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Feb 11, 2014 15:47:53   #
Brian Devon
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Maybe you're right,,,

I think Bush should've pulled out all Americans, and turned that God forsaken sand pit into a sheet of glass!!! We wouldn't be dealing with the BS of today.



Yeah, Jesus' favorite saying was let's nuke all the people with whom we have difficulty getting along. We all know if Jesus were alive today that he would be an NRA member whose favorite advice would be, "lock and load". He was not some Marxist girly-man who believed in turning the other cheek...

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Feb 11, 2014 17:49:19   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
I agree with everything except-the right Republicans already have control the Senate through de-facto minority rule. By invoking cloture or a filibuster more times than all previous senates combined, the Senate GOP has stifled up-down majority v**es on everything, including simple debate on an issue.

By doing so, they have shown their contempt for the democratic institutions and have effectively stymied any action at all.

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Boy, we could have used you when Harry Reid totally and completely shut out all Republican voices re the silly Obamacare legislation when over half the country was against it. Then the democratic process could have worked, and the democrats wouldn't hold the ownership of the already failed Obamacare. Putz!

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Feb 11, 2014 20:28:12   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
Tasine wrote:
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Boy, we could have used you when Harry Reid totally and completely shut out all Republican voices re the silly Obamacare legislation when over half the country was against it. Then the democratic process could have worked, and the democrats wouldn't hold the ownership of the already failed Obamacare. Putz!


Yes. Democrats are backing away from Obamacare as fast as they can. This is one case where it is better to get re-elected than follow the Party line. Chickens, every one of them.

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Feb 11, 2014 20:45:52   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
I agree with everything except-the right Republicans already have control the Senate through de-facto minority rule. By invoking cloture or a filibuster more times than all previous senates combined, the Senate GOP has stifled up-down majority v**es on everything, including simple debate on an issue.

By doing so, they have shown their contempt for the democratic institutions and have effectively stymied any action at all.

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Boy, we could have used you when Harry Reid totally and completely shut out all Republican voices re the silly Obamacare legislation when over half the country was against it. Then the democratic process could have worked, and the democrats wouldn't hold the ownership of the already failed Obamacare. Putz!

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Feb 12, 2014 00:25:41   #
The Dutchman
 
Winter Solstice wrote:
You two, The Dutchman and Worried for our Children, have a wonderful gift. That is a great way to ruin a thread.
If you don't have something real to say, keep your fingers off the keyboard.


When that's all the lame duck i***ts puts out how else is one to reply?

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Feb 12, 2014 00:29:52   #
The Dutchman
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Because he has finely awoken to the fact that he fornicated to pooch on this one and wants to delay his way out of it dropping the whole load on what ever poor sucker has to clean up his mess....

Hungry q***r Freaks wrote:
I'm not sure what this incoherent sentence means-and I probably don't want to know.
But you have the gall to criticize others for 'ranting"?


I have no problem believing that someone of your minimal mental capacity would not be able to understand it.

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Feb 12, 2014 00:30:56   #
The Dutchman
 
son of witless wrote:
" Yea...but "Then you agree that he is a stumbling bumbling babbling i***t?

" he's still the President, and you can do nothing about it "

Wrong again Einstein. We can take the Senate back and keep him from doing more harm to America. We can also then hold Senate hearings on all of the Obama scandals since the President has managed to stone wall all of the House hearings.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 12, 2014 00:32:24   #
The Dutchman
 
Tasine wrote:
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There are many vast differences in Reagan and Obama.
1. Reagan loved America. Obama doesn't.
2. Reagan was gracious. Obama isn't. Doesn't know how.
3. Reagan's top priority as President was the US. Obama's top priority is Obama.
4. Reagan was a natural and trained speaker. Obama is a trained "community organizer", AKA "agitator".
5. Reagan was honorable. Obama isn't.

I could go on and on, but no need. Everyone knows what Obama is.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br There are many vast differen... (show quote)


Not to worry Tas, it all went over it's head....

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Feb 12, 2014 00:34:32   #
The Dutchman
 
3jack wrote:
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Yeah....but he's still President and there is nothing you can do about it except talk back and forth with other Obama h**ers. You do not represent the majority of americans. You are but a fringe group of naysayers with no political clout except in those gerrymandered districts drawn up by other i***tic republicans. Even those i***ts are having "buyers remorse" with you tea party morons.

Go ahead, take back the Senate....then you are again stymied because the President has veto power. Go ahead and impeach him...then you have Biden to contend with.

You morons have backed yourselves into a corner and there is no escape. You have to live with 3 more years of Obama, then eight years of Hillary Clinton. By then a lot of you old r****t h**e mongers will be dead and gone and your more tolerant, accepting, and educated kids and grandkids will be more informed about what is actually happening in this country, and casting v**es based on logic and common sense.

