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Nov 7, 2017 07:51:04   #
rjoeholl
 
Kevyn wrote:
The shotguns do not have detachable magazines they require manual reloading after 3 to 5 shots. Although a 12 gauge shotgun is a formidable weapon it in no way replicates the cyclic rate of an AR-15 or AK-47 with high capacity detachable magazines.


How the fook do you think the "magazines" get loaded? Time to change your blouse.

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Nov 7, 2017 08:41:12   #
debeda
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
1st. People who preach gun control know nothing about guns.
Last. I guess the first amendment only applies to parchment and quill, and plain speech?


LOL good point

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Nov 7, 2017 08:43:05   #
moldyoldy
 
Gatsby wrote:
You make a very interesting arguement ghost.

Since the founding fathers would have been equally incapable of forseeing radio, television and the internet,

why does the first amendment apply to those forms of media?









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Nov 7, 2017 09:08:39   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
America, this is what a terrorist looks like...........and what he looks like is your typical liberal, like so many before him that shot up churches, movie theatres, schools and a friendly game of baseball.

Yea, look close America........liberals with guns are out to k**l you and your children for praying, playing or going to school.

America, get rid of liberals and all this goes away.....your choice America.....liberals stay, innocent people die.....simple as that.

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Nov 7, 2017 09:13:07   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
The shotguns do not have detachable magazines they require manual reloading after 3 to 5 shots. Although a 12 gauge shotgun is a formidable weapon it in no way replicates the cyclic rate of an AR-15 or AK-47 with high capacity detachable magazines.




wrong skippy......two of my anti liberal gun nut terrorists protection shotguns are magazine fed......try some research before you open up that can of stupidity....oh crap!!! forgot it was you, you have no lid for that can.


P.S. my little facts challenged tardo.......Academy has a couple on sale right now.

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Nov 7, 2017 09:15:49   #
debeda
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
America, this is what a terrorist looks like...........and what he looks like is your typical liberal, like so many before him that shot up churches, movie theatres, schools and a friendly game of baseball.

Yea, look close America........liberals with guns are out to k**l you and your children for praying, playing or going to school.

America, get rid of liberals and all this goes away.....your choice America.....liberals stay, innocent people die.....simple as that.


LMAO good summation

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Nov 7, 2017 09:20:21   #
moldyoldy
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
America, this is what a terrorist looks like...........and what he looks like is your typical liberal, like so many before him that shot up churches, movie theatres, schools and a friendly game of baseball.

Yea, look close America........liberals with guns are out to k**l you and your children for praying, playing or going to school.

America, get rid of liberals and all this goes away.....your choice America.....liberals stay, innocent people die.....simple as that.


But, liberals don't own guns, remember?

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Nov 7, 2017 09:32:04   #
debeda
 
moldyoldy wrote:
But, liberals don't own guns, remember?


YES they're not culturally programmed to understand guns so when they het them they go berserk.

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Nov 7, 2017 09:48:56   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
But, liberals don't own guns, remember?






Nice deflect from your never ending, liberal k*****g spree's of innocents........Good job, you take first honors in the liberal course of deflection.

so who is next? Do you liberals have your sights set on a geriatric ward? it's about the only defenseless place you people have not k**led a bunch in yet........

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Nov 7, 2017 09:50:11   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
debeda wrote:
YES they're not culturally programmed to understand guns so when they het them they go berserk.




plus they mostly steal them, so technically they don't own them.....see S**tcago for proof of that, hell, any liberal city for that matter.

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Nov 7, 2017 10:18:52   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Chameleon12 wrote:
The liberal mainstream media has been propagating a lie for about 30 years now that goes like this: When the founders gave us our bill of rights, they gave us the right to bear arms with the flintlock rifle in mind and were not aware that machine guns and assault rifles would be created in the future. There's only one problem with that. Machine guns and assault rifles were already in existence during that time.

Here is an assault riflle from 1780: https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2015/07/26/assault-weapon-1780/
It carried twenty two bullets.

Machine guns were even older. The first machine gun was created in the late thirteen hundreds. It was called an organ gun and used multiple barrels to fire a volley of shots rapidly. It shot 12 bullets at once. Although it was rare, it was greatly feared on the battlefield and given the nickname "the infernal machine". This was followed by the revolving arquebus in 1597. By the late 1700's, there were already several different types of machine gun in use. Congress was well aware of them. This was followed by the Kalthoff repeater(which had 6 to 30 rounds) and the Cookson repeater (which had 14 rounds and two barrels). This was followed by the puckle gun in 1718 which could shoot up to 9 rounds per minute. By the late 1700s, there were several different types of machine guns out, and congress knew about them.
The liberal mainstream media has been propagating ... (show quote)



Yes, there were dozens of contraptions were created. Most needed a preloaded mechanism and at least two men to work the things.. Accuracy was even worst then the muzzle loaded rifles.

