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Feb 13, 2014 09:28:39   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
stan3186 wrote:
Tasine, I agree with most everything that you post. You may not be wealthy financially by you are very rich in character and that is to be commended. If more people were to have your attitude this country would be so much better off. I enjoy your post and wish you all the best.

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What a lovely, compliment, Stan. I appreciate it so much. You know something, I don't think many people are capable of thinking "I'm all right. I'm not starving."

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Feb 13, 2014 18:05:32   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Tasine wrote:
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What a lovely, compliment, Stan. I appreciate it so much. You know something, I don't think many people are capable of thinking "I'm all right. I'm not starving."


my wife and I live on my retired E-6 pay plus we both get s/s hers min for 14 years working me reg for 35 years working since I stopper working I have built the largest savings account I have ever had, I quit working in my mid 50s because I wanted to go sailing and I could

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Feb 13, 2014 18:53:07   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
alex wrote:
my wife and I live on my retired E-6 pay plus we both get s/s hers min for 14 years working me reg for 35 years working since I stopper working I have built the largest savings account I have ever had, I quit working in my mid 50s because I wanted to go sailing and I could

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ALL RIGHT!!! You've got it together!!! Kudos!! Keep it up, friend!

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Feb 13, 2014 19:20:34   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Tasine wrote:
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ALL RIGHT!!! You've got it together!!! Kudos!! Keep it up, friend!


thank you.

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Feb 13, 2014 21:34:57   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Tasine wrote:
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In my view and to my knowledge America has no one in poverty, and if it does, that poverty is the result of decisions of the adult. The only possible helpless poverty victims are the children of ignorant parents or the mentally or physically handicapped who have relatives that don't look after their needs. And those are cases that deserve a good and hard investigation and changes made or people arrested for child endangerment.

As to the poor in our country. If they are on welfare, they are not then poor. They probably have as much of most things as they need - same as me. I'm not wealthy, don't have the money for the latest, best, most expensive "things", but I eat well, sleep under a roof, have an electric fan for summer and a wooden pellet stove for winter. I have clothes to wear. I don't do movies, don't do CD music, don't do concerts, don't do drugs, don't drink, don't smoke, don't do rallies, don't do pasture parties, NOR highbrow parties, don't do car or horse or dog races, don't gamble, don't try to outdo friends and neighbors, don't eat out a lot, don't have a huge screen TV. I am not hurting. I maintain those on welfare aren't hurting either EXCEPT via personal choices which so many seem totally incapable of making.

I was taught by my poor (financially) parents, to scorn hand-outs and to NEVER accept a handout, that there was no excuse for taking something for free without GIVING something in return - it didn't have to be a physical something. I still feel that. No one should be handed things EXPECTING it to be totally and absolutely FREE. I understand many of us could use help from time to time, and I understand a few need help all the time - I am not talking about those people. I AM talking about welfare bums. We, our government, has taught, no, PREACHED, that they are ENTITLED to the "free" stuff that others worked to provide. The Democrats try to call this "charity". This is NOT charity. This is graft and theft. I am happy to help those who need help. I am not happy to have GOVERNMENT make those decisions for me and DEMAND I contribute to a program that is managed terribly and wastefully and that contains so much fraud.

Where does poverty come from? It comes from personal decisions. And the number of people in the world today who cannot make good decisions is growing by leaps and bounds - could welfare be the cause of this dumbing down?
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Dumbing down is the cause of welfare...Just as chickens are the eggs way of reproducing themselves.

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Feb 13, 2014 23:35:35   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
Tasine wrote:
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In my view and to my knowledge America has no one in poverty, and if it does, that poverty is the result of decisions of the adult. The only possible helpless poverty victims are the children of ignorant parents or the mentally or physically handicapped who have relatives that don't look after their needs. And those are cases that deserve a good and hard investigation and changes made or people arrested for child endangerment.

As to the poor in our country. If they are on welfare, they are not then poor. They probably have as much of most things as they need - same as me. I'm not wealthy, don't have the money for the latest, best, most expensive "things", but I eat well, sleep under a roof, have an electric fan for summer and a wooden pellet stove for winter. I have clothes to wear. I don't do movies, don't do CD music, don't do concerts, don't do drugs, don't drink, don't smoke, don't do rallies, don't do pasture parties, NOR highbrow parties, don't do car or horse or dog races, don't gamble, don't try to outdo friends and neighbors, don't eat out a lot, don't have a huge screen TV. I am not hurting. I maintain those on welfare aren't hurting either EXCEPT via personal choices which so many seem totally incapable of making.

I was taught by my poor (financially) parents, to scorn hand-outs and to NEVER accept a handout, that there was no excuse for taking something for free without GIVING something in return - it didn't have to be a physical something. I still feel that. No one should be handed things EXPECTING it to be totally and absolutely FREE. I understand many of us could use help from time to time, and I understand a few need help all the time - I am not talking about those people. I AM talking about welfare bums. We, our government, has taught, no, PREACHED, that they are ENTITLED to the "free" stuff that others worked to provide. The Democrats try to call this "charity". This is NOT charity. This is graft and theft. I am happy to help those who need help. I am not happy to have GOVERNMENT make those decisions for me and DEMAND I contribute to a program that is managed terribly and wastefully and that contains so much fraud.

Where does poverty come from? It comes from personal decisions. And the number of people in the world today who cannot make good decisions is growing by leaps and bounds - could welfare be the cause of this dumbing down?
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Very accurate description. Having been raised in an extremely poor single parent family, I was also tough not to take hand outs. But I was tough hard work, thrift, and honesty . There wasn't any welfare or food stamps when I was young, But we managed to have a good life despite being poor. Not many material or worldly goods, but a lot of love and CHURCH....People today think they are poor because they are told by the gov. that they are poor and need all the assistance they get. Hunger is the best cure for laziness.

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Feb 14, 2014 05:59:48   #
stan3186
 
angery american wrote:
Hunger is the best cure for laziness.


I'm sure you are right. I personally haven't experienced true hunger and I don't believe many American have in recent times. We do not have "starving" people in this country. Yes, there are people who don't have much, or make choices of going without food in order to get something else they want. However, I don't believe we have children like they do in other countries (Africa come to mind) that are truly starving to death. At least, I haven't seen any and if I did, I would feed them. I think most American would.

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