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Feb 16, 2014 13:46:12   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
stan3186 wrote:
But when you usurp the Constitution and make the Legislature powerless and non-essential it's the same thing. Effectively, a Dictatorship.


Kevyn has no idea about what a dictatorship is or why it came to be. All he knows is the crap from the far left that means nothing unless we are there or very near, which we are.

When people like Dr. Turley say what he said about Obama's actions there must be something real going on. He is an Obama supporter and v**ed for him but he thinks that Obama has overstepped his Constitutional boundaries. I do wish some of our people, like Kevyn, could lower themselves enough to listen to his words, but then he spoke them on the Kelly File and that keeps them from hearing him say the words.

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Feb 16, 2014 14:53:37   #
stan3186
 
Kevyn wrote:
The constitution has not been usurped, the congress and anyone in the country has access to the courts to make the case otherwise, courts which for the most part are stacked with right wing judges. Do you really think that a dictatorship would allow you to post this crap? or for that matter license an anti government propaganda machine like FOX news? You do not have a clue of what a dictatorship is like to live under.


He hasn't been able to take over completely yet. Wait another 3 years under his majesties dictatorship and we won't be able to post to this forum or speak out loud. Do you really believe that he is not usurping the Constitution when he changes a law with Legislative permission. He is not to make law, just enforce them. Please explain to me what he meant when he said that he has a pen and a phone and will take action when the Congress won't? What do you think that means?
Another thing, if all you can do is call me and others names in your post, then don't post. Disagreeing and arguing are what this forum is about, not calling name like a school yard bully. NO I don't have a clue as to what it is like to live under a dictatorship and I don't want to find out right here at home. Do you have a clue as to what it is like? I was in the military and stationed in a dictator's country, but I followed orders from my superiors which was pretty dictatorial.

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Feb 16, 2014 16:51:37   #
Harpooner1
 
oldroy wrote:
Too many of our people haven't read the Constitution and don't have any idea what it says or why it says things. It was written much more to protect the people than to establish a government. Of course, Obama has violated the document so many times and those who don't know about it still support him but then we know that about 50% of us are being paid to support him now and that makes it rough, but he can be done away with by Congress if we can get rid of enough RINOs and Democrats in November. This e******n is rapidly becoming the most important one of all time because of Obama and the necessity to bring him back under the control of the Constitution.
Too many of our people haven't read the Constituti... (show quote)


Right. And we shall see. Obama has polarized the American people. I don't know of anyone who really likes him and when facts are put before them, they just shrug and say, " Well, he is president.."...F*** him! The man is a dolt. He has no shame, no honor, and when he swore his oath of office, he was lying then just as he lies now. Informed people know what he is and it is bad for America. Other than the stock market, everything that Obama can point to as a success has been a dismal failure. I have never seen such a corrupt president and administration. never.

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Feb 16, 2014 17:01:18   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
Right. And we shall see. Obama has polarized the American people. I don't know of anyone who really likes him and when facts are put before them, they just shrug and say, " Well, he is president.."...F*** him! The man is a dolt. He has no shame, no honor, and when he swore his oath of office, he was lying then just as he lies now. Informed people know what he is and it is bad for America. Other than the stock market, everything that Obama can point to as a success has been a dismal failure. I have never seen such a corrupt president and administration. never.
Right. And we shall see. Obama has polarized the A... (show quote)


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Feb 17, 2014 09:15:15   #
Donmac Loc: Lincoln, RI
 
This administration and Obummer have been acting as tho they have the right to do, as O said, wh**ever we want. How is this not the action of a dictatorial attitude? He is acting beyond his right as the Executive branch allows....

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Feb 17, 2014 09:24:07   #
stan3186
 
Donmac wrote:
This administration and Obummer have been acting as tho they have the right to do, as O said, wh**ever we want. How is this not the action of a dictatorial attitude? He is acting beyond his right as the Executive branch allows....


