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Oct 23, 2017 07:22:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down the position that it’s “highly inappropriate” to question a four-star general. Not only are generals “fair game,” but the military is “fiercely protective” of Americans’ right to criticize them, he insisted.

“I think we’re all fair game,” Petraeus said on ABC’s “This Week.” He added: “We, in uniform, protect the rights of others to criticize us … we are fiercely protective of the rights of our Americans to express themselves, even if that includes criticizing us.”

Petraeus’ slam was a response to a warning by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders last week that it’s “highly inappropriate to debate” a four-star Marine general. The press secretary’s comments came after reporters questioned her about the veracity of a statement made by White House chief of staff and retired four-star general John Kelly.

Kelly had insisted that Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson (D) had boasted about obtaining funds for a new FBI building named for two slain agents — and failed to honor their memory. But video of Wilson’s speech at the time revealed that Kelly was wrong on both counts.

Kelly’s false statement was a part of an attempt to attack Wilson, who criticized President Donald Trump’s condolence call to the widow of a fallen soldier as insensitive. According to the congresswoman, Trump said that Army Sgt. La David Johnson “must’ve known what he was getting into.” Trump blasted the account as a “total fabrication,” but Wilson’s version of the call was backed up by Johnson’s mother.

Petraeus noted that he himself has been the target of criticism. “I certainly experienced lots of that in testimony on Capitol Hill during the surge in Iraq and subsequent endeavors in Afghanistan’s central command and so forth,” he said.

Petraeus also called the public spat about the president’s call “unfortunate.”

“We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

Petraeus said he suspects Kelly is now “trying to figure out how to turn down the volume [and] move forward.”

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Oct 23, 2017 08:23:12   #
Morgan
 
slatten49 wrote:
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down the position that it’s “highly inappropriate” to question a four-star general. Not only are generals “fair game,” but the military is “fiercely protective” of Americans’ right to criticize them, he insisted.

“I think we’re all fair game,” Petraeus said on ABC’s “This Week.” He added: “We, in uniform, protect the rights of others to criticize us … we are fiercely protective of the rights of our Americans to express themselves, even if that includes criticizing us.”

Petraeus’ slam was a response to a warning by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders last week that it’s “highly inappropriate to debate” a four-star Marine general. The press secretary’s comments came after reporters questioned her about the veracity of a statement made by White House chief of staff and retired four-star general John Kelly.

Kelly had insisted that Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson (D) had boasted about obtaining funds for a new FBI building named for two slain agents — and failed to honor their memory. But video of Wilson’s speech at the time revealed that Kelly was wrong on both counts.

Kelly’s false statement was a part of an attempt to attack Wilson, who criticized President Donald Trump’s condolence call to the widow of a fallen soldier as insensitive. According to the congresswoman, Trump said that Army Sgt. La David Johnson “must’ve known what he was getting into.” Trump blasted the account as a “total fabrication,” but Wilson’s version of the call was backed up by Johnson’s mother.

Petraeus noted that he himself has been the target of criticism. “I certainly experienced lots of that in testimony on Capitol Hill during the surge in Iraq and subsequent endeavors in Afghanistan’s central command and so forth,” he said.

Petraeus also called the public spat about the president’s call “unfortunate.”

“We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

Petraeus said he suspects Kelly is now “trying to figure out how to turn down the volume [and] move forward.”
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Petraeus, is correct on all points, no one is above the law... or criticism, and him standing up for this he's just gained more respect from me.

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Oct 23, 2017 09:28:15   #
boatbob2
 
petraeus (betray us) got caught with classified materials,that he gave to his girlfriend.......

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Oct 23, 2017 09:52:07   #
Lonewolf
 
Vary good post thanks once again


slatten49 wrote:
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down the position that it’s “highly inappropriate” to question a four-star general. Not only are generals “fair game,” but the military is “fiercely protective” of Americans’ right to criticize them, he insisted.

“I think we’re all fair game,” Petraeus said on ABC’s “This Week.” He added: “We, in uniform, protect the rights of others to criticize us … we are fiercely protective of the rights of our Americans to express themselves, even if that includes criticizing us.”

