I just wanted to say hello 👋 (Page 2): Government and insurance companies are at the root of all problems. Go back seventy-five years, before government and insurance companies became...

Richard Rowland

Kevyn wrote:

The entire medical community is against the current bill. Not a single medical care organization support it and yet the republicans in the senate were ready to ram it through. The bill did nothing but l**t money from health care so it can be pissed away on tax cuts for the wealthy.

Government and insurance companies are at the root of all problems. Go back seventy-five years, before government and insurance companies became the behemoths they are today. I realize it's naive to compare those days with today, however, things could be less costly and complicated if the desire is there to make them so.

Reading a piece in our local paper last evening, I learned that for some reason, many rural hospitals and healthcare providers are unable to receive the discount for medications and drugs that larger facilities are able to obtain.

One issue was a costly stroke medication that is imperative for recovery if received in a timely fashion. The healthcare provider indicated, due to the inability to receive price discounted medication that, their facility could only afford to keep one pill on hand at a time. The hospital pharmacist is concerned about a possible situation of two-stroke victims and only one pill.

I don't recall the government program the discounts fall under, but I'm almost certain that a lobbyist had something to do with the rural facilities being denied access to the discounted medication. And, herein lies the problem, we have too many lobbyists working the halls of Congress.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Kevyn wrote:

The entire medical community is against the current bill. Not a single medical care organization support it and yet the republicans in the senate were ready to ram it through. The bill did nothing but l**t money from health care so it can be pissed away on tax cuts for the wealthy.

Irrelevant to my post. Try your nonsense on someone else who may be less informed than I.

You intimate 20M people should rest easier. I said you are an i***t who pukes disinformation and tries to blame your lies on Trump and the right.

Pick a subject you understand and be germane to the posts you respond to instead of trying to shift focus.

Better yet, shut.up and move to NK.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Um, docadhoc you are asking a lot. There is no subject he understands.

Docadhoc wrote:

Irrelevant to my post. Try your nonsense on someone else who may be less informed than I.

You intimate 20M people should rest easier. I said you are an i***t who pukes disinformation and tries to blame your lies on Trump and the right.

Pick a subject you understand and be germane to the posts you respond to instead of trying to shift focus.

Better yet, shut.up and move to NK.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

JFlorio wrote:

Um, docadhoc you are asking a lot. There is no subject he understands.

That is the only.thing he's proven.

Kevyn

dangerkitten061 wrote:

Kevyn, you are either an out an out liar or completely ignorant. Either way you are a danger to everyone around you. Crawl back to mommies basement and shut up, nobody in their right mind listens to you!

asswipe, list one medical care group promoting this mutant legislation. The AMA, American cancer society, lung association AARP, MS society and Muscular dystrophy associations all realize this screws sick Americans and oppose it. Wake up you clueless sheep.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Welcome, Gracie. Enjoy, as best you can, your journey with OPP'ers.

acknowledgeurma

Docadhoc wrote:

Congress will not exclude the extremists because t... (show quote)

Docadhoc wrote, "No country on earth with socialized or national health care is anywhere near the population of America and like it or not, the cost rises exponentially. Double the population coverage costs much more than double the cost and America is as much as 5--10x the population of some of these countries being used as models."

Hmm..."the cost rises exponentially"? Where did you get this idea?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

acknowledgeurma wrote:

Docadhoc wrote, "No country on earth with socialized or national health care is anywhere near the population of America and like it or not, the cost rises exponentially. Double the population coverage costs much more than double the cost and America is as much as 5--10x the population of some of these countries being used as models."

Hmm..."the cost rises exponentially"? Where did you get this idea?

Would the word "disproportionately" sound better to you?

Where did I get this idea? 45+ years of working in the industry. Where do your ideas originate?

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

Richard Rowland wrote:

Government and insurance companies are at the root of all problems.

Tort Is
Without Tort Reform
There Can Never Be Meaningful Heath Care Reform

Btw:
I Had A House Call Doctor's Visit As Late As 1964...

PeterS

Graciegirl143 wrote:

Hello everyone,
I'm a new user. I have a rare degenerative genetic illness that I was born with. I'm worried about healthcare. I definitely hope the new healthcare bill gets squashed. Please help people like me with chronic illnesses & other's. V**e NO. Please help those who are impacted by these terrible storms.
Nice to meet u all.

Welcome Gracie, hope you enjoy your time here...

PeterS

JFlorio wrote:

Welcome. I pay for this stinking Obamacare so please help me. My premium is more than my house payment was. I'm also in Florida and didn't ask for anyone else's help to clean up. Thankfully not much damage. If you were born with this disorder how did you survive before the ACA?

So drop your coverage, save your premium, and cover yourself.

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

PeterS wrote:

So drop your coverage, save your premium, and cover yourself.

16 Million Forced Into ACA Will
As Soon As The Opportunity Presents Itself

Then We'll Be Back To The 7-8 Million Dems And The ACA
Screwed Everything Up For Every One Else To 'Save'

Dems Invent A 'Crisis' To Show How Much They Care
Then Make It Into A Crisis That Can Never Be Fixed

meridianlesilie Loc: mars

Graciegirl143 wrote:

Hello everyone,
I'm a new user. I have a rare degenerative genetic illness that I was born with. I'm worried about healthcare. I definitely hope the new healthcare bill gets squashed. Please help people like me with chronic illnesses & other's. V**e NO. Please help those who are impacted by these terrible storms.
Nice to meet u all.

hi gracie sorry to hear about your health problem .i say we all need a GOOD HEALTH PLAN!!!!!!! i think everyone should not charge so much for helping people
i remember in 1984 & on till 1999 i could go to my doctor & he would charge about 30.00$ now it is i bet 150.00 & up & sometime they dont do that much
by they charge the doc i go to i only have to pay 5.00$ for the visit the insurance pays the rest ..the system is getting greedier & do not really care about the patient my old doc pasted away i think in 2001 ...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

PeterS wrote:

So drop your coverage, save your premium, and cover yourself.

If I drop coverage stupid I still have to pay a fine. Why don't you crawl back ln your hole that I'm sure someone else pays for parasite.

meridianlesilie Loc: mars

Graciegirl143 wrote:

Hello everyone,
I'm a new user. I have a rare degenerative genetic illness that I was born with. I'm worried about healthcare. I definitely hope the new healthcare bill gets squashed. Please help people like me with chronic illnesses & other's. V**e NO. Please help those who are impacted by these terrible storms.
Nice to meet u all.

looks like you are on a good start ...you already started a war way to go ...there already at each others throats thats funny