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3 x 4 = 11 Common Core explains how that can be.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:54:11   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
We don't so much are about the answer kids get as much as how they got that answer. If they can explain in in a logical manner it is okay.

I guess this would be something like 4 + 4+ 3 = 11. I wonder if this would be acceptable.

Common core = dumbing down to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0VxxoCrNo

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Feb 16, 2014 13:04:52   #
67p5065
 
oldroy wrote:
We don't so much are about the answer kids get as much as how they got that answer. If they can explain in in a logical manner it is okay.

I guess this would be something like 4 + 4+ 3 = 11. I wonder if this would be acceptable.

Common core = dumbing down to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0VxxoCrNo


When you are right you are right . How about your boss use that method to write your pay check

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Feb 16, 2014 13:17:56   #
jeff smith
 
If I were still a parent with children in school I'd take them out and find someone to home school them. Every school district that uses common core the administration should be FIRED.

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Feb 16, 2014 13:57:32   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
jeff smith wrote:
If I were still a parent with children in school I'd take them out and find someone to home school them. Every school district that uses common core the administration should be FIRED.


The State legislatures accepted Common Core for the money held out to them in the carrot and stick approach. Maybe we need to blame the right people and that would be those legislators. School districts are controlled by the legislatures, or were up to the No Child Left Behind era. I don't like anything about Common Core and sure didn't like its predecessor that I was against from the beginning.

This whole thing has been a huge movement toward central control of schools from DC. The State people have given in because of a handful of money and control of schools has slipped away from individual districts because of money.

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Feb 16, 2014 13:59:14   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
67p5065 wrote:
When you are right you are right . How about your boss use that method to write your pay check


That boss, the federal government, will soon be writing those checks instead of giving it to the states for them to write checks from. Only stupid, uneducated people can accept the explanation given those teachers in that video by the representative of that federal government.

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Feb 16, 2014 14:01:16   #
67p5065
 
oldroy wrote:
That boss, the federal government, will soon be writing those checks instead of giving it to the states for them to write checks from. Only stupid, uneducated people can accept the explanation given those teachers in that video by the representative of that federal government.


I agree with you 100% all about control nothing else .

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Feb 16, 2014 14:17:52   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
oldroy wrote:
We don't so much are about the answer kids get as much as how they got that answer. If they can explain in in a logical manner it is okay.

I guess this would be something like 4 + 4+ 3 = 11. I wonder if this would be acceptable.

Common core = dumbing down to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0VxxoCrNo


As I am math challenged, does this mean my belief 2 + 2 is 5 is now correct? :roll: :lol:

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Feb 16, 2014 14:37:51   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
AuntiE wrote:
As I am math challenged, does this mean my belief 2 + 2 is 5 is now correct? :roll: :lol:


If you can explain, acceptably, how you got your answer teachers who are going with Common Core say you are right. They don't worry about the answer just how you got it.

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Feb 17, 2014 02:07:50   #
Vacaman
 
No worries, Common Core will be replaced with something else as soon as it fails. My assumption is that teachers either are incapable of or lack the time constraints to teach mathematical memorization. Seriously how much explaining is there to do with a basic math problem. I would h**e to ask them to spell? That would be cruel!

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Feb 17, 2014 15:17:20   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Vacaman wrote:
No worries, Common Core will be replaced with something else as soon as it fails. My assumption is that teachers either are incapable of or lack the time constraints to teach mathematical memorization. Seriously how much explaining is there to do with a basic math problem. I would h**e to ask them to spell? That would be cruel!


Those old women who taught me my early math instructions in the late 30s and early 40s must have really been good teachers. They found time to teach math memorization and how to do the work and at the same time they found time to teach us to spell. I guess they didn't have to spend as much time in college pr********n on socialist ideology as today. Hell, most of them only went to 2 years of college.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:48:42   #
rumitoid
 
oldroy wrote:
We don't so much are about the answer kids get as much as how they got that answer. If they can explain in in a logical manner it is okay.

I guess this would be something like 4 + 4+ 3 = 11. I wonder if this would be acceptable.

Common core = dumbing down to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0VxxoCrNo


H**e to burst your bubble here but the woman said, "Even IF they said 3x4=11, as long as they could explain their reasoning..." Her point is about getting explanations about calculations in Common Core texts.

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Feb 17, 2014 17:26:01   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
rumitoid wrote:
H**e to burst your bubble here but the woman said, "Even IF they said 3x4=11, as long as they could explain their reasoning..." Her point is about getting explanations about calculations in Common Core texts.


Actually they care not what the answer a kid gives but want to know how he explains his reasoning. There is no other answer to 3 x 4 than 12 and no amount of reasoning can change that. Yes, they don't want kids to memorize multiplication or division tables. I remember that part of my early learning and wonder if I was just that much smarter than other kids since it was so easy for me and made so much sense.

Speaking of that do you know many people who just can't count change in a business. They just take out what the machine tells them and hand it to you in one lump, kind of like their brains must be. I remember a young girl counting my change back about 15 years ago and asking her how she did that. She said my aunt insists I do it that way. The young girls in that mom and pop fast food store still count it out that way.

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Feb 17, 2014 17:32:40   #
autocthon Loc: Batcave
 
oldroy wrote:
Actually they care not what the answer a kid gives but want to know how he explains his reasoning. There is no other answer to 3 x 4 than 12 and no amount of reasoning can change that. Yes, they don't want kids to memorize multiplication or division tables. I remember that part of my early learning and wonder if I was just that much smarter than other kids since it was so easy for me and made so much sense.

Speaking of that do you know many people who just can't count change in a business. They just take out what the machine tells them and hand it to you in one lump, kind of like their brains must be. I remember a young girl counting my change back about 15 years ago and asking her how she did that. She said my aunt insists I do it that way. The young girls in that mom and pop fast food store still count it out that way.
Actually they care not what the answer a kid gives... (show quote)



Just remember: there are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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Feb 17, 2014 17:42:07   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
autocthon wrote:
Just remember: there are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.


Now you have some wheels spinning.

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Feb 17, 2014 17:44:43   #
rumitoid
 
autocthon wrote:
Just remember: there are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.


Very clever. Yours?

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