lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Coming from you, that carries little weight. :P

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

I was just looking too and couldn't find it. It was the preamble to a rather long further introduction and specific positions and the whole thing was titled tea party platform. The rant on Obama as fraud president somewhat surprised me as being so rabid for an officially adopted document but then the whole right wing etremist phenomenon has surprised me. Before running into the OPP I just had a general impression that the tea party was a populist movement, somewhat ignorant but well intentioned and parallel to the populist movement of the pre-Civil War era that was part of Jacksonianism. That was related to my changing to Dem from GOP in 1984 over what I perceived was the Republican Party with Reagan becoming the present-day Jacksonian anti-federalist radical party and the Dems becoming the present-day conservative federalist party (parallel to the Federalist-Whig-Lincoln GOP political line). I chose Federalist over Jeffersonian-Jacksonian Republican-Democrat in my 1954 junior year high school American history class exercise in political choice as the conservative and GOP choice. Somewhat ironic that politics today is still division over proper extent of federal government action but that the terms conservative and liberal have changed application and the two parties have reversed their historical positions on extent of federal government action.

Apologies for not being ablle to refer you to where I read this supposed TP platform the other day--may have been a state or local TP platform? I would imagine the typical TP person is like the typical Republican and Democrat person fairly moderate compared to the fanatics and the pros. OPP postings on the other hand show the far-out side of the extreme right...to my astonishment at first encounter.

Loki Loc: Georgia

There are a couple of national TEA Party groups that are giving the rest of us a bad name. I have included a link from the Daily Caller, which is a conservative site. These are not, I don't believe, representative of what the TEA Party stands for, but do give those opposed to us plenty of ammo.




http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/13/tea-party-groups-are-making-and-spending-millions-but-not-on-candidates/

Ve'hoe

Oh,,, sorry,,,, Cruz, probably Lee,,, but definitely NOT ryan,,,,

They are indeed politicians,,, but they are Republicans, who support the Tea party platform,,, there are NO TEA PARTY candidates supported totally by the tea party.

However as the power base grows there will be. I went to some rallys and meetings,,, and I was impressed,,, I have not joined but I think I will. They are maligned by the press and the institutions of both parties, but I found that what was said about them is not true. They are not r****t, fat white men, they are not particularly "angry" but they are damned s**k of the way Washington has screwed us. And they intend, peacefully, to correct it.
What is wrong with that,,, anything less, has proven over and over again, to maintain the status quo of power brokering corruption.

Ve'hoe

That's ok,,, a lot of interaction, (on OPP) forces the polarization, or maybe it clarifies your/my point,, but what has been made abundantly clear to me over those same years, is that straddling the fence is not working. The corrupt grow in power. I find a lot of common ground with lib stances,, "The rich are getting richer, at our expense" but you cannot deny that the Dems are the party of the rich,,, they have the most (2/3's) of the millionaires in congress/senate,,, you cannot pay one criminal to protect you from another,,,, B****s,,, got screwed and are being bent over again,, by Dems,, and a Black President!!! WTF??

Republicans, when it was their turn,,, did the same GD thing!!

Check out some normal Tea Party folks in your area,,,, they are a little paranoid (due to NSA et al) but they kind of have a right,, I found they were much more normal than the media portrayal of them... the media lies.

I saw a scandal yesterday about some news anchors who were lying about a anti-homosexual "open letter" THAT THEY MADE UP!!!! The whole thing was phony,, done only for ratings and to ramp up the hatred.

I really think that if normal joes/janes come together and discuss what "Actually" is happening, that the Washington DC crowd is in big trouble, and should be mostly jailed for the stealing and lying they have done purportedly "on our behalf"

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

See, I did not know that. That would mean that some folk have hijacked the tea party to get v**es, then misrepresented. I happened to like many of the tea party ideas but was flummoxed by the behavior of the people I THOUGHT were representing them. Now I understand.

Ve'hoe

I wouldnt say Lee and Cruz have Hijacked the Tea Party, they are very true to its core beliefs, but the press they get is very one sided, and they are not as bad as their press.

One thing I like about the republicans, and admittedly at this point there isnt a lot, is that People like Cruz and Lee et al are fighting the establishment like Carl Rove, (whose a-- I'd personally like to kick) but in upsetting the establishment of rove, mccain, graham etc they are coming under withering fire. I would like the same amount of balz to be apparent in the Dems but there doesnt seem to be anyone who isnt party line.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

That would take the Dems having a party within a party like the repubs. I understand why they did it, ( the tea party ) because they know the lengths both parties go to shut out any non R non D entities. But it appears that the R leadership don't like the new kids on the block. The red gang is having an internal power struggle. We'll just have to wait and see who survives the beat down.

Ve'hoe

What it would take, is for some in the D party to have some original thought, or enough balz to buck the system, however I understand that bucking the system run by chicago mob and clintons can find you floating Tango Uniform in a swamp somewhere,,, but the dem party is as close to a baseless religious beleif system as they accuse the christians of being.