So, crawl back into your survival bunker, fly your stupid "Don't Tread on Me" f**g on the outside, clean and polish your guns, count your ammunition, stock up on your Depends, and ensure you have a sufficient supply of batteries to power your AM radio to listen to rush limpbaugh. Then you can sit back and await the inevitable.....the changing face of politics in america.
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Again still the normal liberal rant in here that couldn't understand it screaming their normal crap with nothing to back up their flack

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Feb 12, 2014 06:26:59   #
3jack
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Again still the normal liberal rant in here that couldn't understand it screaming their normal crap with nothing to back up their flack


When you have nothing to rebut what is said, as usual, you throw out a couple of incoherant sentences and think you've said something brilliant. What a stupid loser

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Feb 12, 2014 21:49:47   #
son of witless
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
Actually, the military buildup attributed to Reagan started in the third year of Carter's administration. Take a look at military expenditures during 1978-1988.

As for morals, the administration of Ronald Wilson "deficits don't matter" Reagan saw more of it's officials indicted for crimes than any other administration in the history of the United States. George HW Bush pardoned them all. Even Nixon's band of not-so-merry thieves didn't beat Reagan for indicted and convicted administration members.

And, yes, there's the deaths of 241 marines left without ammo in their rifles due to rules of engagement handed down directly from the White House. Or arms trading with Iran despite a US and International arms embargo against iran. Or the mining of Nicaraguan harbors k*****g West Germany sailors trading with the government of that nation. And so on.

I've never gotten this "moral" Reagan picture. He was third-rate actor who, as president of the screen actor's guild, took money from the studios to settle a labor action by the guild in favor of the studios. He c***ted on his wife, Jane Wyman, and eventually married nancy Davis five months before she gave birth to their first child.

Reagan was a Hollywood hack who made bad war films during WWII yet claimed, falsely, to have been in Germany when the deaths camps were liberated (in a conversation with then Israeli PM M. Begin, who knew Reagan was full of s**t but didn't mention it to Reagan.)

Carter was a Sunday school teacher who lived his faith, and has continued to do so since leaving the presidency. Carter also was a Navy officer who served on nuclear subs and was a protege of Adm. Zumwalt, father of the USA's nuclear sub program.

Jimmy Carter told Americans "we must start living within our means."

Ronald Wilson "deficits don't matter" Reagan said: "you're Americans; you can have anything you want."

The Status of Forces agreement that withdrew US troops from Iraq was signed by George W.Bush in 2008 and carried out by Barak H. Obama in 2009.

You speak of moral decline as if it began on Jan. 21, 2009. The only moral decline I see is the h**e spewed by the rabid right through half-t***hs and outright lies and the de-facto minority rule by Republicans in the Senate by profligate use of the filibuster, more than all previous Senates in the history of the nation. Including Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell's filibuster of his own bill, a first in the history of the nation.

Moral decline? Yeah, it's Obama's fault.
Actually, the military buildup attributed to Reaga... (show quote)


Hungry Freaks,

I like the name, no idea the meaning. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about defending left wingers and slamming Conservatives. That is good because I have an Obama cow chip on my shoulder. And it really stinks.

So lets us talk of Ronnie's deficits and compare them to the Obama's deficits, SHALL WE?

President Reagan had two priorities. First build up the military which went to pot under your boy Jimmy. I had a friend in the Air Force during the reign of Pres.Jimmy and he told me that all of the enlisted men h**ed their Commander in Chief. They were starved for pay under Carter. Their equipment suffered from severe neglect. If the build up you speak of started under Carter it would have only looked good compared to the decline of the previous Carter years. You know what I speak of , right? Kinda like the current unemployment looking really really good only because the first 4 years of Obama really really sucking.

The other priority President Reagan had was reducing taxes. He knew that would revive the US economy. Unlike Obamanomics this actually worked. Now to pay for increased military spending and reducing taxes, President Reagan wanted to cut domestic spending. Unfortunately he had to deal with Tip O'Neal. The kind of spending Reagan wanted to cut was mother's milk to Democrats.

Reagan made deals with Tip. Sometimes it was temporary tax increases in exchange for spending cuts later. Unfortunately while Ronnie was smart enough to never trust the Soviets, he was very trusting with Democrats, who broke their promises on spending cuts.

Contrast that with President Obama. It is Obama who is totally responsible for the big spending because he likes to buy v**es with the public treasury. Republicans in Congress are the ones trying to cut spending.

Now are you really saying that the Marines died because they had no ammunition?

My criticism of President Carter is limited to his Presidency. I've not attacked his military service. He may have been a good President during another time period. But he was the wrong man at the wrong time when he was President.

As far as spewing hatred, hating liars and destructive i***ts is not wrong. Hating them and trying to stop them is a civic duty.

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Feb 12, 2014 22:13:03   #
3jack
 
son of witless wrote:
Hungry Freaks,

I like the name, no idea the meaning. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about defending left wingers and slamming Conservatives. That is good because I have an Obama cow chip on my shoulder. And it really stinks.

