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Aug 12, 2017 20:19:23   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
PeterS wrote:
If NK attacks us with nuclear missiles than we return the same and eliminate them as a country. The right of self defense isn't what is at question though but how far do two bullies go when fighting each other? If NK launches missiles that land in the ocean what does your god say that we should do? How many millions are we suppose to k**l simply because we feel threatened and are afraid that your god will no longer protect our "once"Christian country?



And you are in charge of what?

Fool


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Aug 12, 2017 20:21:27   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
PeterS wrote:
If they are missiles without any warheads what would be the point in returning missiles with warheads attached? How many people are we suppose to k**l simply to make a "I'm a bigger man than you are" point?




And you would know for sure they would have no war heads right?


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Aug 12, 2017 21:45:38   #
Gener
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Well, if someone points a gun at you loaded with blanks, pulls the trigger and it goes pow......how would you know it's loaded with blanks? Would you return fire to protect you and yours? Hell yea you would.....and you know it.

I would think it's best to assume the projectiles are real, especially after the threats levied in our direction......The second they launch.......wipe them from the face of the earth, count the bodies later.....let wh**ever God is involved sort out the details later.
Well, if someone points a gun at you loaded with b... (show quote)



Peter just wants to blame Christians for all the ills of the earth. Of course, turn the other cheek is a Christian idea. But what does Peter know?

The right to self defense should be a right that isn't even questioned, but a lot of the elite of the liberals have suggested no one has the right to self defense. Key here is that if war breaks out, the public will never know the real reasons or who ultimately was responsible. It just isn't going to happen. Before Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, there were some, a few, in our military who knew the attack was coming. The public is never told the t***h. Never.

The fact is the general population knows very little about our military capabilities either conventional or nuclear. They just don't give out that information. Nor does the public know anything about who is saying what in private. What the newspapers report that leaders are saying is only what they say publicly, and even then, some of that isn't true.

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Aug 12, 2017 22:07:05   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
------------what did they do back in the 50's & 60's back then the cuba stand off what did they do ?? i was born in 61 ..so i dont remember ..maybe they
do what they did back then ..i think it might be worth trying .. but i would do to them what they did to us then more ..


Naval blockade.

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Aug 12, 2017 22:13:43   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
JFlorio wrote:
Petey is one of those anti-American POS that think if some despot k**ls millions of people it's some how our fault. Guarantee he was bullied most of his young life. Just give in and hope they don't take your lunch money again. Love to here his solution instead of blaming the big bad U.S..


He can't be serious, unless he's from CA.

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Aug 12, 2017 22:18:24   #
Gener
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Naval blockade.



The Cuba situation was really a little different. Then again not that different. The world was tense as the Russian ships headed toward Cuba and refused to turn back. But then they did. Why? The story the public was told wasn't necessarily totally true. It was a little different situation back then. We had no defenses or a least little, against any kind of missile attack. The Russians had no defense against ours either. The difference was the Russian leaders were at least a LITTLE more rational than the NK regime. A blockade would be meaningless in this case, with NK, because we are talking about the firing of Nuclear missiles. The naval blockade around Cuba was to keep Russian ships from delivering missiles to Cuba. We weren't going to allow them in our back door. NK is not just threatening to send the missiles somewhere, they intend to actually use them. That is the difference.

I don't think NK by itself is that big a deal. The big deal is that if we are presumed in any way to be the aggressor, then we would be dealing with China and possibly Russia, and possibly Iran, and that is WWIII. If that happens, millions are likely to die. But we don't know. And any anxiety toward it is not going to help in anyway. We might as well go about our business, and just act normal. These things are beyond our control. (I'm talking about the population. The government should just do what has to be done.)

Some people want to blame Trump for this. The fact is Trump is as much caught in a bind as any of us. He can only do what he can do. And this would be happening no matter who is in the white house right now.

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Aug 12, 2017 23:46:32   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Gener wrote:
The Cuba situation was really a little different. Then again not that different. The world was tense as the Russian ships headed toward Cuba and refused to turn back. But then they did. Why? The story the public was told wasn't necessarily totally true. It was a little different situation back then. We had no defenses or a least little, against any kind of missile attack. The Russians had no defense against ours either. The difference was the Russian leaders were at least a LITTLE more rational than the NK regime. A blockade would be meaningless in this case, with NK, because we are talking about the firing of Nuclear missiles. The naval blockade around Cuba was to keep Russian ships from delivering missiles to Cuba. We weren't going to allow them in our back door. NK is not just threatening to send the missiles somewhere, they intend to actually use them. That is the difference.

I don't think NK by itself is that big a deal. The big deal is that if we are presumed in any way to be the aggressor, then we would be dealing with China and possibly Russia, and possibly Iran, and that is WWIII. If that happens, millions are likely to die. But we don't know. And any anxiety toward it is not going to help in anyway. We might as well go about our business, and just act normal. These things are beyond our control. (I'm talking about the population. The government should just do what has to be done.)

Some people want to blame Trump for this. The fact is Trump is as much caught in a bind as any of us. He can only do what he can do. And this would be happening no matter who is in the white house right now.
The Cuba situation was really a little different. ... (show quote)


Understood. The question was how was the Cuban problem handled back then and the answer is naval blockade.

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Aug 12, 2017 23:48:20   #
Gener
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Understood. The question was how was the Cuban problem handled back then and the answer is naval blockade.



Yeah, I didn't mean to take anything away from that. You are definitely right. It was a naval blockade. I remember the situation very well.

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Aug 13, 2017 01:31:56   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are sick. Do you even understand the implications of such a stupid statement--- "If NK attacks us with nuclear missiles"? WTF is the matter with you?

