NWO plans.


This might be a really big adjustable wrench?
Behind the scenes:
Greg H****r - Weekly News Wrap-Up 1.5.18
https://youtu.be/wxDjZlTSuK4

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Jan 7, 2018 11:19:48   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
thinksense wrote:
Manning,

BTW I like your avatar. Great psychology in one simple picture.


You say, “Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings. Calling something for what it is, is plainly the honest way.”

You are absolutely right. And I am sure that if our Government ever re-establishes it’s belief in these ideas and virtues that we will see our citizens will re-establish their faith in their Government.

Wouldn’t that be a happy day. Unfortunately I don’t think that anyone of us will live that long.
Manning, br br BTW I like your avatar. Great psyc... (show quote)


You elected to disregard the previous sentence which identified who I was referring to. It read: Never Trumpers do this day in and day out, as do Progressives, roiling about in their h**e of Trump. Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings. Calling something for what it is, is plainly the honest way.

That is the correct context. I was not referring to the government, but to NT's and Progs, although considering the Obama administration, the statement would indeed apply.

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Jan 7, 2018 11:26:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Manning345 wrote:
You elected to disregard the previous sentence which identified who I was referring to. It read: Never Trumpers do this day in and day out, as do Progressives, roiling about in their h**e of Trump. Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings. Calling something for what it is, is plainly the honest way.

That is the correct context. I was not referring to the government, but to NT's and Progs, although considering the Obama administration, the statement would indeed apply.
You elected to disregard the previous sentence whi... (show quote)


Good of you to take the time to clarify that, Manning.

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Jan 7, 2018 13:13:43   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Good of you to take the time to clarify that, Manning.


Yes, I do not like my posts to be besmirched by cherry picking.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:33:19   #
thinksense
 
Manning345 wrote:
You elected to disregard the previous sentence which identified who I was referring to. It read: Never Trumpers do this day in and day out, as do Progressives, roiling about in their h**e of Trump. Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings. Calling something for what it is, is plainly the honest way.

That is the correct context. I was not referring to the government, but to NT's and Progs, although considering the Obama administration, the statement would indeed apply.
You elected to disregard the previous sentence whi... (show quote)


I, however was referring to the Government. Especially the way it has been run for the last 100+ years.

And the "Never Trumpers do this day in and day out, as do Progressives, roiling about in their h**e of Trump. Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings." is the result of the Governments's behavior. (Just little john and betty doing what their govt has taught them by the Goverments own actions.)

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Jan 7, 2018 16:17:28   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
thinksense wrote:
I, however was referring to the Government. Especially the way it has been run for the last 100+ years.

And the "Never Trumpers do this day in and day out, as do Progressives, roiling about in their h**e of Trump. Somewhere along the line they missed the idea of T***hfulness, Evidence, Innocent till proven guilty, and even the galaxy of Virtues, such as Integrity, and Honesty in their daily dealings." is the result of the Governments's behavior. (Just little john and betty doing what their govt has taught them by the Goverments own actions.)
I, however was referring to the Government. Especi... (show quote)


You have me there! I haven't been around for 100+ years to be able to say that with any confidence at all. Oh! But you have! Marvelous! Then, too, there must have been Liberal/Progressive papers or pamphlets then, so you must have picked up the L/P meme from them.

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Jan 7, 2018 18:10:08   #
thinksense
 
Manning345 wrote:
You have me there! I haven't been around for 100+ years to be able to say that with any confidence at all. Oh! But you have! Marvelous! Then, too, there must have been Liberal/Progressive papers or pamphlets then, so you must have picked up the L/P meme from them.


You know, over time I have had people misunderstand, possibly on purpose, my position. I am a pure libertarian. I long for the day when everyone will live by the motto “MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS ! "

What you people call “progressives”, “liberals”, “left wingers”, I think of as very low intellect, hypnotized suckers and opportunists too dumb to look to the future.

