straightUp Loc: California

To be honest (and this is just my own opinion) this country has ALWAYS been divided. We're a melting pot nation... it should be expected. I don't really think there's any "rise" in white nationalism. I think what we are seeing is more exposure to what's always been there. One thing progressive culture did screw up is our resilience. We should be strong enough to walk away from insults, to not be swayed or goaded. But the over-protections of the "Great Society" have allowed our skins to grow thin and now that we have a "president" breaking ranks and encouraging dispute among the people, the offenses appear far more intolerable than they should be.

I think a nation that calls itself "the land of the free" and "home of the brave" should not only be a nation that supports freedom of speech but it should also have the courage to offer it to others we don't agree with... even if it seems threatening. This, for sure applies to all sides. We need thicker skins, we need to understand that Americans come in all colors and creeds and that America has never, EVER been homogeneous or even harmonious. America has in fact always been divided despite the politically correct etiquette that has done so much to hide it.

zombietracker Loc: Fema region 6

Saul Alinski?? You know, Rules for Radicals?? The liberal left handbook??

You need to brush up if you intend to destroy an elected president. Oh that's right, you can't read english

zombietracker Loc: Fema region 6

Lol. Well said

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Very well put. It's not that the "offenses" have not been out there, such as statues (not offensive to me) it's that now different segments of society are easily offended and react irrationally.

straightUp Loc: California

I think Saul Alinsky may be better known on the right than on the left. Rules for Radicals was published in 1971 and was focused on a realistic approach to social change. Some leaders and organizers used it but for the most part the book never achieved "handbook status" the way right wing media likes to portray it and it was mostly lost in the sea of civil rights speeches and left-leaning journalism. The book re-emerged when some leaders in the Tea Party picked it up and saw the relevance to what they were trying to do but also discovered that the contents of the book were just beyond the comprehension of the average Tea Party follower, so it made more sense to just turn the book into a prop for their anti-liberal narrative.

Most people on the right that talk about Rules for Radicals have only read the title and that's all they think they need to know.

I personally recommend the book to all Americans... There is nothing particularly "left wing" about it. It's a book of techniques for affecting change that anyone one on the right can use just as easily as anyone on the left because it's about HOW to change... Not WHAT to change.

Maybe you should try reading it yourself. Maybe if the alt-right read it AND understood it they would learn to be effective instead of just yelling and screaming at rallies and getting nowhere.

straightUp Loc: California

I agree. And it's not just inanimate objects like statues (not offensive to me either) but conflicts of interest and even full on bigotry have always existed under the surface of our politically correct veneer and you're right, many segments of society are too easily offended and act irrationally. But I don't think we can say that about every demographic. I think there are some who's reactions are warranted, especially given the current president's obvious catering to r****t sentiments.

Joe Arpaio for instance is not an inanimate object, he is (or was) a man of authority who has been brutal to immigrants. He has torn families apart and subjected people to conditions the courts deemed inhumane. So pardoning this criminal is sending a message to the American people that the POTUS is OK with the brutal treatment of certain groups. I think those groups have valid reasons to be worried and I don't blame them for reacting the way they do.

Carol Kelly

GLR

DJ, Really? You just have shown us all what it is too obvious you do not know or are too dense to understand. So stop polluting the electrons. Don't go away mad, just go away and be quiet. A lot of us did for the previous 8 years under O'bummer.

zombietracker Loc: Fema region 6

Well said. I have read it thoroughly and that is why I know the c*******t techniques taught in the book are what A****a, B*M, ows, et al, are using to take over American values and traditions.

Maybe you should reread it...unless you are already a c*******t.

zombietracker Loc: Fema region 6

Screaming and yelling at rallies? So far all the yelling, screaming, and violence at Trump rallies, are all from you c*******t fools.

Try to convince someone less informed of the c*******t party tactics next time.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Not the first time you've been wrong. Not the first time your California ethos allows sane folks to shake their heads and wonder if lunacy is in your water supply. Must be California's collusion with Russia to make them try and influence e******ns by shoving i*****l a***ns to the front of your v****g lines. Sick, sick, sick! The whole bloody state is sick and unbalanced. Maybe we should allow Mexico to adopt you- they have already invaded you.

One more thing. Perhaps you might take another look at who is doing all the screaming and shouting and disrupting. And that you don't know the history of Rules for Radicals and both Hillary and Obama's affiliation with this Marxist manifesto and their authors, shows you're not very well informed huh? True or false- "social justice" a term emanating from Marxist philosophy?

son of witless

Did Donald Trump demand execution before or after Yusef Salaam was originally convicted?