DANGER!! RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS ARE COMING!! (Page 2): "Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends , it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to...

pana Loc: are we there yet?

saltwind 78 wrote:

In the second case, there has been no constitutional convention since the original . The reason for this is that people are scared that a constitutional convention could replace some or all of the US Constitution, as they replaced the Articles of Confederation. A proposed amendment doesn't have to reduce the power of the federal government. It can increase that power.

"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [i.e., securing inherent and inalienable rights, with powers derived from the consent of the governed], it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

emarine wrote:

All I have seen is the NRA starting rumors of 2nd Amendment rights issues from day one 09, There have been 3 big pushes causing ammo prices to sky rocket and availability to diminish.... this has caused a knee jerk reaction for the Feds to stock pile ammo and prep for domestic terrorism... guess who has profited from this aggressive marketing ... in America it is always about the money.

Ah, so you think that the huge purchases by the DHS and even the IRS have been caused because of ammo shortages? You are speaking from the left side of your mouth and trying very hard to make people think that taking our guns won't result in something that not many of us want to have happen.

I wonder why ammo wasn't short at most gun dealers till that several billion by DHS. Of course, you don't want to see that it took some time for manufacturers to catch up with federal demand, do you?

You left leaners are all the same about this subject and I hope you never get your way about their confiscation of our guns because I don't want to have to shoot any local policemen who come for mine. Actually, I am not worried about local since our local sheriff is part of a family that has an arsenal at the family house that many consider the headquarters for the fight against progressives and their push in this county.

pana Loc: are we there yet?

oldroy wrote:

Ah, so you think that the huge purchases by the DH... (show quote)

:thumbup: I lost all mine in an unfortunate boating mishap last year. :wink:
Can you imagine. They would be printing more lost gun forms than dollar bills.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Brian Devon wrote:

Considering that half of all Republicans believe that a "citizens" armed i**********n may soon be necessary, it is only prudent that the U.S. government would be prepared. Its the government's job to stop domestic treason and terrorism. I think they made that pretty clear in the 1860s.

Perhaps you can share with us where you gained this great insight about half of the Republicans - was it MSNBC or perhaps it was the DailyKos.

Meanwhile, what happened in the 1860's was something that wouldn't likely repeat itself in the same form - is it became a contest between the conservatives and liberals, don't be too sure where most of those in uniform might be leaning the most.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

pana wrote:

:thumbup: I lost all mine in an unfortunate boating mishap last year. :wink:
Can you imagine. They would be printing more lost gun forms than dollar bills.

I don't boat but I won't admit anything to them unless is traveling at the speed of a speeding bullet, if they come after mine.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

saltwind 78 wrote:

I get sick and tired of hearing about government plans to suspend the Constitution or take over. The Fox News conservatives will say anything no matter how crazy or stupid it sounds, knowing that there are people that actually will listen.

But you don't find someone claiming half of the Republicans favor an armed i**********n troublesome? Selective outrage?

pana Loc: are we there yet?

oldroy wrote:

I don't boat but I won't admit anything to them unless is traveling at the speed of a speeding bullet, if they come after mine.

I don't boat either :wink:

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Dave wrote:

But you don't find someone claiming half of the Republicans favor an armed i**********n troublesome? Selective outrage?

Nice try, Dave. Now I wonder how many progs will see your words and pay any attention to them.

emarine

oldroy wrote:

Ah, so you think that the huge purchases by the DH... (show quote)

The first 2 NRA news letters were out right false, there was no talk of gun control at that point but gun and ammo sales skyrocketed. This was by design and well executed leading to the paranoia we see today... Only fools think you need an arsenal to defend yourself , untrained fools with more money than brains are inherently dangerous.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

emarine wrote:

The first 2 NRA news letters were out right false, there was no talk of gun control at that point but gun and ammo sales skyrocketed. This was by design and well executed leading to the paranoia we see today... Only fools think you need an arsenal to defend yourself , untrained fools with more money than brains are inherently dangerous.

I wonder where you heard that news about NRA letters. I don't get any of them but then I don't read at Media Matters or Think Progess, either. Did you get your info from the actual letters or from some left leaning source?

I bought my first handgun on December 11, 2012 and the mass murder of school children occurred three days later. Now my supplier had plenty of ammo till right after the huge buy by DHS and for a short time he was short on ammo but that didn't last long. He always said that when the government got theirs we would be able to get ours and he was never short for long.

Where did you get that idea?