What I think of right wingers is that they are of moderate to fairly high intellect, hypnotized suckers and opportunists willing to sell out the hopes and dreams and usefulness of their future generations .

There is no middle grown as long as they can not or refuse to see the world as it really is.

For example how can they believe that their v**e is not a con game. Right in front of your nose! Come on guys. The people who control things are going to give you an honest v**e??? And lose their control over you??? Where did you park your brain?

Oh, and understand there are no left wingers, right wingers or middle grounders in Govt. There are only self interested opportunists all, no matter what positions, workers or bosses, they hold.


Manning is cute...
Obviously I was not on this planet 150 years ago and have to base my overall view on what I was taught about our history in school, (and it was rated a very good school back in those days), as well as what I have picked up in libraries, museums, from my military, and college training, years in practice, and the sales businesses I ran before.

Plus I had the benefit of having lived a short time in N**i Germany, and having met with and communicated with relatives and other people who were trapped there during the war and again in the Eastern Zone, after the war. I learned of the evils of the people who ran that war, the horrors of my 120 lb stepmother who became an 85 lb "survivor", in less than a month and 8 year old step daughter who developed rickets, having to eat weeds cooked with the cleaned, scraped leather of a pair of old boots, cooked over and over again till the leather was gone, to try to survive after the war was “over”, but no food was available because of our incendiary blanket bombing destroying the means of food production and t***sportation along with the millions of innocent civilians directly k**led. Most of these people I am sure were just like you and your family. I learned about how evil certain animal people, who h**e and fear real humans could be..I have come upon the massive lies and hidden t***hs of modern “health care” and wondered at how such distortions have been developed to create the drug and disease problems we have today.





Btw, Mann, If you really had the clearances to talk to Francis Powers in a CIA cafeteria, and he had the clearances that allowed him to talk and maybe even tell the t***h in a casual atmosphere, then you must know what I am talking about.



So I’ve studied the history as presented and come to certain conclusions.

Our countries problems have been deliberately caused to forward an EVIL agenda.

There has been a conspiracy, (there’s that word again) that goes back, almost surely before 150 years ago, in which certain shrewd, amoral people, working together and boosting each other up the ladder have become unbelievably wealthy, and literally bought, bribed, blackmailed, terrorized those they needed to control most of the governments of the world. And they are working to establish a world where they can Have anything they want, do anything they want, and get away with it, no matter how wrong, without being in jeopardy except from a jealous fellow traveler.

And the rest of the populace will either be k**led off or manufactured into passive s***es, to serve them.

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Jan 7, 2018 20:48:04   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
thinksense wrote:
You know, over time I have had people misunderstand, possibly on purpose, my position. I am a pure libertarian. I long for the day when everyone will live by the motto “MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS ! "

What you people call “progressives”, “liberals”, “left wingers”, I think of as very low intellect, hypnotized suckers and opportunists too dumb to look to the future.

What I think of right wingers is that they are of moderate to fairly high intellect, hypnotized suckers and opportunists willing to sell out the hopes and dreams and usefulness of their future generations .

There is no middle grown as long as they can not or refuse to see the world as it really is.

For example how can they believe that their v**e is not a con game. Right in front of your nose! Come on guys. The people who control things are going to give you an honest v**e??? And lose their control over you??? Where did you park your brain?

Oh, and understand there are no left wingers, right wingers or middle grounders in Govt. There are only self interested opportunists all, no matter what positions, workers or bosses, they hold.


Manning is cute...
Obviously I was not on this planet 150 years ago and have to base my overall view on what I was taught about our history in school, (and it was rated a very good school back in those days), as well as what I have picked up in libraries, museums, from my military, and college training, years in practice, and the sales businesses I ran before.

