Docadhoc wrote, "No country on earth with socialized or national health care is anywhere near the population of America and like it or not, the cost rises exponentially. Double the population coverage costs much more than double the cost and America is as much as 5--10x the population of some of these countries being used as models."

Hmm...perhaps I should rephrase my question. I don't mean to ask for any justification of your authority to make the statement, "the cost rises exponentially". Being a Doc ad hoc (for this) might be justification enough. But what I would like to know are, what medical, economic, political, etc. factors support your statement?

I can think of a few economic ideas that might support (supply and demand) and some that might oppose (economies of scale).

V**e no on what? The repeal of Obamacare? Obamacare itself? We don't get to v**e on the new healthcare bill. Congress does. Are you asking us to contact our representatives to give our opinion? Obamacare was passed without my v**e and certainly without my approval. Please, Gracie, don't be under the delusion that Obamacare is out there to give you healthcare. It doesn't. Men and woman in the healthcare industry give you healthcare, not government bureaucrats. Government doesn't tax you to give you services, it gives you services to tax you and have power over you. The free market in healthcare is what has made your debilitating disease tolerable. Government's intrusion into healthcare is what is going to make everyone's misery equal.

People have accused me of lacking empathy over my opinion of Obamacare. Nothing could be farther from the t***h. My empathy just happens to extend to everyone. I don't think it is my place to steal your money and give is to my daughter (who, by the way, also suffers not one but two debilitating illnesses) nor do I think it your place to do the same to me.

Anyone who thinks socialized medicine is a good idea need only look to the socialists states of the world to see the result of their ideas. Do some research. Find out the survive-ability of persons in your predicament in, say, Venezuela or Cuba. You most likely would not have survived childhood, or perhaps even birth.

Yeh I'm treated for it. I have to a Dr for every system in my body. It's hard. It is a invisible illness which makes it more difficult for ppl to understand. It is call EDS. There are many types that overlap w others. It affects my heart and I have dislocations. Along w CVS. Not the pharmacy. Cycling Vomiting syndrome. It is awful. Affects my joints ,bones, spine, veins, bp, etc..all connective tissue. Just to get started. They say wheelchair & help in home. I say I'll crawl 1st. I do know 1 day it will happen. It is autoimmune so it will wear me dwn. My body is that of a 70 yr old and I'm only 47. Can't change it. Just try to spread Elhers Danlos Syndrome awareness . thanks for asking.
Take Care.

V**e no on what? The repeal of Obamacare? Obamacare itself? We don't get to v**e on the new healthcare bill. Congress does. Are you asking us to contact our representatives to give our opinion? Obamacare was passed without my v**e and certainly without my approval. Please, Gracie, don't be under the delusion that Obamacare is out there to give you healthcare. It doesn't. Men and woman in the healthcare industry give you healthcare, not government bureaucrats. Government doesn't tax you to give you services, it gives you services to tax you and have power over you. The free market in healthcare is what has made your debilitating disease tolerable. Government's intrusion into healthcare is what is going to make everyone's misery equal.

People have accused me of lacking empathy over my opinion of Obamacare. Nothing could be farther from the t***h. My empathy just happens to extend to everyone. I don't think it is my place to steal your money and give is to my daughter (who, by the way, also suffers not one but two debilitating illnesses) nor do I think it your place to do the same to me.

Anyone who thinks socialized medicine is a good idea need only look to the socialists states of the world to see the result of their ideas. Do some research. Find out the survive-ability of persons in your predicament in, say, Venezuela or Cuba. You most likely would not have survived childhood, or perhaps even birth.