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Oct 21, 2017 11:14:47   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
kenvrla wrote:
Hemp has no THC or any other psychoactive properties. You could smoke a pound and not get high. Pullet, don't think todays pot is a lot better than what we had in 'nam, but it surely smells, looks and tastes a lot better. Hemp is a whole different animal, and is the perfect environmental solution to plastics and a host of other products that pollute during production and disposal.



I'd like to see what we could do as a free people with what we've been given.
We have a lots of talent, if the government wasn't bought and sold to the highest bidders (lobbyist).

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Oct 21, 2017 13:34:59   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
kenvrla wrote:
Hemp has no THC or any other psychoactive properties. You could smoke a pound and not get high. Pullet, don't think todays pot is a lot better than what we had in 'nam, but it surely smells, looks and tastes a lot better. Hemp is a whole different animal, and is the perfect environmental solution to plastics and a host of other products that pollute during production and disposal.


I've read that hemp actually does contain some small amounts of THC.
The main thing is that hemp is made from male plants, which produce no seeds or buds.
It is the buds from the female plant that contain the concentration of THC strong enough to produce a psycho-reactive experience.

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Oct 21, 2017 14:12:56   #
plainlogic
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I've read that hemp actually does contain some small amounts of THC.
The main thing is that hemp is made from male plants, which produce no seeds or buds.
It is the buds from the female plant that contain the concentration of THC strong enough to produce a psycho-reactive experience.


Bingo! Paul. Just a thought here, if Alcohol numbs people when things go wrong and is used for that purpose for many, at times to excess. What will Marijuana become?

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Oct 21, 2017 14:58:55   #
Carol Kelly
 
PulletSurprise wrote:
Me too, wh**ever will make us stronger as a sovereign free nation.

If Henry Ford built a car 10 times stronger than steel.
I wonder, is there possibilities of constructing aircraft using the same principles?
If solely hemp, would it be able to fly under the radar, how would you detect it from any other natural type debris? Large quantities, could it be less expensive?

Hopefully, we won't wait for the N. Koreans and Iranians to pave the way, to show us.
The Love of money, Greed is the greatest plague facing us.
Me too, wh**ever will make us stronger as a sovere... (show quote)


Love of money, greed is the greatest plague, but similarly people who misuse and abuse everything is second.

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Oct 21, 2017 16:24:51   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
Carol Kelly,

Just think, if Henry Ford built a car from Hemp, and it was 10 X's stronger than steel, what this could mean!

Could we build lighter, safer, more efficient and less expensive autos than the fiberglass models currently on the road?

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Oct 21, 2017 17:45:36   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
plainlogic wrote:
Bingo! Paul. Just a thought here, if Alcohol numbs people when things go wrong and is used for that purpose for many, at times to excess. What will Marijuana become?


plainlogic, I'm writing 'food for thought' so don't take me for a smart-aleck.

If Marijuana was legalized, I'd not worry about my friends and neighbors becoming aberrant in their ways. I'd trust them, as I do now, to act responsibly.

We can't legislate morality and we don't need fear to motivate our decisions.

Just think of the endless possibilities: less toxins in our soil and water; is it possible to replace our fiberglass vehicles with hemp fabric that's 10X's stronger than steel; having paper without excessive chemicals while saving our forest; build houses that are stronger and less costly; etc.

Medically, if smoking would alleviate my physical pains ( I have a rare illness), I'd probably try it occasionally. I wouldn't chance driving afterwards. If it helps cancer patients, I'd approve it.

In my opinion, it's cost prohibitive to spend $35,000 annually on drug arrest to house, clothed, feed with free medical care when they could be home acting productively. Law Enforcement need to divert their attention to mollify the predators (burglars; arsonist; rapist; robbers; murderers; etc.) to the full extent of the law. Also, those that falsely accuse another should be held with the same contempt and penalty for the crime of accusation. Give the predators their due diligence.
I like to eliminate the middle man gangsters from their profits.
We should fear the predators more than an individual sitting around his house getting high or someone walking around his neighborhood with a stash in his pocket.

I believe the benefits of legalizing Marijuana outweigh our fears! What do you think?

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Oct 21, 2017 20:49:22   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
PulletSurprise wrote:
plainlogic, I'm writing 'food for thought' so don't take me for a smart-aleck.

If Marijuana was legalized, I'd not worry about my friends and neighbors becoming aberrant in their ways. I'd trust them, as I do now, to act responsibly.

We can't legislate morality and we don't need fear to motivate our decisions.

Just think of the endless possibilities: less toxins in our soil and water; is it possible to replace our fiberglass vehicles with hemp fabric that's 10X's stronger than steel; having paper without excessive chemicals while saving our forest; build houses that are stronger and less costly; etc.

Medically, if smoking would alleviate my physical pains ( I have a rare illness), I'd probably try it occasionally. I wouldn't chance driving afterwards. If it helps cancer patients, I'd approve it.

In my opinion, it's cost prohibitive to spend $35,000 annually on drug arrest to house, clothed, feed with free medical care when they could be home acting productively. Law Enforcement need to divert their attention to mollify the predators (burglars; arsonist; rapist; robbers; murderers; etc.) to the full extent of the law. Also, those that falsely accuse another should be held with the same contempt and penalty for the crime of accusation. Give the predators their due diligence.
I like to eliminate the middle man gangsters from their profits.
We should fear the predators more than an individual sitting around his house getting high or someone walking around his neighborhood with a stash in his pocket.