Not untill that Gatling gun, invented just before our civil war was a successful "machine gun" invented that was practical..

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Nov 7, 2017 10:38:43   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
As any one with half a with knows, most of these k**lers have no real political affiliation one side or the other..


A long article going over most of the incedents on the meme..

http://memepoliceman.com/are-these-shooters-all-democrats/



another long piece.

https://www.snopes.com/democrat-shooters-list/
CLAIM
A meme accurately lists Democrats who have been involved in assassinations, assassination attempts, or mass shootings.

RATING
MOSTLY FALSE

list purportedly naming dozens of Democrats throughout history who have shot and k**led presidents, politicians, and civilians has been circulating online since at least 2012 along with the argument that it should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. Musician Ted Nugent posted one of the most popular iterations in September 2015:

This list has evolved since it first started circulating in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting in 2012. The earliest iteration of this list we could uncover only contained five items, but as it spread people added new names and dates and removed old ones that were either irrelevant or disproven.

The earliest versions of this list reveal two things: It has always been rife with errors (Lincoln’s alleged death-by-Democrat was originally listed in 1863, not 1865), and has always circulated with an anti-Democrat, pro-NRA message.

Here’s how “Anonymous Coward” introduced this list on a “God Like Production” forum in January 2013:

Why is it that those who steal guns and k**l movie goers and children in school are always Democrats and not conservatives or NRA members?
Another early version of this list ended — as Nugent’s did — with a “solution” to the gun problem in the United States:

SOLUTION: It should simply be illegal for Democrats to own guns.
Although the message of this meme hasn’t changed, this list has grown from five items in 2012, to 19 as of June 2017. Here is how it appeared on ThoughtCrime Resistance Facebook page:

Setting aside for a moment the accuracy (or lack thereof) of the items on the list, there’s a logical flaw in using this meme to reach the conclusion that Democrats shouldn’t own guns — or that National Rifle Association members, tea party members, or Republicans are less likely to be involved in assassination attempts or mass shootings.

This list is not comprehensive. It does not include all of the shootings that have occurred in the United States, nor the political affiliations of every shooter. It ignores shootings committed by Republicans, as well as those with no political party affiliation, and makes no attempt to show how political affiliation leads to violence. In other words, one could make a similar list naming nothing but Republican or politically unaffiliated shooters in order to make the opposing (and still flawed) argument that those groups should not own guns.

In addition to the logical problems of this meme, much of the information is also inaccurate.

We searched contemporary reports for each of the listed incidents in an attempt to uncover any mentions of political affiliations, motivations, or v****g records. Many of these items can be traced back to poor reporting, articles that were later corrected, or f**e news items. And although we encountered this meme (or a similar list) on a variety of web sites, none of these publications provided any documentation to back up these claims.

Verifying this information through online state v****g registrations proved problematic as deceased individuals are removed from these databases. We reached out to state historical societies for additional documentation, but several of the states we contacted told us that v***r r**********n records weren’t archived. Even if they were, however, one’s official party registration can often contradict one’s political beliefs.

Given the difficulty of finding the political affiliation of many of the individuals on this list, we are highly skeptical that this list is based on credible information.

Here’s a look at what we found:

In conclusion

This v***l list has been published by a wide range of outlets. However, none of those publications provided any documentation to prove that these individuals were all Democrats. Our investigation found that the majority of people on this list had no official connection to a political party, and that the majority of the incidents were not motivated by politics.

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Nov 7, 2017 10:58:56   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
As any one with half a with knows, most of these k**lers have no real political affiliation one side or the other..


A long article going over most of the incedents on the meme..

http://memepoliceman.com/are-these-shooters-all-democrats/



another long piece.

https://www.snopes.com/democrat-shooters-list/
CLAIM
A meme accurately lists Democrats who have been involved in assassinations, assassination attempts, or mass shootings.

