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Oct 10, 2017 22:44:40   #
plainlogic
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
What, exactly, has America done wrong?



It's not what America has done wrong, It's what the politicians have done in your name, my name and every living soul in America.

I'm sorry you don't accept that Seer.. Your loss!

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Oct 11, 2017 00:24:12   #
plainlogic
 
PeterS wrote:
You just elected a billionaire who set up a cabinet made up of more millionaires and billionaires. Wouldn't that make you the one who's accepted a privileged ruling class? You are blaming others for the life that you created.


In a way Pete you are correct, the conservatives have been seeing the tax dollars being given away by the billions, they see billions going to other countries
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/us/politics/obama-c*****e-c****e-fund-3-billion-announcement.html,

all the while people were going hungry here, medical going outside this country to the tune of $50 billion a year.

On top of that, the Tax money that is wasted:
http://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/top-10-examples-government-waste

Not done yet, much less than you care Pete! How about: Swedish massages for rabbits: $387,000 from tax payers pockets
Next:Teaching Mountain Lions to Ride a Treadmill: $856,000. C'mon Pete, you should laugh as you open your wallet a tad more

Next: Studying how many times “hangry” people stab a voodoo doll: $331,000. I know your still laughing, it's all a joke..

Next: Studying the gambling habits of monkeys: $171,000

Next: Producing the children’s musical: Zombie in Love: $10,000

Next: Producing the children’s musical: Zombie in Love: $10,000

Next: Subsidizing Alpaca Poop: $50,000

Next: Synchronized Swimming for Sea Monkeys: $307,524

Next: Produce a “Hallucinatory” Roosevelt/Elvis show: $10,000

Next: Funding C*****e C****e Alarmist Video for Children $5.2 Million

Next: Here, you're the Denier, maybe others would like to see the multi millions the government wastes of their money.

Hold on Pete, there billions more: Tax Division


a. $4.2 billion lost to improper tax refunds issued to identity thieves.

b. $10 million in lost tax revenue by permitting the super-rich to rent their homes for up to two weeks each year tax-free.

c. $4 billion in funding issues to states who improperly achieve a double benefit on federal Medicaid payments.

d. $1.9 million in lost tax revenue attributable to the ill-advised one-year extension of the "Too Tired to Work" credit.

Public Safety Division

a. $3 million to create a snarky social media presence named "Think Again Turn Away" to counter the propaganda movement of terrorist organizations.


c. $335,000 to build 38 "speed humps" (which incidentally, is how six of Adrian Peterson's children were conceived) in two Portland, Maine neighborhoods.

d. $820,000 to determine the impact of public breastfeeding on the rate of car accidents at crowded intersections.
Military Division

a. $1 billion to destroy $16 billion in unneeded purchases of military-grade ammunition.

b. $80 million for the development of a real-life Ironman suit.c. $21 million for the Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild buildings that continue to burn down because of their shoddy construction.

d. $37 million for an initial inquiry as to the total cost for the U.S. to quell rising unrest in the middle East by "having everyone pretend to convert to Islam for a year or two."

5. Animal Division, Round 2.

a. $371,000 to study if mothers loved their dogs as much as their own kids by studying the way their brains responded to pictures of both.


b. $1.97 million in grants to crate a new communication network for "fossil enthusiasts and professionals."

c. $307,000 to study the impact schools of swimming Sea Monkeys have on ocean current.

d. $1.2 million to study whether eating radioactive tuna caused by the Fukushima disaster as part of a balanced meal will provide humans with mild superpowers.

It just get worse, and you enjoy the way Government, that's DemoRATS and the closet DemoRATS in the GOP misuse and abuse the taxpayer always touting, need to raise taxes, not enough money, the Government is going to shut down, yada, yada, yada.

Toid had a piece he read from Pitts. Basically, t***h has no meaning anymore, like you, no amount of factual information, you will never believe but what you want to believe.

Do you, Pete, understand how much $20 Trillion Dollars is?? If you decided to only spend $10,000 a day it would take you 273,972 years to burn through your money. Obama went through it in 8 years.

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Oct 11, 2017 04:27:50   #
Chocura750
 
A lot of these references to seemingly senseless government spending would if examined make sense. They are a lot like a Drudge headnote; when the described news item is read it turns out to be nothing like described.

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Oct 11, 2017 09:24:16   #
debeda
 
Chocura750 wrote:
A lot of these references to seemingly senseless government spending would if examined make sense. They are a lot like a Drudge headnote; when the described news item is read it turns out to be nothing like described.


Sorry but mostly "seemingly senseless" government spending is, in fact, ......sensless! And a HUGE cover for where the money is really going. With the FOIA the government would prefer we the people see them as silly and inept rather than the greedy and sometimes sinister thieves they are

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Oct 11, 2017 09:53:16   #
plainlogic
 
Loki wrote:
Most of Congress are millionaires. There are more millionaire Democrats than Republicans. Nearly 70% of Congress lists their current or former profession as "attorney." A few non-millionaires are elected. I haven't seen any from either side leave public office on the low side of millionaire.
Concerning cabinet members, would you rather have minimum wage burger flippers running the country? There is nothing wrong with making money. Becoming a millionaire on the backs of the taxpayers is a little different.
Most of Congress are millionaires. There are more ... (show quote)



The Millionaires you mention, some may be burger flippers and need to be gone. Like Maxine Waters, madame Pelosi, and the rest of the pimps and prostitutes pimping and prostituting our wealth our policies our constitution.

