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Oct 23, 2017 13:43:51   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Dang lp . This makes three times this year we are in agreement .

lpnmajor wrote:
Anyone who willingly sticks their heads into the public arena, are giving tacit permission to have those heads bashed, by whomever feels the need. There is one area I believe is off limits, as far as bashing is concerned - our fallen warriors and their families. They are used as political tools while serving, but that ends when they fall, and shame on ANYONE who attempts to use them further.................they've served and been t***sferred to a another duty station, placing them off limits.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:21:59   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
missinglink wrote:
Dang lp . This makes three times this year we are in agreement .

You got'ta understand, M-L...Lpnmajor, 'Doc' was a corpsman. That makes him an honorary Marine...thus, worthy of increased status.

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Oct 23, 2017 14:37:06   #
Lonewolf
 
I know the feeling my kidneys are taking a beating and at my age I'll never get a t***splant,
Which is good as my family seems to drop dead around 78 I'm now 74, I have no regrets except I should of started working smarter instead of harder long ago lol


quote=missinglink]Both my thyroid and pituitary went on the blitz about the same time . The meds I am on for those two issues
caused me to swell up by 60 lbs . Or maybe it was the inactivity period I went thru due to other issues . It's been
one hell of a ride and starting to get a little bumpy . Not complaining . To many friends are gone .

There but for the grace of god goes I.
Edward Bickersteth
1822[/quote]

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Oct 23, 2017 21:23:21   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
I still ride motorcycles at 70 . This past Saturday was about a 300 mi day . My new kidney belt
came in handy . I have very good kidneys and wish to keep them that way . If possible !
Until a few years ago they flushed copious amounts of beer thru themselves without a pee-p .
So far I have been able to circumnavigate most of my physical issues by re-engineering how I do
damned near everything . Ah yes , the 70's . Interesting aren't they . I feel like hammered you know
what most of the time and in particular my evenings . Yet , come riding day , now twice weekly , I
feel great . Funny how that works . Unlike yourself I have a few regrets . Yeah a few , .
But , I am here . Much to many peoples chagrins .



desparado wrote:
I know the feeling my kidneys are taking a beating and at my age I'll never get a t***splant,
Which is good as my family seems to drop dead around 78 I'm now 74, I have no regrets except I should of started working smarter instead of harder long ago lol


quote=missinglink]Both my thyroid and pituitary went on the blitz about the same time . The meds I am on for those two issues
caused me to swell up by 60 lbs . Or maybe it was the inactivity period I went thru due to other issues . It's been
one hell of a ride and starting to get a little bumpy . Not complaining . To many friends are gone .

There but for the grace of god goes I.
Edward Bickersteth
1822
I know the feeling my kidneys are taking a beating... (show quote)
[/quote]

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Oct 23, 2017 22:18:02   #
Lonewolf
 
I would love to ride again its been over 40 years but I fear my eye site and balance issues would hinder me.Good luck and safe driving .



missinglink wrote:
I still ride motorcycles at 70 . This past Saturday was about a 300 mi day . My new kidney belt
came in handy . I have very good kidneys and wish to keep them that way . If possible !
Until a few years ago they flushed copious amounts of beer thru themselves without a pee-p .
So far I have been able to circumnavigate most of my physical issues by re-engineering how I do
damned near everything . Ah yes , the 70's . Interesting aren't they . I feel like hammered you know
what most of the time and in particular my evenings . Yet , come riding day , now twice weekly , I
feel great . Funny how that works . Unlike yourself I have a few regrets . Yeah a few , .
But , I am here . Much to many peoples chagrins .
I still ride motorcycles at 70 . This past Saturda... (show quote)

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Oct 23, 2017 23:24:54   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
I hear ya slatten . I've known both corpsmen and medics back in the day and they are more that a different cut.
They are that and a cut above . I just lost one of the nicest fellows I've ever known . A Nam Combat Medic .
A really really nice man . We never spoke of Vietnam but I would venture a wild guess his Silver Star was well earned.


President Trump was due to give another Nam Combat Medic a Medal of Honor today .

slatten49 wrote:
You got'ta understand, M-L...Lpnmajor, 'Doc' was a corpsman. That makes him an honorary Marine...thus, worthy of increased status.

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Oct 24, 2017 06:35:21   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
missinglink wrote:
I hear ya slatten . I've known both corpsmen and medics back in the day and they are more that a different cut.
They are that and a cut above . I just lost one of the nicest fellows I've ever known . A Nam Combat Medic .
A really really nice man . We never spoke of Vietnam but I would venture a wild guess his Silver Star was well earned.