Plus I had the benefit of having lived a short time in N**i Germany, and having met with and communicated with relatives and other people who were trapped there during the war and again in the Eastern Zone, after the war. I learned of the evils of the people who ran that war, the horrors of my 120 lb stepmother who became an 85 lb "survivor", in less than a month and 8 year old step daughter who developed rickets, having to eat weeds cooked with the cleaned, scraped leather of a pair of old boots, cooked over and over again till the leather was gone, to try to survive after the war was “over”, but no food was available because of our incendiary blanket bombing destroying the means of food production and t***sportation along with the millions of innocent civilians directly k**led. Most of these people I am sure were just like you and your family. I learned about how evil certain animal people, who h**e and fear real humans could be..I have come upon the massive lies and hidden t***hs of modern “health care” and wondered at how such distortions have been developed to create the drug and disease problems we have today.





Btw, Mann, If you really had the clearances to talk to Francis Powers in a CIA cafeteria, and he had the clearances that allowed him to talk and maybe even tell the t***h in a casual atmosphere, then you must know what I am talking about.



So I’ve studied the history as presented and come to certain conclusions.

Our countries problems have been deliberately caused to forward an EVIL agenda.

There has been a conspiracy, (there’s that word again) that goes back, almost surely before 150 years ago, in which certain shrewd, amoral people, working together and boosting each other up the ladder have become unbelievably wealthy, and literally bought, bribed, blackmailed, terrorized those they needed to control most of the governments of the world. And they are working to establish a world where they can Have anything they want, do anything they want, and get away with it, no matter how wrong, without being in jeopardy except from a jealous fellow traveler.

And the rest of the populace will either be k**led off or manufactured into passive s***es, to serve them.
You know, over time I have had people misunderstan... (show quote)


Well covered think sense.
I am wondering where you and Manning disagree.

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Jan 7, 2018 21:24:49   #
thinksense
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Well covered think sense.
I am wondering where you and Manning disagree.


I'm not sure we do disagree. More a matter of me not making myself clear enough, or maybe I offend by sounding arrogant.

Or maybe he is a CIA plant on the forum, looking for guys who don't kow tow to the party line and I'll wake up tomorrow in Guantanamo with masked men pouring water on a rag over my face.

But that wouldn't happen because at my age any torture would probably k**l me within seconds, and I don't know any secrets they might want to know anyway. Just an old crock waging a losing war with human stupidity. And that is pretty stupid in itself. The really genetically stupid could never change, and the clinically stupid don't want to change. And that makes me hopelessly stupid; though perennialy hopeful.

Huh, wha he sa???

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Jan 7, 2018 21:58:07   #
Ricktloml
 
thinksense wrote:
I'm not sure we do disagree. More a matter of me not making myself clear enough, or maybe I offend by sounding arrogant.

Or maybe he is a CIA plant on the forum, looking for guys who don't kow tow to the party line and I'll wake up tomorrow in Guantanamo with masked men pouring water on a rag over my face.

But that wouldn't happen because at my age any torture would probably k**l me within seconds, and I don't know any secrets they might want to know anyway. Just an old crock waging a losing war with human stupidity. And that is pretty stupid in itself. The really genetically stupid could never change, and the clinically stupid don't want to change. And that makes me hopelessly stupid; though perennialy hopeful.

Huh, wha he sa???
I'm not sure we do disagree. More a matter of me n... (show quote)


Wow, good points. But for Christians this 'conspiracy' has been going on for a lot longer than 150 years, maybe it's that length of time here in the U.S., but this has ALL been foretold

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Jan 7, 2018 22:12:14   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Wow, good points. But for Christians this 'conspiracy' has been going on for a lot longer than 150 years, maybe it's that length of time here in the U.S., but this has ALL been foretold


"Wow, good points. But for Christians this 'conspiracy' has been going on for a lot longer than 150 years, maybe it's that length of time here in the U.S., but this has ALL been foretold" - Ricktloml

Yep; we were warned a long time ago.
Ephesians Ch 6:10 to 6:18 > especially 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of the world, against spiritual wickedness in high places

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Jan 7, 2018 23:41:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
thinksense wrote:
You know, over time I have had people misunderstand, possibly on purpose, my position. I am a pure libertarian. I long for the day when everyone will live by the motto “MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS ! "

What you people call “progressives”, “liberals”, “left wingers”, I think of as very low intellect, hypnotized suckers and opportunists too dumb to look to the future.