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Oct 11, 2017 10:05:31   #
plainlogic
 
Chocura750 wrote:
You seem to be saying that Education, Medicine, Drug production, Entertainment, Environment and the Media have been wrecked by Progressives. I don't agree. I live in a modest sized city where the schools are great, the medical care is all I could ask for, the drug makers are all advertising for my business, there are hundreds of channels on my cable, thousands of movies are available instantly, there are well maintained nature trails very close by and the mountains and the seashore a short drive away and there are several national and local news stations which do a great job, and my income is only a touch more than the median adjusted for family size as is done. I don't doubt your sincerity, but I wonder if your view is limited. Some years ago when I had kids in school I was at a luncheon where a parent said that there were no drugs at the Y school where his kids attended, but that at the X school drugs were rampant. Now my kids were going to the X school and it had no drug problem, but some people at the X school thought there was a serious problem at the Y school. I am not saying the country doesn't have problems, but on the whole I don't subscribe to the doom and gloom position. Of course getting shot at a concert sucks, but look at it a little differently 21,000 people were able attend a concert of their choice. If the biographies of the people who were k**led are any indication, they were a wonderful group of people. My advice for you is every day listen to "Be Happy", "Everything will be all right" and "If Jesus says yes who can say no".
You seem to be saying that Education, Medicine, Dr... (show quote)



It's wonderful you're doing well and your family is happy and your family has no problems of what the Government is and has been doing.

Most people on the upper and middle class have a problem with the felonious behavior of the politicians in our elected. How it appears the politicians are causing or have caused the deaths of people who where or might cause them a political problem.

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Oct 11, 2017 17:35:53   #
plainlogic
 
Chocura750 wrote:
A lot of these references to seemingly senseless government spending would if examined make sense. They are a lot like a Drudge headnote; when the described news item is read it turns out to be nothing like described.


Again I'll use this for response. How imperviousChocura is ignorance to corrective fact. It's fully understood that we have entered a new era wherein facts — those things that once settled arguments conclusively — carried all the weight of goose down. These days, you may prove your point to a fare-thee-well, use Fed Gov websites but the skeptical reader will still brush it all aside like a blurry Polaroid of Bigfoot Chocura...

Like the Pentecostal snake handlers, believe everything is fine until you get bit and die.

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Oct 11, 2017 17:58:44   #
plainlogic
 
Chocura750 wrote:
A lot of these references to seemingly senseless government spending would if examined make sense. They are a lot like a Drudge headnote; when the described news item is read it turns out to be nothing like described.



Honestly though Chocura, you say it's seemingly senseless spending. That the bottom line when examined is 180 deg out of phase.

Does this mean the wild spending spree is A.O.K?

Of course, I would like you, to show the substantiated Fed.Gov website that states the spending is what it's not purported to be. Of course I'll understand if there's no response.

I'll remind you, it's unconscionable for the representatives of this Nation, who represent you to be morally straight, honest, with great integrity. They misuse and abuse in your name the vileness they exhibit in your name. What they represent in your name, is this what you really are?

