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1. Ha, ha... you're so confused. First of all, a gerund is a noun derived from a verb... You are using the word "stumblingly" as an adverb, not as a noun OR an adjective. But at least you spelled gerund right, so that's good. LOL

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2. Says the guy who thinks he converted a verb into a gerund and modified that into an adverb and applied it as an adjective to describe an adjective. LOL

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3. ...what you're seeing there is a faltering with the facts.

and...

4. What, I find interesting is how you make the unfounded assumption that I didn't know... and beyond that, you said it's apparent.

I'm really not inclined to provide you with an English lesson so, very briefly,

(1) we are not talking about the use of the word, 'stumblingly'. That was used in an attempt to clarify the intent and meaning of the original statement using the word, 'falteringly'.

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(2) read what I wrote once more, if you are going to imply that you are quoting me, try to be accurate.

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(3) you've used 'faltering' incorrectly. If you want to use it as a gerund, it should read, 'what you're seeing there is a faltering'. You have attempted to use it as an adjective modifying the noun, 'facts'.

(4) I didn't say anything was apparent. I used the adverb, 'apparently'. That doesn't mean I have taken anything for granted. It means quite the opposite. Look it up.

Yes, you did. You said... "They are falteringly unbiased".

One more time, I did not say Fox news was unbiased. As you stated, accurately for once, they are falteringly unbiased. That is not the same as saying they are unbiased. Think of it this way, the weatherman says it will be partly cloudy. He did not say the sun won't be seen. He said it will be a blue sky with some periodic cloud cover. You can't separate the partly from the cloudy or the falteringly from the unbiased. They both come as sets.

Well, it takes a extremist NOT to excoriate the current president.
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Aw... are we throwing wild punches now?

Talk about exposing bias. Well done!

Oh, I know... I keep forgetting how subjective you people are... You think because the WSJ is owned by the same people who own Fox News that I can't possibly appreciate one while being critical of the other. It's that tribal thing, isn't it? Sorry to disappoint you but I'm too objective for that crap.

You don't have an objective bone in your body. You begin with another insult, then you tell me how I think (you should have said, you apparently think), and end by explaining to me how I am reacting.

Well, if unfounded insults is all you have left - I'm gonna say we're done.

All of my insults were properly founded.

Oh... and an unintended compliment. So, should I thank you or will that only piss you off?

Such thanks would be happily accepted but doubtfully honest.

TV, radio, newspapers as well as the entertainment industry, including sports, are all just ways for PTB to deliver their manipulations for societal acceptance of "their" ways as opposed to developing your own opinions and moral compass concerning today's issues.

In between all crap you find on the internetz you may find some t***h.....but can anyone really tell the difference anymore.

Live your own life as opposed to the way "they" want you to live it.
Period.

quote=straightUp ...

1. Ha, ha... you're so confused. First of all, a gerund is a noun derived from a verb... You are using the word "stumblingly" as an adverb, not as a noun OR an adjective. But at least you spelled gerund right, so that's good. LOL

and

2. Says the guy who thinks he converted a verb into a gerund and modified that into an adverb and applied it as an adjective to describe an adjective. LOL

and

3. ...what you're seeing there is a faltering with the facts.

and...

4. What, I find interesting is how you make the unfounded assumption that I didn't know... and beyond that, you said it's apparent.

I'm really not inclined to provide you with an English lesson so, very briefly,

(1) we are not talking about the use of the word, 'stumblingly'. That was used in an attempt to clarify the intent and meaning of the original statement using the word, 'falteringly'.

and

(2) read what I wrote once more, if you are going to imply that you are quoting me, try to be accurate.

and

(3) you've used 'faltering' incorrectly. If you want to use it as a gerund, it should read, 'what you're seeing there is a faltering'. You have attempted to use it as an adjective modifying the noun, 'facts'.

(4) I didn't say anything was apparent. I used the adverb, 'apparently'. That doesn't mean I have taken anything for granted. It means quite the opposite. Look it up.

Yes, you did. You said... "They are falteringly unbiased".