What I think of right wingers is that they are of moderate to fairly high intellect, hypnotized suckers and opportunists willing to sell out the hopes and dreams and usefulness of their future generations .

There is no middle grown as long as they can not or refuse to see the world as it really is.

For example how can they believe that their v**e is not a con game. Right in front of your nose! Come on guys. The people who control things are going to give you an honest v**e??? And lose their control over you??? Where did you park your brain?

Oh, and understand there are no left wingers, right wingers or middle grounders in Govt. There are only self interested opportunists all, no matter what positions, workers or bosses, they hold.


Manning is cute...
Obviously I was not on this planet 150 years ago and have to base my overall view on what I was taught about our history in school, (and it was rated a very good school back in those days), as well as what I have picked up in libraries, museums, from my military, and college training, years in practice, and the sales businesses I ran before.

Plus I had the benefit of having lived a short time in N**i Germany, and having met with and communicated with relatives and other people who were trapped there during the war and again in the Eastern Zone, after the war. I learned of the evils of the people who ran that war, the horrors of my 120 lb stepmother who became an 85 lb "survivor", in less than a month and 8 year old step daughter who developed rickets, having to eat weeds cooked with the cleaned, scraped leather of a pair of old boots, cooked over and over again till the leather was gone, to try to survive after the war was “over”, but no food was available because of our incendiary blanket bombing destroying the means of food production and t***sportation along with the millions of innocent civilians directly k**led. Most of these people I am sure were just like you and your family. I learned about how evil certain animal people, who h**e and fear real humans could be..I have come upon the massive lies and hidden t***hs of modern “health care” and wondered at how such distortions have been developed to create the drug and disease problems we have today.





Btw, Mann, If you really had the clearances to talk to Francis Powers in a CIA cafeteria, and he had the clearances that allowed him to talk and maybe even tell the t***h in a casual atmosphere, then you must know what I am talking about.



So I’ve studied the history as presented and come to certain conclusions.

Our countries problems have been deliberately caused to forward an EVIL agenda.

There has been a conspiracy, (there’s that word again) that goes back, almost surely before 150 years ago, in which certain shrewd, amoral people, working together and boosting each other up the ladder have become unbelievably wealthy, and literally bought, bribed, blackmailed, terrorized those they needed to control most of the governments of the world. And they are working to establish a world where they can Have anything they want, do anything they want, and get away with it, no matter how wrong, without being in jeopardy except from a jealous fellow traveler.

And the rest of the populace will either be k**led off or manufactured into passive s***es, to serve them.
You know, over time I have had people misunderstan... (show quote)


One of the most pointed posts I have ever read here..

You recite certain things from obviously living them and cite them with conviction..

Your time in “N**i Germany and those whom shared their evil abuse “ stirred emotion of tears and yet I know none of those you spoke of.. I simply felt your honest summation of the evil animal people they were and we have become in some ways even in all our advanced knowledge of everything now...

You in fact did study the history well and are right in what said from there on..

Perhaps we will rise above it all some day .. Perhaps that will take place when utopia settles itself on this world, I don’t know, I just pray that with each day we become better than what we are or are not now..

I recall telling you in another post your name suited you.. Silly me, you are knowledge personified!!

I, Thank You for your candor and look forward to reading more...

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Jan 8, 2018 00:01:06   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Wow, good points. But for Christians this 'conspiracy' has been going on for a lot longer than 150 years, maybe it's that length of time here in the U.S., but this has ALL been foretold


Also very well said, and true ... Rick!!

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