So lets us talk of Ronnie's deficits and compare them to the Obama's deficits, SHALL WE?

President Reagan had two priorities. First build up the military which went to pot under your boy Jimmy. I had a friend in the Air Force during the reign of Pres.Jimmy and he told me that all of the enlisted men h**ed their Commander in Chief. They were starved for pay under Carter. Their equipment suffered from severe neglect. If the build up you speak of started under Carter it would have only looked good compared to the decline of the previous Carter years. You know what I speak of , right? Kinda like the current unemployment looking really really good only because the first 4 years of Obama really really sucking.

The other priority President Reagan had was reducing taxes. He knew that would revive the US economy. Unlike Obamanomics this actually worked. Now to pay for increased military spending and reducing taxes, President Reagan wanted to cut domestic spending. Unfortunately he had to deal with Tip O'Neal. The kind of spending Reagan wanted to cut was mother's milk to Democrats.

Reagan made deals with Tip. Sometimes it was temporary tax increases in exchange for spending cuts later. Unfortunately while Ronnie was smart enough to never trust the Soviets, he was very trusting with Democrats, who broke their promises on spending cuts.

Contrast that with President Obama. It is Obama who is totally responsible for the big spending because he likes to buy v**es with the public treasury. Republicans in Congress are the ones trying to cut spending.

Now are you really saying that the Marines died because they had no ammunition?

My criticism of President Carter is limited to his Presidency. I've not attacked his military service. He may have been a good President during another time period. But he was the wrong man at the wrong time when he was President.

As far as spewing hatred, hating liars and destructive i***ts is not wrong. Hating them and trying to stop them is a civic duty.
Hungry Freaks, br br I like the name, no idea the... (show quote)


The real Ronald Reagan

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/05/142288/reagan-centennial/


The Sad Legacy of Ronald Reagan
http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=488

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Feb 12, 2014 22:18:07   #
3jack
 
son of witless wrote:
Hungry Freaks,

I like the name, no idea the meaning. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about defending left wingers and slamming Conservatives. That is good because I have an Obama cow chip on my shoulder. And it really stinks.

So lets us talk of Ronnie's deficits and compare them to the Obama's deficits, SHALL WE?

President Reagan had two priorities. First build up the military which went to pot under your boy Jimmy. I had a friend in the Air Force during the reign of Pres.Jimmy and he told me that all of the enlisted men h**ed their Commander in Chief. They were starved for pay under Carter. Their equipment suffered from severe neglect. If the build up you speak of started under Carter it would have only looked good compared to the decline of the previous Carter years. You know what I speak of , right? Kinda like the current unemployment looking really really good only because the first 4 years of Obama really really sucking.

The other priority President Reagan had was reducing taxes. He knew that would revive the US economy. Unlike Obamanomics this actually worked. Now to pay for increased military spending and reducing taxes, President Reagan wanted to cut domestic spending. Unfortunately he had to deal with Tip O'Neal. The kind of spending Reagan wanted to cut was mother's milk to Democrats.

Reagan made deals with Tip. Sometimes it was temporary tax increases in exchange for spending cuts later. Unfortunately while Ronnie was smart enough to never trust the Soviets, he was very trusting with Democrats, who broke their promises on spending cuts.

Contrast that with President Obama. It is Obama who is totally responsible for the big spending because he likes to buy v**es with the public treasury. Republicans in Congress are the ones trying to cut spending.

Now are you really saying that the Marines died because they had no ammunition?

My criticism of President Carter is limited to his Presidency. I've not attacked his military service. He may have been a good President during another time period. But he was the wrong man at the wrong time when he was President.

As far as spewing hatred, hating liars and destructive i***ts is not wrong. Hating them and trying to stop them is a civic duty.
Hungry Freaks, br br I like the name, no idea the... (show quote)


Obama versus Reagan on taxes????
https://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/11/barack-obama-tax-spend-liberal-ronald-reagan.html

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Feb 12, 2014 23:08:52   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
son of witless wrote:
Hungry Freaks,

I like the name, no idea the meaning. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about defending left wingers and slamming Conservatives. That is good because I have an Obama cow chip on my shoulder. And it really stinks.

So lets us talk of Ronnie's deficits and compare them to the Obama's deficits, SHALL WE?

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Well said!
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 13, 2014 00:22:56   #
The Dutchman
 


Nice try there 3jack,

thinkprogress.org:
ThinkProgress is a liberal American political blog that "provides a forum that advances progressive ideas and policies". It is an outlet of the Center for American Progress. The blog is edited by Judd Legum, who founded it in 2005 DC political fundraiser for former ThinkProgress blogger & Hillary staffer

The T***h behind Judd Legum, liberal darling, mudslinger, trial lawyer, factually challenged blogger

mises.org:
The Mises Institute is the research and educational center of classical liberalism, libertarian political theory, and the Austrian School of economics.Auburn, Alabama

Now just when did liberal bogs become a source of facts??

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