Petraeus’ slam was a response to a warning by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders last week that it’s “highly inappropriate to debate” a four-star Marine general. The press secretary’s comments came after reporters questioned her about the veracity of a statement made by White House chief of staff and retired four-star general John Kelly.

Kelly had insisted that Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson (D) had boasted about obtaining funds for a new FBI building named for two slain agents — and failed to honor their memory. But video of Wilson’s speech at the time revealed that Kelly was wrong on both counts.

Kelly’s false statement was a part of an attempt to attack Wilson, who criticized President Donald Trump’s condolence call to the widow of a fallen soldier as insensitive. According to the congresswoman, Trump said that Army Sgt. La David Johnson “must’ve known what he was getting into.” Trump blasted the account as a “total fabrication,” but Wilson’s version of the call was backed up by Johnson’s mother.

Petraeus noted that he himself has been the target of criticism. “I certainly experienced lots of that in testimony on Capitol Hill during the surge in Iraq and subsequent endeavors in Afghanistan’s central command and so forth,” he said.

Petraeus also called the public spat about the president’s call “unfortunate.”

“We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

Petraeus said he suspects Kelly is now “trying to figure out how to turn down the volume [and] move forward.”
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Oct 23, 2017 10:12:48   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down the position that it’s “highly inappropriate” to question a four-star general. Not only are generals “fair game,” but the military is “fiercely protective” of Americans’ right to criticize them, he insisted.

“I think we’re all fair game,” Petraeus said on ABC’s “This Week.” He added: “We, in uniform, protect the rights of others to criticize us … we are fiercely protective of the rights of our Americans to express themselves, even if that includes criticizing us.”

Petraeus’ slam was a response to a warning by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders last week that it’s “highly inappropriate to debate” a four-star Marine general. The press secretary’s comments came after reporters questioned her about the veracity of a statement made by White House chief of staff and retired four-star general John Kelly.

Kelly had insisted that Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson (D) had boasted about obtaining funds for a new FBI building named for two slain agents — and failed to honor their memory. But video of Wilson’s speech at the time revealed that Kelly was wrong on both counts.

Kelly’s false statement was a part of an attempt to attack Wilson, who criticized President Donald Trump’s condolence call to the widow of a fallen soldier as insensitive. According to the congresswoman, Trump said that Army Sgt. La David Johnson “must’ve known what he was getting into.” Trump blasted the account as a “total fabrication,” but Wilson’s version of the call was backed up by Johnson’s mother.

Petraeus noted that he himself has been the target of criticism. “I certainly experienced lots of that in testimony on Capitol Hill during the surge in Iraq and subsequent endeavors in Afghanistan’s central command and so forth,” he said.

Petraeus also called the public spat about the president’s call “unfortunate.”

“We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

Petraeus said he suspects Kelly is now “trying to figure out how to turn down the volume [and] move forward.”
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down th... (show quote)


Anyone who willingly sticks their heads into the public arena, are giving tacit permission to have those heads bashed, by whomever feels the need. There is one area I believe is off limits, as far as bashing is concerned - our fallen warriors and their families. They are used as political tools while serving, but that ends when they fall, and shame on ANYONE who attempts to use them further.................they've served and been t***sferred to a another duty station, placing them off limits.

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Oct 23, 2017 10:32:02   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
I remain a supporter of General Petraeus, General Kelly and especially General Mattis. But, a decades-long personal relationship with a deceased USMC general confirms human fallibilities for all individuals. In General Kelly's case, his memory may have failed him to some degree, as I would like to believe he would not knowingly tell an unt***h. In any event, no one in government or the military is above questioning or challenging.

IMO, General Petraeus spoke to this matter well.

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Oct 23, 2017 11:39:29   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
All true as far as I know .


slatten49 wrote:
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down the position that it’s “highly inappropriate” to question a four-star general. Not only are generals “fair game,” but the military is “fiercely protective” of Americans’ right to criticize them, he insisted.

“I think we’re all fair game,” Petraeus said on ABC’s “This Week.” He added: “We, in uniform, protect the rights of others to criticize us … we are fiercely protective of the rights of our Americans to express themselves, even if that includes criticizing us.”

