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O.K., Pro-Choicers: Let's Talk About What Happened to Jane Doe's Baby
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Oct 28, 2017 16:52:09   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Why don't we call a spade a spade Pete and call it legalized murder.


Better yet, lets call it none of your business.

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Oct 28, 2017 17:09:10   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Better yet, lets call it none of your business.

Sorry Bob, but when babies are being murdered it should become everyone's business.

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Oct 28, 2017 17:37:44   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Sorry Bob, but when babies are being murdered it should become everyone's business.


mwdegutis don't you think the people already have their mines made up by now? You lost remember, it's over already. Do something positive like prevention with BIRTH CONTROL.

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Oct 28, 2017 18:40:14   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
What you didn't absorb, PaulPisces, was Jesus' statement that what you do for the least of mine, you do for me. The least of all of ours are the fetuses in the womb. If you reject that statement then you reject the opinion of The American Academy of Pediatricians that life begins at fertilization and The American Medical Association whose policy is life begins at implantation.

I know you believe, like all progressives, you are better than conservatives but you might give those things a thought. Your mind could use the exercise.

What you didn't absorb, PaulPisces, was Jesus' sta... (show quote)


If only the majority of Christians applied Jesus' statement to other situations as much as they seem to on a******n.
I consistently hear "exceptions" for war, the refusal to take care of the poor and the mistreatment of refugees.
As MW will likely tell you, I am no Bible scholar, but when Jesus made that declaration I do not recall him adding a list of exceptions.

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Oct 28, 2017 19:14:43   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Bad Bob wrote:
mwdegutis don't you think the people already have their mines made up by now? You lost remember, it's over already. Do something positive like prevention with BIRTH CONTROL.

It's too bad that your mother didn't practice birth control.

By the way, a "mine" is a terrible thing to waste.

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Oct 28, 2017 19:15:36   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
PaulPisces wrote:
If only the majority of Christians applied Jesus' statement to other situations as much as they seem to on a******n.
I consistently hear "exceptions" for war, the refusal to take care of the poor and the mistreatment of refugees.
As MW will likely tell you, I am no Bible scholar, but when Jesus made that declaration I do not recall him adding a list of exceptions.

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Oct 28, 2017 19:16:43   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PeterS wrote:
And just how do you intend to force women to have children they don't want? Are you going to do it or will this be a new branch of government?


There's a simple way around it. It's called not engaging in the activity liable to bring about pregnancy. If you engage in sex, tyhere's a good chance pregnancy will develop. If you put a single bullet in one chamber of a a revolver, spin the barrel, point it at someone & pull the trigger, there's a chance the target will be hit by a bullet. You're responsible.

Are you that much of an ignoramus?

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Oct 28, 2017 19:17:38   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
mwdegutis wrote:
It's too bad that your mother didn't practice birth control.

By the way, a "mine" is a terrible thing to waste.

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Oct 28, 2017 19:19:41   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PaulPisces wrote:
If only the majority of Christians applied Jesus' statement to other situations as much as they seem to on a******n.
I consistently hear "exceptions" for war, the refusal to take care of the poor and the mistreatment of refugees.
As MW will likely tell you, I am no Bible scholar, but when Jesus made that declaration I do not recall him adding a list of exceptions.


Christians do those things. We do take care of the poor.

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Oct 28, 2017 19:31:42   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
mwdegutis wrote:
It's too bad that your mother didn't practice birth control.

By the way, a "mine" is a terrible thing to waste.


"]It's too bad that your mother didn't practice birth control."

She did mwdegutis], as an RN she even was a volunteer for Planned Parenthood fitting diaphragms.

By any chance are you Roman Catholic?

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Oct 28, 2017 19:38:14   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
There's a simple way around it. It's called not engaging in the activity liable to bring about pregnancy. If you engage in sex, tyhere's a good chance pregnancy will develop. If you put a single bullet in one chamber of a a revolver, spin the barrel, point it at someone & pull the trigger, there's a chance the target will be hit by a bullet. You're responsible.

Are you that much of an ignoramus?


Hey it worked Real good for Nancy Raygun(dah just say no) and Bristol Palin.

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Oct 28, 2017 20:09:30   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"]It's too bad that your mother didn't practice birth control."

She did mwdegutis], as an RN she even was a volunteer for Planned Parenthood fitting diaphragms.

By any chance are you Roman Catholic?

Nope.

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Oct 28, 2017 23:04:53   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Do you think that the lamestream media will report this in this light?

Brittany Hughes ~ October. 25. 2017
The ACLU’s Jane Doe, a 17-year-old i*****l a***n who’d crossed the border unlawfully and is being held at a federal detention facility in lieu of a sponsor, obtained an a******n early Wednesday morning after a court ruled in favor of her pro-a******n lawyers.