President Trump was due to give another Nam Combat Medic a Medal of Honor today .

I watched the presentation 'til my brother called me.

'Better late than never,' but I do wonder why it took so long for our 'Nam brethren to get the recognition they deserve.

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Oct 24, 2017 08:11:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Anyone who willingly sticks their heads into the public arena, are giving tacit permission to have those heads bashed, by whomever feels the need. There is one area I believe is off limits, as far as bashing is concerned - our fallen warriors and their families. They are used as political tools while serving, but that ends when they fall, and shame on ANYONE who attempts to use them further.................they've served and been t***sferred to a another duty station, placing them off limits.
img src="https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/ima... (show quote)


Well said, major...I agree completely.. yet I do feel our Generals are of high integrity and while fair game It should be done with respect as well.

I take our military over and above and in that sentiment if you challenge them you better be right!!!

Often enough they become the political pawn of politicians who use them up and then spit them out..

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Oct 24, 2017 08:19:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
slatten49 wrote:
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down the position that it’s “highly inappropriate” to question a four-star general. Not only are generals “fair game,” but the military is “fiercely protective” of Americans’ right to criticize them, he insisted.

“I think we’re all fair game,” Petraeus said on ABC’s “This Week.” He added: “We, in uniform, protect the rights of others to criticize us … we are fiercely protective of the rights of our Americans to express themselves, even if that includes criticizing us.”

Petraeus’ slam was a response to a warning by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders last week that it’s “highly inappropriate to debate” a four-star Marine general. The press secretary’s comments came after reporters questioned her about the veracity of a statement made by White House chief of staff and retired four-star general John Kelly.

Kelly had insisted that Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson (D) had boasted about obtaining funds for a new FBI building named for two slain agents — and failed to honor their memory. But video of Wilson’s speech at the time revealed that Kelly was wrong on both counts.

Kelly’s false statement was a part of an attempt to attack Wilson, who criticized President Donald Trump’s condolence call to the widow of a fallen soldier as insensitive. According to the congresswoman, Trump said that Army Sgt. La David Johnson “must’ve known what he was getting into.” Trump blasted the account as a “total fabrication,” but Wilson’s version of the call was backed up by Johnson’s mother.

Petraeus noted that he himself has been the target of criticism. “I certainly experienced lots of that in testimony on Capitol Hill during the surge in Iraq and subsequent endeavors in Afghanistan’s central command and so forth,” he said.

Petraeus also called the public spat about the president’s call “unfortunate.”

“We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

Petraeus said he suspects Kelly is now “trying to figure out how to turn down the volume [and] move forward.”
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down th... (show quote)


The best part of his statement;
We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

I hope Wilson heard his speech.. Not that it will educate her to anything, her 5 minutes of fame was more important..

As for the issue itself I’m tired of hearing it and think it’s pathetic to keep it going just for political sentiment..It. completely dishonors our fallen soldiers and that’s enough for me..!

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Oct 24, 2017 08:29:32   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
The best part of his statement;
We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

I hope Wilson heard his speech.. Not that it will educate her to anything, her 5 minutes of fame was more important..

As for the issue itself I’m tired of hearing it and think it’s pathetic to keep it going just for political sentiment..It. completely dishonors our fallen soldiers and that’s enough for me..!
The best part of his statement; br We need to uni... (show quote)


Agreed

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Oct 24, 2017 11:48:39   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Trust me when I say that I never miss lunch...or any meal.

High metabolism and all, ya' understand.



I could jump in here
but I won't
since this is a serious thread

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Oct 24, 2017 14:33:17   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
I could jump in here
but I won't
since this is a serious thread

Marines never take Squids seriously, except as a serious source of extra cash from poker.

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Oct 24, 2017 15:19:49   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Marines never take Squids seriously, except as a serious source of extra cash from poker.


and I was tryin to be nice
dern Marine

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Oct 24, 2017 15:37:14   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
and I was tryin to be nice
dern Marine

I know you were, BB...I feel so ashamed.

I'm over it, though.

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Oct 24, 2017 15:46:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
lindajoy wrote:
Well said, major...I agree completely.. yet I do feel our Generals are of high integrity and while fair game It should be done with respect as well.

I take our military over and above and in that sentiment if you challenge them you better be right!!!

Often enough they become the political pawn of politicians who use them up and then spit them out..


Given the options between believing General Kelly and Congresswoman Wilson there is not an option or a choice. Given the option between believing Hillary and Obama or Bergdahl, I'd believe the single issue t*****r over the other two.

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