One more time, I did not say Fox news was unbiased. As you stated, accurately for once, they are falteringly unbiased. That is not the same as saying they are unbiased. Think of it this way, the weatherman says it will be partly cloudy. He did not say the sun won't be seen. He said it will be a blue sky with some periodic cloud cover. You can't separate the partly from the cloudy or the falteringly from the unbiased. They both come as sets.

Well, it takes a extremist NOT to excoriate the current president.
...
Aw... are we throwing wild punches now?

Talk about exposing bias. Well done!

Oh, I know... I keep forgetting how subjective you people are... You think because the WSJ is owned by the same people who own Fox News that I can't possibly appreciate one while being critical of the other. It's that tribal thing, isn't it? Sorry to disappoint you but I'm too objective for that crap.

You don't have an objective bone in your body. You begin with another insult, then you tell me how I think (you should have said, you apparently think), and end by explaining to me how I am reacting.

Well, if unfounded insults is all you have left - I'm gonna say we're done.

All of my insults were properly founded.

Oh... and an unintended compliment. So, should I thank you or will that only piss you off?

Such thanks would be happily accepted but doubtfully honest.

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I have no single source that I fully trust. Even those that are usually trustworthy sometimes get it wrong. It is up to me to decide the good or the bad!

I watch Fox News Sunday, CBS and NBC on Sunday morning. Fox would would be the better, CBS second and NBC (Stepinandfloponit, being a Rhodes Scholar would be the most C*******t oriented, although Raddatz would be a close second to him; basically in the class of Hanoi Jane Fonda and her Vietnam cohort John Kerry, IMO) third. I also watch Face the Nation and Washington Week sometimes. I watch "Off The Air," and do not have Satellite or CATV because I simply don't need 225+ channels of nothing worth watching, and they won't allow me to choose precisely which channels I want to pay for and view. I also record everything I watch so I can fast-forward through the commercials and wh**ever else I am not interested in. The catharsis of verbiage these "talking heads" can espouse about something they know so little about is absolutely astounding, and I think they all must have gone to the same class when it comes to trying to push their conservative victims, when they rarely have one, to say what they want them to say; fortunately some of these conservative guests are pretty damned good at standing on their principals and can hold their own against these "conversation pushers" and their hard driving ways; I really admire these guests for that ability and their guts, because they probably won't be asked to appear on that show ever again, and risk being radically misquoted and harassed by the Progressive toadies. The news programs are just a show, just entertainment, and they use this as a license to stretch the t***h, twist the t***h, confuse the issues, or flat out lie, wh**ever promotes their Progressive agenda; many times, IMHO, they are the intelligence arm of our enemies, domestic or foreign, trying valiantly to broadcast our military strategies to them by digging hard to get someone to slip and leak something that shouldn't be leaked, which is why these so-called news-anchors are so frustrated by President Trump playing his cards so close to his chest, as he should. They, and the public, do not have a "Need To Know" some things, particularly those things related to our Military operations! LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS!

During the week I usually watch PBS Evening News because they have fewer commercial interruptions, although they are mostly liberal extremists, but one should observe the wrong point of view as well as the right point of view so you get some idea of how they think. If you don't know your enemies, you will have a lot more trouble stopping them. Some so-called news programs look like a string of commercials occasionally interrupted by a few news sound bites (unless it's BROKEN NEWS,where they go on forever telling you everything they don't know and what they might tell you when, and if, they ever find out, stay tuned!), the weather guesser, and the last half the program ends up being sports crap that I'm not interested in, but someone must be. I can usually get through a 30-minute local news program, usually Fox, in about 10 minutes.

I read from a number of political sites on the internet as well. I listen to Talk Radio when I can. I like Hillsdale College Imprimis news as well as their love for the Constitution and their lack of funding with its consequent influence from the government. They are a REAL education, and they also have a lot of free on-line educational courses covering the Constitution and how the government should work rather than how it has been screwing things up for decades, starting about the time of Woodrow Wilson, our first, but not only, C*******t President. This is good, mentally healthful, free education folks, and not the "submissive subterfuge to create a socialist utopian fiasco that the Progressives are teaching in our left tilted public schools, K to 12 and UP nowadays! Most Universities and the DoEd, being nearly pure socialism, make me absolutely ill! Hopefully, President Trump will get some of this farce straightened out relatively soon, if he can survive the Progressive C*******t onslaught and their agitprop against him and the country in general. I don't frequent Social Media, but here's a TOAST to the POTUS! If you want to tweet go right ahead, but be careful, and don't let the bastards wear you down!