All of that is true. But you forget the primary things as to why we are putting up with it. He is Black. Otherwise, he would have already been kicked out of office and the MSM would be all over his ass, but they are afraid of being called r****t.
Like it or not, that is the primary reason. It's the primary reason he was elected and the reason he is till in office.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:10:32   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
stan3186 wrote:
All of that is true. But you forget the primary things as to why we are putting up with it. He is Black. Otherwise, he would have already been kicked out of office and the MSM would be all over his ass, but they are afraid of being called r****t.
Like it or not, that is the primary reason. It's the primary reason he was elected and the reason he is till in office.


Have you heard what Ann Coulter said about impeachment? She said to Judge Jeannine that he will never be impeached because he is black and our first black president. People do fear being called r****t for pushing for impeachment. I was called that within his first week in office since I never did want him to be our president.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:27:56   #
bahmer
 
oldroy wrote:
Have you heard what Ann Coulter said about impeachment? She said to Judge Jeannine that he will never be impeached because he is black and our first black president. People do fear being called r****t for pushing for impeachment. I was called that within his first week in office since I never did want him to be our president.


I wish people would stop calling him black he is not black except in appearance only. He is half white and then only 1*6 black with the rest being Arabic. So the correct statement would be he is half white half Arabic with a minor in black.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:41:45   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
bahmer wrote:
I wish people would stop calling him black he is not black except in appearance only. He is half white and then only 1*6 black with the rest being Arabic. So the correct statement would be he is half white half Arabic with a minor in black.


But most of the people who v**ed for him really believed he was half and half and black was his main part to them.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:44:15   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Kevyn wrote:
The simple t***h is that president Obama has used executive orders at a slower rate than other modern presidents. This is just another teabagger broken record whine off about nothing.


So, Jonathon Turly is now a teabagger - Obamaism now requires you folks to eat one of what used to be your own.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:46:29   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Kevyn wrote:
The constitution has not been usurped, the congress and anyone in the country has access to the courts to make the case otherwise, courts which for the most part are stacked with right wing judges. Do you really think that a dictatorship would allow you to post this crap? or for that matter license an anti government propaganda machine like FOX news? You do not have a clue of what a dictatorship is like to live under.


Youra assertion that the courts are stacked with right wing judges is about the best evidence one can find that you are a far out left wing nut.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:41:40   #
stan3186
 
Dave wrote:
Youra assertion that the courts are stacked with right wing judges is about the best evidence one can find that you are a far out left wing nut.

That is so true, Obama has stacked the Washington DC federal appeals court with left wing Democrats. That is the court that most appeals come before. He has stacked the most influential court with left wing extremist.

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Feb 17, 2014 18:03:15   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Dave wrote:
Youra assertion that the courts are stacked with right wing judges is about the best evidence one can find that you are a far out left wing nut.


Now isn't that the t***h?

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Feb 17, 2014 18:04:34   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Dave wrote:
So, Jonathon Turly is now a teabagger - Obamaism now requires you folks to eat one of what used to be your own.


Naw, Turley is just a lefty who has seen the light and wants things to be righted before it is too late.

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Feb 17, 2014 18:41:13   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
Roy, there is a lack of will in the Republicans, I do see this. But, most Americans do not want want Obama is foisting on the people. It is a game of power. Obama is a useless president. But people like him. Why? I have no idea. He is a pile of sh** . I would not be proud to have him as a friend. But, getting back to the issues at hand, the congress has to go back to basics. Impeach. start it now and let the American people know that this jackass and his administration has got to go. The Constitution does mean everything to this nation. And obama has defied the laws....Bring him to a true Justice. He has betrayed America.
Roy, there is a lack of will in the Republicans, I... (show quote)


Harpooner1-believe many of us feel exactly as you do and would like to have the president impeached. However, to do so at this time would not serve any useful purpose and be viewed as a dog and pony show. The Senate, under Reid, will never convict Obama so we will have spent precious time and borrowed money to put on a trial which will result in acquittal . Better to wait until Nov to see if republicans can regain the Senate before attempting impeachment. With control of both houses of congress the republicans would be in a position to curb funding for those executive orders which require same. Do not know how you stop him from ignoring the constitution and changing laws to suit his warped agenda. Good Luck America !!!

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