And of course, the pro-“choice” crowd praised the child's fate as a celebratory moment, stopping just shy of physically dancing around a sacrificial altar like some sick and twisted death cult.

Ok. I'll bite. If a******n really is no big deal, if deliberately terminating the life of a developing child is a “right” that we shouldn’t think twice about, if it's really "justice," then let’s talk about what really happened to Jane’s baby. Let's face the t***h with facts instead of hashtags.

For the sake of argument (because they’ll never tell us, that would damage the narrative) let’s assume Jane's baby was a girl. Here's a good idea of what Jane’s baby looked like at 16 weeks:



According to WebMD, Jane’s baby had had a heartbeat for about three months, and measurable brain activity for longer than that. She already had well-developed fingers and toes, eyelashes and fingernails. She could stretch. She could yawn. She could even suck her thumb and make facial expressions. At about 6 inches long, she would have already had a functioning nervous system and fully developed reproductive organs of her own.

Given she was already well into her second trimester, it’s likely Jane Doe underwent what’s called a dilation and evacuation a******n. In this method, Jane would have been given a drug called misoprostol several hours beforehand to help soften her cervix, which the a******nist then manually forced open using a device called an osmotic dilator.

A hollow tube was then injected into Jane’s womb to literally vacuum out her baby. The larger pieces that won't fit in the tube were pulled out with forceps in bloody chunks, all without anesthesia for the child. If the a******nist's done his job right, he left nothing behind. He would then have used a curved blade to scrape out the inside of Jane’s uterus, a dangerous procedure that carries the risk of internal scarring and possible infertility.

The baby's dismembered body would've been disposed of as biological waste, and Jane would have left the clinic the mother of a dead child.

Of course, it’s also possible Jane underwent a medical a******n using a combination of a******n-inducing drugs, a method sometimes used in the early stages of the second trimester. It’s much less likely given her circumstances, living situation, and how far along she was, but let’s consider the possibility anyway.

If this is the case, then it’s likely that Jane hasn’t yet completed the two-day medical a******n process. In this scenario, here’s what’s happening right now.
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Under this method, the drug mifepristone was most probably administered to her vaginally by an a******nist at the clinic, though it’s possible she took it by mouth. Also known as RU-486, here’s what mifepristone does to a developing preborn baby:

RU-486 is an artificial steroid that interferes with the action of progesterone, a hormone crucial to the early progress of pregnancy. Progesterone stimulates the increased development of the uterine lining, which nourishes the developing child. It also suppresses normal uterine contractions, which could dislodge the child implanted and growing on the wall of the mother’s womb.

This a******n-inducing procedure RU-486 fills the chemical receptor sites normally reserved for progesterone and blocks the progesterone signal. Failing to receive that signal, a woman’s body shuts down the pr********n of the uterus and initiates the menstrual process.

The pre-born child, deprived of necessary nutrients, starves to death.


Jane’s baby’s heart, which has been beating for the past three months, will eventually stop.

In this event, it’s likely the a******n clinic has already sent Jane back to the detention facility to complete the a******n process in roughly 48 hours using a drug called misoprostol, which will induce premature labor and expel the now-shriveled dead baby a full five months early. She will likely bleed heavily, vomit, and experience quite a lot of pain. She may require medical intervention to stop from hemorrhaging.

This method certainly isn’t without its risks. The U.S. National Library of Medicine warns that “irrespective of the medication used for second trimester termination there is a considerable risk of surgical intervention because of vaginal bleeding or incomplete a******n.”

One of these two methods happened this morning in a Texas a******n clinic. A child, with its own unique fingerprints, who could suck her thumb and yawn and make faces, was either starved to death slowly only to be born dead on a bathroom floor, or she was ripped from her mother in pieces. And the ACLU is celebrating it.

That's what they fight for. That's what they call “justice.”

God help those who think it so.
Do you think that the lamestream media will report... (show quote)


That was a brutal read and very upsetting. I detest the inhuman "Its" that do this. I really really hope God gives them their just deserves!!!

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Oct 28, 2017 23:08:21   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
PeterS wrote:
So you're telling me it's justice for the government to control the bodies of it's citizens?

Here's a simple question: suppose I am dying, need a kidney, and you are a perfect match. Does the government have a right to force you to give me a kidney or should you only give me one if it is your choice?

The point is: who has a right to control your body in times of life or death--your or the government? Right now you are saying the government does because a cute little fetuses life depends on it. I'm asking you--what is justice???
So you're telling me it's justice for the governme... (show quote)


First of all it WASN'T life or death and a kidney is not a child. That was just a stupid, asinine post!

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Oct 28, 2017 23:58:01   #
PeterS
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Why don't we call a spade a spade Pete and call it legalized murder.

Well it's legal. If you want to force women to have children they don't want then go ahead and try but a******n is almost as old as homosexuality. You haven't had any luck eliminating one so I doubt you will have any luck eliminating the other...

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