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Sep 7, 2017 13:13:02   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
But then on the other hand, FEMA can be very selective in who they will help.
As Per This Article
And FEMA's In House Policy Of Separation (FEMA Made It Up) Doesn't Fly
When They Aid Pagan Witch Shop Operations

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Sep 7, 2017 17:26:31   #
E
 
Interesting question. On one hand, should they get relief? On the other hand, they mostly open their doors to house victims during catastrophes and their membership usually contribute mightily to help others in need of relief in time and money. Would you turn away their help during the crisis, food, water, shelter and clothing when needed and then refuse even some minimal help to rebuild after the crisis? Interesting dilemma.

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Sep 7, 2017 17:48:02   #
Big dog
 
E wrote:
Interesting question. On one hand, should they get relief? On the other hand, they mostly open their doors to house victims during catastrophes and their membership usually contribute mightily to help others in need of relief in time and money. Would you turn away their help during the crisis, food, water, shelter and clothing when needed and then refuse even some minimal help to rebuild after the crisis? Interesting dilemma.


I strongly doubt if ANY church asks what a person's religious affiliation is before helping them.

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Sep 7, 2017 19:10:47   #
son of witless
 
Kevyn wrote:
It is criminal to hand over taxpayer money that should go directly to storm victims to crooked televangelists, snake handlers running tent revivals and the hundreds of other film flam men who have been exploiting the superstitious and gullible across the south for a couple of centuries. It is bad enough they fleece their flock, keep our taxpayer money the hell out of their pockets.


Are you saying that all Churches are run by crooks ? I am happy to see your sudden concern over where the taxpayer's money goes. I wish you had shown that same fervor when your hero the Obama directed taxpayer money to Solyndra.

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Sep 7, 2017 19:49:34   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Correct. At least mine never does. We don't ask every Wed. when we feed the homeless.
Big dog wrote:
I strongly doubt if ANY church asks what a person's religious affiliation is before helping them.

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Sep 7, 2017 19:51:48   #
Big Bass
 
son of witless wrote:
Are you saying that all Churches are run by crooks ? I am happy to see your sudden concern over where the taxpayer's money goes. I wish you had shown that same fervor when your hero the Obama directed taxpayer money to Solyndra.




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Sep 7, 2017 21:45:29   #
son of witless
 
Big Bass wrote:
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You can always, I mean always catch a liberal in hypocrisy.

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Sep 8, 2017 00:14:33   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
karpenter wrote:
These Churches Aren't Televangels
And Churches Are Often 'First Responders' To The Needs Of The Displaced
FEMA Is Glad To Use Church Facilities And Parish Help In Their Own Relief Efforts
Didn't You Read The Article ??


But churches worship god who created all evil, including the hurricane Irma!



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Sep 8, 2017 00:23:13   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
But churches worship god who created all evil, including the hurricane Irma!




Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word t***slated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible t***slations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

(2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted r*******n against Him.

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Sep 8, 2017 00:31:42   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
JFlorio wrote:
Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word t***slated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible t***slations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

(2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted r*******n against Him.
Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I ... (show quote)


And the fact remains that you demonic god created evil, no matter what your juvenile excuse is! Or should we not believe the bible and all its words?

Flour has just suggested that all bible veres are open to interpretation!
Flour has just suggested that all bible veres are ...

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Sep 8, 2017 07:41:29   #
son of witless
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
But churches worship god who created all evil, including the hurricane Irma!


Who do you believe in ?

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Sep 8, 2017 08:01:18   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
But churches worship god who created all evil, including the hurricane Irma!
That's Not What FEMA Says Is Their Pretense For Not Helping Churches
Yet They Gladly Use Church's Help And Facilities In Relief Efforts

FEMA's Job Is To Help Disaster Victims
And They Should All Be Helped Equally
Which Is Why FEMA Helps Strip Joints, Adult And Witch's Enterprises
And Anything And Everything Else
...Just Not Churches That FEMA Takes Help From In Relief Efforts

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Sep 8, 2017 08:24:47   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Church and State and separation is true..

The churches are also the ones right out there in times of trouble offering up help just like the rest of us..

Do we abandon them in their time of need simply because they don't pay taxes?? Do we ban assistance to citizens if they didn't pay taxes?? No, we don't so why must we when Churches are in need??

Shouldn't be a political issue although I do understand the reasoning behind it..

Most church members will volunteer their time, money and labor to help their church as it should be as well but I still believe they should be helped if needed..

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Sep 8, 2017 08:27:23   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
G Bush 1 Started That Program That Helps Churches That Help In Their Communities
I Forget What It's Called (Thousand Points Of Light ??)
So FEMA's Separation Pretense Doesn't Hold Water

An Act Of Legislation Is Being Fast-Tracked To Remedy This Situation
But It Doesn't Need A Law,
Because FEMA's Refusal Isn't Mandated By Any Law

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Sep 8, 2017 08:35:32   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
lindajoy wrote:
Do we abandon them in their time of need simply because they don't pay taxes??
Churches Pay Taxes A-Plenty On Everything, Just Like Everyone Else
Just Not Federal Income Taxes, Just Like Over 40% Of Private Residents
So Everyone Needs To Present Their Tax Forms Before Receiving Aid ??

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