Petraeus’ slam was a response to a warning by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders last week that it’s “highly inappropriate to debate” a four-star Marine general. The press secretary’s comments came after reporters questioned her about the veracity of a statement made by White House chief of staff and retired four-star general John Kelly.

Kelly had insisted that Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson (D) had boasted about obtaining funds for a new FBI building named for two slain agents — and failed to honor their memory. But video of Wilson’s speech at the time revealed that Kelly was wrong on both counts.

Kelly’s false statement was a part of an attempt to attack Wilson, who criticized President Donald Trump’s condolence call to the widow of a fallen soldier as insensitive. According to the congresswoman, Trump said that Army Sgt. La David Johnson “must’ve known what he was getting into.” Trump blasted the account as a “total fabrication,” but Wilson’s version of the call was backed up by Johnson’s mother.

Petraeus noted that he himself has been the target of criticism. “I certainly experienced lots of that in testimony on Capitol Hill during the surge in Iraq and subsequent endeavors in Afghanistan’s central command and so forth,” he said.

Petraeus also called the public spat about the president’s call “unfortunate.”

“We need to unite behind our gold star families to embrace them with compassion and with support — not to d**g them into partisan politics,” he said. “Sadly, this is a bit symptomatic of what I think is afflicting our country right now. Arguably the most important threat the United States faces is not Russia, Iran and North Korea, or even Chinese competition or ISIS. It’s parochialism here at home.”

Petraeus said he suspects Kelly is now “trying to figure out how to turn down the volume [and] move forward.”
Retired Gen. David Petraeus on Sunday shot down th... (show quote)

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Oct 23, 2017 11:40:14   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
slatten49 wrote:
I remain a supporter of General Petraeus, General Kelly and especially General Mattis. But, a decades-long personal relationship with a deceased USMC general confirms human fallibilities for all individuals. In General Kelly's case, his memory may have failed him to some degree, as I would like to believe he would not knowingly tell an unt***h. In any event, no one in government or the military is above questioning or challenging.

IMO, General Petraeus spoke to this matter well.



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Oct 23, 2017 12:53:54   #
Lonewolf
 
he most certainly deserves a little slack s**t i don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday




slatten49 wrote:
I remain a supporter of General Petraeus, General Kelly and especially General Mattis. But, a decades-long personal relationship with a deceased USMC general confirms human fallibilities for all individuals. In General Kelly's case, his memory may have failed him to some degree, as I would like to believe he would not knowingly tell an unt***h. In any event, no one in government or the military is above questioning or challenging.

IMO, General Petraeus spoke to this matter well.

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Oct 23, 2017 13:02:24   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
desparado wrote:
he most certainly deserves a little slack s**t i don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday

That's easy for me, Dez. I had lunch.

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Oct 23, 2017 13:05:11   #
Lonewolf
 
and I probably missed mine lol.




slatten49 wrote:
That's easy for me, Dez. I had lunch.

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Oct 23, 2017 13:06:44   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
desparado wrote:
and I probably missed mine lol.

Trust me when I say that I never miss lunch...or any meal.

High metabolism and all, ya' understand.

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Oct 23, 2017 13:27:38   #
Lonewolf
 
I had a double lung t***splant and with all the anti-rejection drugs I take, i have a very slow metabolism and my gut shows it or maybe its just beer.


slatten49 wrote:
Trust me when I say that I never miss lunch...or any meal.

High metabolism and all, ya' understand.

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Oct 23, 2017 13:31:59   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
desparado wrote:
I had a double lung t***splant and with all the anti-rejection drugs I take, i have a very slow metabolism and my gut shows it or maybe its just beer.

Beer gut, huh

Never heard of such a thing.

Wishing you the best with your new lungs.

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Oct 23, 2017 13:39:18   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Both my thyroid and pituitary went on the blitz about the same time . The meds I am on for those two issues
caused me to swell up by 60 lbs . Or maybe it was the inactivity period I went thru due to other issues . It's been
one hell of a ride and starting to get a little bumpy . Not complaining . To many friends are gone .

There but for the grace of god goes I.
Edward Bickersteth
1822


desparado wrote:
I had a double lung t***splant and with all the anti-rejection drugs I take, i have a very slow metabolism and my gut shows it or maybe its just beer.

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