3 x 4 = 11 Common Core explains how that can be.
oldroy wrote:
Actually they care not what the answer a kid gives but want to know how he explains his reasoning. There is no other answer to 3 x 4 than 12 and no amount of reasoning can change that. Yes, they don't want kids to memorize multiplication or division tables. I remember that part of my early learning and wonder if I was just that much smarter than other kids since it was so easy for me and made so much sense.
Speaking of that do you know many people who just can't count change in a business. They just take out what the machine tells them and hand it to you in one lump, kind of like their brains must be. I remember a young girl counting my change back about 15 years ago and asking her how she did that. She said my aunt insists I do it that way. The young girls in that mom and pop fast food store still count it out that way.
Actually they care not what the answer a kid gives... (
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The McDonald's worker who says that don't have half dozen McNuggets, they have six or twelve.
rumitoid wrote:
Very clever. Yours?
Wish I could take credit for it. I heard it years ago in solid state training.
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
rumitoid wrote:
The McDonald's worker who says that don't have half dozen McNuggets, they have six or twelve.
Did you try to order that way or are you kidding? If it is the latter you did it pretty good.
autocthon wrote:
Just remember: there are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Yep that's pretty funny and correct.
oldroy wrote:
We don't so much are about the answer kids get as much as how they got that answer. If they can explain in in a logical manner it is okay.
I guess this would be something like 4 + 4+ 3 = 11. I wonder if this would be acceptable.
Common core = dumbing down to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0VxxoCrNoThe teacher clearly said that the correct answer would be given to the student if he couldnt logically figure it out. Having students show their work to get their answer has been in practice since I took college prep courses in high school, um
some time ago. This mathematical logic comes in handy as you get into things like physics, engineering and software programming. We wouldnt have the advance military technology that protects our country today or even the cars we drive without this kind of education. This youtube video does seem to highlight that the wrong answer is overlooked. However, if you have taken science and advanced math courses, you would know that this video seems to leave out that the students logic is as important as his correct answer.
The results of practicing mathematical logic is shown in following videos. Videos starts easy to some more advanced examples . If you think this is dumbing down, you are a much smarter person than most of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBTTRwpJWi0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBTTRwpJWi0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7yXoNAg3J8
oldroy wrote:
Those old women who taught me my early math instructions in the late 30s and early 40s must have really been good teachers. They found time to teach math memorization and how to do the work and at the same time they found time to teach us to spell. I guess they didn't have to spend as much time in college pr********n on socialist ideology as today. Hell, most of them only went to 2 years of college.
I heard that, goes to show you that a higher education doe not make them better teachers.
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
Vacaman wrote:
I heard that, goes to show you that a higher education doe not make them better teachers.
Progs need to check out what is being taught by progs in the universities of today. It isn't math, English, or science only since they are teaching their ideology also. Poor kids really do get screwed with these things.
oldroy wrote:
Progs need to check out what is being taught by progs in the universities of today. It isn't math, English, or science only since they are teaching their ideology also. Poor kids really do get screwed with these things.
When I went to college, I recall professors had free reign to share their political views. My Son-in-Law is going to college to become an Accountant, and his conservatives teachers freely share their politics also. My point is both political sides seem to have been able to share their perspectives for some time now at colleges and Universities. Do you want to change this in some way?
Art wrote:
When I went to college, I recall professors had free reign to share their political views. My Son-in-Law is going to college to become an Accountant, and his conservatives teachers freely share their politics also. My point is both political sides seem to have been able to share their perspectives for some time now at colleges and Universities. Do you want to change this in some way?
I would only suggest that the content be as unbiased as possible and related to subject taught. I have never experienced a conservative professor. I suppose it depends on the school location.
Vacaman wrote:
I would only suggest that the content be as unbiased as possible and related to subject taught. I have never experienced a conservative professor. I suppose it depends on the school location.
I think in principal, your idea sounds like a good one, but the flaw I see is how could there be some oversight that governs with out biases? I suppose that could be worked out, and you are welcome to comment further on that.
My personal experience with family and college education seemed to work out fine. In Public schools, location of where we lived determined our education. College was about freedom of choice.
My niece chose to go to a culturally conservative christian college, (she is mostly conservative) my Son went to a Conservative undergraduate and a Liberal graduate University. (he still a conservative). Daughter went to a Liberal undergraduate and graduate school. (she is liberal).
I think the most important thing to me, regardless of the colleges political culture was that they got the education they needed to be successful and I believe that happened. I'm happy how things are now with the diversity of political cultures in collages and universities and the freedom to choice which one to go to.
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