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Nov 7, 2017 23:26:13   #
E
 
Red cloud wrote:
I will not address this to any one particular set of people, you know who you are.
I am truly fed up with being labeled and insulted by the various News services, Op-Ed writers and of course politicians in general. It is obvious that many of you have no idea what life is like outside of your own little circle.
Of course you go out and interview, take polls and the like but really, you have no idea. I’ve watched as you (speaking of labels) yes, you people have systematically torn my country apart.
Education, Medicine, the very social fabric that holds us all together has been destroyed by you. Everything that has made this country great is under attack by you and your ilk.
Of course you are far more educated than we unwashed masses could ever hope to be. We could never understand the deep learning and knowledge that your kind has attained.
This is obvious because we can see the unbridled string of successes you have had in social engineering, diplomacy and all the other hot button issues. I need look no further than the payroll taxes taken from my weekly paycheck to become angry all over again.
So here are a few issues that perhaps you could explain your reasoning to me.
A gun is a tool period. I don’t have the free time or the inclination to hunt. If someone is so inclined, great!
If I am doing carpenter work on my farm I will likely use a hammer and a saw. Both are potentially lethal weapons and a danger to the user as well as any bystanders if used incorrectly.
If the Coyote is stealing my chickens or worse threatening my grandchildren I will use a gun to eliminate the threat. I’d rather hope the fence will keep him away, but sometimes they slip through. I h**e to harm anything if there is no need.
Domestic arguments and other disagreements will come and are usually best solved by walking away, cooling off and most of all by love and respect.
Of course we all disagree at times, but to harm or k**l another person is beyond my understanding. Thanks to the moral breakdown that, really, you have helped to create, well bullets are flying!
You say we cling to our religion and guns? Until you can prove me wrong, I will trust in a divine creator, and a 12 gauge to guard my animals and my family. At times there may be no one else to call. This should not be an issue with you, since you tell me we are nothing more than a mass of cells evolved from a ____? Well wh**ever it was. Be sure to let me know when you come up with the answer to that question please, maybe I’m wrong on this one.
Meanwhile I will believe in my “fairytale” God.
You say we are unlearned, stupid? But then I see you seem to be a little short on answers yourself! It is said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Was it Goebbles that said if you repeat a lie loud enough and long enough, it becomes the t***h?
Does it ever occur to you there is another life outside of your little world? Not everyone is really interested in all your ideas and theories.
Can you even understand the cycles of tides and moons, how do all the animals live? How do the plants grow? Where does your food come from? If the store and restaurant is closed – what will you eat?
Can you fix things and solve problems? Again, I’m looking at your track record here. I see a big no here.
Cause and effect
Oh Yea and instead of trying to control animal our instincts you would tell me anything goes? You tell me things that are un-natural are perfectly normal? The lengths you will go to convince me of these things would be comical – if they weren’t so deadly serious to folks. Instead of setting boundaries you say follow our feelings. After all of that you come up with some really cockamamie excuses as to why these actions have undesirable consequences. Your teaching has destroyed our families and yes, in our ignorance or because maybe we got lazy, we have allowed you to train our children according to your wishes. Nice job!
You would have us all live in a plastic world. A plastic ,make believe world that you have created and of course you must rule over. A world where everyone is a winner and no one gets hurt. Well, except for a few undesirables. We can’t make an omelet without cracking a few eggs now can we?
Your entertainment and pharmaceutical industries will keep us numb so we don’t ask too many questions. No need for us to think for ourselves, no need to take responsibility for our lives. Your desire is to make us weak servants to you, the rulers.
Why have you given away our technology and our industries?
Why would you expect me to accept another privileged ruling class in this country after my ancestors fought to o*******w a King?
Why have you made my money worthless? And make me a s***e to your system at the same time?
I think I know the answer to these questions , but it would be nice to hear what you have to say.
Yes it is true, this country has done some terrible things – but why can’t you mention all the good things we have done as well? Why must you continue to fan the flames of hatred?

That’s all I have for right now,
Shalom!
I will not address this to any one particular set ... (show quote)


Four posts and you hit the nail on the head. Welcome to OPP. Look forward to more wisdom from you. Read the majority of the posts and you will see a lot of t***hs. Read PeterS and ... Well, there is no excuse for PeterS and you will read a lot of his posts. He will defend anything from the last president, Hilliary Clinton and the Democrat/C*******t/Socialist party. And we will call him on it when we are in the mood, because certain kinds of crap need to be disputed and he gives us so many opportunities. Meanwhile, enjoy and sit back and get some good reads.

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Nov 7, 2017 23:37:24   #
PeterS
 
E wrote:
Four posts and you hit the nail on the head. Welcome to OPP. Look forward to more wisdom from you. Read the majority of the posts and you will see a lot of t***hs. Read PeterS and ... Well, there is no excuse for PeterS and you will read a lot of his posts. He will defend anything from the last president, Hilliary Clinton and the Democrat/C*******t/Socialist party. And we will call him on it when we are in the mood, because certain kinds of crap need to be disputed and he gives us so many opportunities. Meanwhile, enjoy and sit back and get some good reads.
Four posts and you hit the nail on the head. Welco... (show quote)

Oh my god, I defend my parties positions. How could I ever be guilty of such sin?

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Nov 7, 2017 23:46:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh my god, I defend my parties positions. How could I ever be guilty of such sin?
Yeah, you are a real hard core party apparatchik, aren't you? To hell with the nation, just toe the party line.

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Nov 8, 2017 00:26:00   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, you are a real hard core party apparatchik, aren't you? To hell with the nation, just toe the party line.

To hell with the nation? I haven't seen you stand against anything in your party--especially the maggot you helped to elect. People who live in glass houses shouldn't be the first to throw stones Blade. Careful, I know how to throw them back!

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Nov 8, 2017 01:56:24   #
E
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh my god, I defend my parties positions. How could I ever be guilty of such sin?


Sounds more like a street gang to me. Party? I defend right and wrong. You defend your party, right or wrong. And if you can't see the difference, your a lost soul and there is no help for you. Pity. There are to many Democrats that can't see that difference as they try to steer that party into extreme socialism and eventually c*******m. Neither works. And it will only ruin America and turn us into a minor country with more weapons then anyone. What is your real goal? A bigger and more powerful North Korea? Pathetic. We're for freedom for everyone to reach their own potential if that is their goal, but the right to live free. You're party seems to want to subjugate everyone. You've already created it with most b****s and you're now working on the immigrants. And when they get what they want, they'll dump you as a pathetic little useless pawn. And your family with you.

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Nov 9, 2017 16:53:44   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh my god, I defend my parties positions. How could I ever be guilty of such sin?


That is your main problem. You defend their position without ever checking what it does for the average tax paying person.

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