I believe the benefits of legalizing Marijuana outweigh our fears! What do you think?
plainlogic, I'm writing 'food for thought' so don'... (show quote)




I agree 100% Pullet!
By the way, did you know that cannabinoids, extracted from marijuana and NOT psycho-reactive, can be used to treat/alleviate many symptoms that other medication cannot?

This site is a little science-jargony, but could be a starting place to explore what might be useful for you.

http://www.projectcbd.org/science/cannabis-pharmacology/how-cbd-works

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Oct 21, 2017 22:47:12   #
Ricktloml
 
PulletSurprise wrote:
Personally, my greatest grievance against prohibiting Marijuana is government's encroachment on our liberties and freedom.
The propaganda by the Hearst Corporation was an unrelenting assault against the hard working poor farmers that were just trying to make ends meet. Farmers were a grave threat to Hearst, DuPont's empires and had to be stopped. Marijuana, from my reading, is a very sturdy plant that needs little attention (pesticides, fertilizers) after it springs to life. Farming was being industrialized, and they were making headway, competing against the lucrative giants. Money talks, the lucrative giants marched in, stomping on anyone opposing their interests via legislation.

Some of the strongest opposition stems from the Pharmaceutical industries; middle man gangsters; fuel industries and government leaders.

I think, people should act responsibly, regardless of whether they drink, smoke or run for office!

I've probably been hit harder for insisting, demanding and enforcing equal justice for everyone. The same standards applies to everyone; regardless of your social standing or political influence. Travesty of justice starts at the top with our people, judges, and most of all, our people (apathy, little favors to justify your support, etc.) and the hirelings just follow suit.

Ms Clinton previously demanded at various times, the full force of prosecuting minions face prison time, such as the poor taxi cab driver, etc. FBI assisted with the obstruction of justice allowing her attorneys to simply destroy any incriminating evidence afforded them. This is wrong!

The same legal system musters its full strength against a young man, whose only crime was to possess a naturally grown substance, Marijuana to months, years and even a lifetime sentence of incarceration... this is injustice, no matter how you paint the picture.
I've seen honest, young men that have had their careers destroyed because they admitted to smoking Marijuana without any further substantiating evidence... this is wrong!
Personally, my greatest grievance against prohibit... (show quote)


Very few people want to advocate for drug abuse. That being said there should be no restrictions on growing hemp, as it already doesn't contain what gets people "high". As for marijuana , I think the restrictive laws have done more harm than good. And I don't think any cancer patient, (or any of the other diseases that benefit from the use of marijuana) should have to jump through hoops to use any product that can help them. There will always those who abuse drugs, (they do it right now with prescribed drugs) to deny those who don't abuse these drugs access just doesn't seem right

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Oct 21, 2017 23:01:28   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
Thanks Paul,
Reading reminded me of some of my courses in grad school decades ago. It was interesting.
I've forgotten more than I ever knew. lol

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Oct 21, 2017 23:27:15   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
Ricktloml wrote:
As for marijuana , I think the restrictive laws have done more harm than good. And I don't think any cancer patient, (or any of the other diseases that benefit from the use of marijuana) should have to jump through hoops to use any product that can help them.


I think, the Pharmaceutical mega corporations are the biggest stumbling blocks regarding the benefits from the use of marijuana. If a person is in constant pain or is dying, why not open various avenues of treatment and/or for their comfort.

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Oct 23, 2017 21:11:49   #
E
 
Another thing that I think needs clarifying. I seem to remember hearing that hemp needs a lot of water to grow. Any information?

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Oct 23, 2017 23:12:34   #
Ricktloml
 
E wrote:
Another thing that I think needs clarifying. I seem to remember hearing that hemp needs a lot of water to grow. Any information?


Years ago I saw a special documentary about the Sioux growing hemp. They had estimated they would make $150,000 for their tribe to share. The Feds let them grow it, and harvest it, then confiscated it and burned it in front of them. It was sickening

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Oct 23, 2017 23:23:18   #
E
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Years ago I saw a special documentary about the Sioux growing hemp. They had estimated they would make $150,000 for their tribe to share. The Feds let them grow it, and harvest it, then confiscated it and burned it in front of them. It was sickening


Our government can be so utterly stupid at times. Pathetic.

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Oct 24, 2017 13:07:16   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
E wrote:
Another thing that I think needs clarifying. I seem to remember hearing that hemp needs a lot of water to grow. Any information?


I found the following:

1. “The one big benefit of hemp? Its environmental footprint is relatively small. It requires few pesticides and no herbicides. It’s an excellent rotation crop, often used to suppress weeds and loosen soil before the planting of winter cereals. On the other hand, it requires a relatively large amount of water, and its need for deep, humus-rich, nutrient-dense soil limits growing locales.” https://modernfarmer.com/2013/10/legal-industrial-hemp-wont-matter/


2. When you add processing into the equation, cotton uses more than four times as much water as hemp. Polyester is difficult to compare, because it's not an agricultural product. But some studies suggest it's the least water-intensive of the bunch, using just one-thousandth as much water as cotton. (In fact, water is a byproduct of polyester processing.)

So where does all this leave us? Without a clear winner, unfortunately. There's an argument to make for polyester, but the nonrenewability of synthetic textiles raises serious concerns. Overall, hemp appears to be slightly easier on the environment than cotton, considering it's superior on water and land requirements, and only slightly worse for energy use.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_green_lantern/2011/04/high_on_environmentalism.html

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Oct 24, 2017 13:14:51   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Years ago I saw a special documentary about the Sioux growing hemp. They had estimated they would make $150,000 for their tribe to share. The Feds let them grow it, and harvest it, then confiscated it and burned it in front of them. It was sickening


How do you argue against the injustice of the Sioux? That's Sadistic!

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