RATING
MOSTLY FALSE

list purportedly naming dozens of Democrats throughout history who have shot and k**led presidents, politicians, and civilians has been circulating online since at least 2012 along with the argument that it should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. Musician Ted Nugent posted one of the most popular iterations in September 2015:

This list has evolved since it first started circulating in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting in 2012. The earliest iteration of this list we could uncover only contained five items, but as it spread people added new names and dates and removed old ones that were either irrelevant or disproven.

The earliest versions of this list reveal two things: It has always been rife with errors (Lincoln’s alleged death-by-Democrat was originally listed in 1863, not 1865), and has always circulated with an anti-Democrat, pro-NRA message.

Here’s how “Anonymous Coward” introduced this list on a “God Like Production” forum in January 2013:

Why is it that those who steal guns and k**l movie goers and children in school are always Democrats and not conservatives or NRA members?
Another early version of this list ended — as Nugent’s did — with a “solution” to the gun problem in the United States:

SOLUTION: It should simply be illegal for Democrats to own guns.
Although the message of this meme hasn’t changed, this list has grown from five items in 2012, to 19 as of June 2017. Here is how it appeared on ThoughtCrime Resistance Facebook page:

Setting aside for a moment the accuracy (or lack thereof) of the items on the list, there’s a logical flaw in using this meme to reach the conclusion that Democrats shouldn’t own guns — or that National Rifle Association members, tea party members, or Republicans are less likely to be involved in assassination attempts or mass shootings.

This list is not comprehensive. It does not include all of the shootings that have occurred in the United States, nor the political affiliations of every shooter. It ignores shootings committed by Republicans, as well as those with no political party affiliation, and makes no attempt to show how political affiliation leads to violence. In other words, one could make a similar list naming nothing but Republican or politically unaffiliated shooters in order to make the opposing (and still flawed) argument that those groups should not own guns.

In addition to the logical problems of this meme, much of the information is also inaccurate.

We searched contemporary reports for each of the listed incidents in an attempt to uncover any mentions of political affiliations, motivations, or v****g records. Many of these items can be traced back to poor reporting, articles that were later corrected, or f**e news items. And although we encountered this meme (or a similar list) on a variety of web sites, none of these publications provided any documentation to back up these claims.

Verifying this information through online state v****g registrations proved problematic as deceased individuals are removed from these databases. We reached out to state historical societies for additional documentation, but several of the states we contacted told us that v***r r**********n records weren’t archived. Even if they were, however, one’s official party registration can often contradict one’s political beliefs.

Given the difficulty of finding the political affiliation of many of the individuals on this list, we are highly skeptical that this list is based on credible information.

Here’s a look at what we found:

In conclusion

This v***l list has been published by a wide range of outlets. However, none of those publications provided any documentation to prove that these individuals were all Democrats. Our investigation found that the majority of people on this list had no official connection to a political party, and that the majority of the incidents were not motivated by politics.
As any one with half a with knows, most of these k... (show quote)



No political affiliation?????? is your brain frozen to a street sign? I would say the same thing if I were a Democrat, a democrat hiding from the shame of my crazy base shooting up schools and churches.

you run with that perm, run with it like a sharp pair of scissors down a dark staircase..........

I suggest you wait 30 or 40 yrs, then you can use that old.... we were the KKK until they became conservatives, then someone may buy your excuses for al the children and innocent people you liberals are gunning down....yea, good deflection.......too bad you own that too.

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Nov 7, 2017 11:54:21   #
moldyoldy
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
No political affiliation?????? is your brain frozen to a street sign? I would say the same thing if I were a Democrat, a democrat hiding from the shame of my crazy base shooting up schools and churches.

you run with that perm, run with it like a sharp pair of scissors down a dark staircase..........

I suggest you wait 30 or 40 yrs, then you can use that old.... we were the KKK until they became conservatives, then someone may buy your excuses for al the children and innocent people you liberals are gunning down....yea, good deflection.......too bad you own that too.
No political affiliation?????? is your brain froze... (show quote)


We could look at McVeigh, right wing nut. Most church shootings, right wing nuts, a******n clinic worker k*****gs,right wing nut, N**i and w***e s*********t k*****gs, right wing nuts.

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Nov 7, 2017 12:08:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
moldyoldy wrote:
We could look at McVeigh, right wing nut. Most church shootings, right wing nuts, a******n clinic worker k*****gs,right wing nut, N**i and w***e s*********t k*****gs, right wing nuts.
Spoken like a genuine left wing nut.

BTW: The man who shot the Texas church k**ler, who chased him down and stopped his rampage, is an NRA firearms instructor.

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