I watch local news for local happenings, although they are usually extremely liberal and I have to take most of them with a CUP of salt, and I listen to Michael Savage when I can find him, but I usually have to read him on the internet since my local AM radio station became more liberal, and Mark Levin when I can. They both tell it like it is, and they've written some excellent books.

Of course, I filter all the so-called "news programs," which are sometimes not very new, through my own mental BS filter that has been forged through my formal education of two degrees, many other educational courses, and the school of hard knocks. What finally pops out of my BS filter is what I tend to believe, but at my advanced age, I also reserve the right to believe it or not, and to change my mind if I think someone else has a better idea. One better idea is a Photographic V****g ID to help curb fraudulent v****g, which has been with us for a long time but is getting Progressively worse (pardon the pun), even if it takes a little more effort and money to register. Only about four percent of those who would be eligible to v**e, if they were otherwise truly legally eligible to register, will have any real trouble registering, and that percentage is statistically irrelevant. If your country isn't worth that little effort, and the Democratic imposed taxes it takes to properly and legally register, and then to actually get out and v**e, you're in the wrong country. Most any US citizen that I know is ready and willing to give someone with an honest need a "hand UP" to relieve their situation or get them out of a bind if they are trying to help themselves and can't, but it is certainly not my goal to give a "hand OUT" to every lazy bastard who could work and pay their taxes but elects to v**e for a Progressive living and collect benefits from the government without putting forth any effort on their own, especially if that bastard is an i*****l a***n and a felon that should be either deported or incarcerated, because they are robbing this country and the taxpayers that support it!

I am a Conservative "Anti-Socialist/Anti-Progressive/Anti-C*******t" Patriot of the United States of America, and an Independent V**er. I am not a "hyphenated American," I'm a US citizen! One should support the country in which they live, or go to another country that they can support! I SUPPORT my country (but just my USA rather than all of the other 33 "Americas" on the two American continents), my USA F**g, my USA National Anthem, the USA's borders, language, and culture, I speak and read English (thanks to my fellow Veterans), and although he should have said 'Make The USA Great Again!,' President Trump! Hell, I even stand up and salute the f**g when they play the National Anthem, and the playing of Taps usually brings a tear to my eye for those who gave their all to protect our Freedom and Constitution! I cannot stand commercial sports and haven't watched any for over 50 years in person or on TV, not because I'm boycotting it, not because some ignorant super-pooper prick of a so-called "professional" athlete and his cohorts disrespected the f**g of my country to promote some petty political grievance, I'm just plain not interested in their Progressive distractions and cartoon shows or even their movies Hollyweed puts out trying to brainwash the sheeple to their C*******t ways. I also know the difference between "Made in USA" and "Made in America," and try valiantly to "Buy USA" if at all possible; and I know the difference between "Immigrant" and "Migrant," as well as the minute difference between an "I*****l I*******t" and an "I*****l A***n!" There is only one group of Immigrants that I can think of that is illegal, and those Immigrants are the ones that have to lie when they take the Oath of Allegiance to the USA due to their religious beliefs that are not compatible with culture of the United States of America, but unlike the I*****l A***ns, they did at least pass through our immigration procedures and have documents to prove it, even though they lied to get them! Neither should be in this country! All US citizens should know this, but they apparently don't, likely because of the "Rules for Radicals" disruptive confusion tactics of the Progressives, along with their i***tology of Political Correctness, which is truly a C*******t mental disorder and a tactic used to control the thoughts and speech of the masses that are contrary to the i***tology of the tyrant in power.

Well, you asked, so I thought I would give you some of my reasons as well. Have a nice day.

My most trusted news source is myself. I have not watched TV in 6 months, used to love Fox News. They are also biased, and slant the information. Now, I have web sites that I read and come to my own conclusions.
I first start reading liberal sites, then conservative sites and then religious sites. After which I think about what I have read on each topic and then make what I hope is the right interpenetration.
This is not me being told what to think, but getting all the information I can to come to what I think the issue really means. Sometimes the end result may not be what I wanted it to be, but facts are facts.