You simply have no concept of military matters. On that subject you are dumber than a rock. Finally, we have a president willing to defy our enemies rather than kiss their asses.

Two weeks ago, North Korea launched an ICBM (without a warhead) that landed in the ocean off the tip of the Japanese isle of Hokkaido. Japanese ashore saw it come down.
You are sick. Do you even understand the implicati... (show quote)

And how is upholding the right of self defense sick? Are you suggesting that we nuke NK without provocation or is a missile landing in the sea all that you Christian conservatives need? Personally that's what I call sick but to each their own correct!!!

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Aug 13, 2017 01:43:06   #
PeterS
 
Gener wrote:
Peter just wants to blame Christians for all the ills of the earth. Of course, turn the other cheek is a Christian idea. But what does Peter know?

The right to self defense should be a right that isn't even questioned, but a lot of the elite of the liberals have suggested no one has the right to self defense. Key here is that if war breaks out, the public will never know the real reasons or who ultimately was responsible. It just isn't going to happen. Before Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, there were some, a few, in our military who knew the attack was coming. The public is never told the t***h. Never.

The fact is the general population knows very little about our military capabilities either conventional or nuclear. They just don't give out that information. Nor does the public know anything about who is saying what in private. What the newspapers report that leaders are saying is only what they say publicly, and even then, some of that isn't true.
Peter just wants to blame Christians for all the i... (show quote)


Turn the cheek is a Christian idea? Then why do so many Christians want to attack N Korea before they've even attacked us? Do you not trust in what Christ preached? It's not what I know that's in question but why you don't seem to trust that Christ knew what he was talking about...

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Aug 13, 2017 01:47:04   #
PeterS
 
RETW wrote:
And you would know for sure they would have no war heads right?


RETW


And you would know for sure they would have no wa... (show quote)


And is there a reason you would fire before they hit? Once they were in the air there would be no reason to fire until after they hit. If there was no warhead there would be no reason to respond. If there was a warhead then we remove North Korea from the face of the earth...

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Aug 13, 2017 02:16:39   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
PeterS wrote:
And how is upholding the right of self defense sick? Are you suggesting that we nuke NK without provocation or is a missile landing in the sea all that you Christian conservatives need? Personally that's what I call sick but to each their own correct!!!



You're sick for postulating such an asinine scenario.

The entire premise is that NK attacks. They launch first. Get it? It makes your entire list of posts nonsense. If you don't.get it, it's because you don't want to and you must have had a sheltered childhood. This trolling you're doing is over.

In war there is no such thing as a partial response. You don't decide how hard to hit back if you are attacked. You hit as hard as you can to make sure they don't get up and attack you again.

Peddle your nonsense somewhere else.

With.you in the WH we'd all die here while you try to figure out how hard to fight back.

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Aug 13, 2017 03:09:19   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
PeterS wrote:
And is there a reason you would fire before they hit? Once they were in the air there would be no reason to fire until after they hit. If there was no warhead there would be no reason to respond. If there was a warhead then we remove North Korea from the face of the earth...




" Is there a reason you would fire before they hit?" That question, is why I'm so very glad, you're not in charge of anything military.

The little fat man has already said to the world he will fire on Guam. So your just going to sit around and watch him do it. What are you going to tell any survivors, oh sorry about that, but we had to be certain you
got nuked before we responded. So according to you, 50 to 75 thousand lives your willing to let die on a prevocational maybe. Your insane.

What in the name of hell do you think got us to this point in the first place? It was attitudes exactly like that stupid question of yours. ( your solution is to wait and see ) And then try to lead from behind?

So than, if there is a war head in them, your just going to go, oh hum de dumm de dumm. Ok, so now lets go nuke em.

You have confirmed for me, why they make asylums.



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Aug 13, 2017 03:35:02   #
PeterS
 
RETW wrote:


You have confirmed for me, why they make asylums.



RETW

br br You have confirmed for me, why they make a... (show quote)

Yeah, to put you fuking lunatic conservatives in them. You do understand that China has said they will side with the little fat man if we attack first. Anyone willing to start WWIII is a nut and deserves to be put away like one...

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Aug 13, 2017 03:35:23   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
RETW wrote:
" Is there a reason you would fire before they hit?" That question, is why I'm so very glad, you're not in charge of anything military.

The little fat man has already said to the world he will fire on Guam. So your just going to sit around and watch him do it. What are you going to tell any survivors, oh sorry about that, but we had to be certain you
got nuked before we responded. So according to you, 50 to 75 thousand lives your willing to let die on a prevocational maybe. Your insane.

What in the name of hell do you think got us to this point in the first place? It was attitudes exactly like that stupid question of yours. ( your solution is to wait and see ) And then try to lead from behind?

So than, if there is a war head in them, your just going to go, oh hum de dumm de dumm. Ok, so now lets go nuke em.

You have confirmed for me, why they make asylums.



RETW

" Is there a reason you would fire before t... (show quote)


RETW you forget about our defense system. We can take out ballistic missiles before they hit us. With this weapon, we could wait out the verbal threat. However, we must put our defenses into position before any attack is made. No one wants nuclear war. But if N. Korea brings it, then we should show the power of fire we can use, and stop all of humanity from wielding this power.

It is like holding on to an effective weapon, not using it, the fear of that weapon is more effective than using the weapon.

That being said, North Korea better watch out. We appeased Hitler, we appeased Saddam Hussein, we appeased Isis, we shall not appease N. Korea or any other dictator any more. It has been proven that it will only get worse. This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative but for survival of the Human Race. Would we rather live in fear and s***ery, or shall we live in bravery and freedom? That is the question. It is our choice. And I choose bravery and freedom.

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