Watching the White House trying to spin todays CBO report which concluded that ObamaCare will directly result in the equivalent of over 2 million workers leaving the workforce in the next ten years was like watching a parody of the White House trying to spin todays CBO report (although I cant quite decide if its the White Houses or Harry Reids reaction, arguing that the reports conclusion is actually a positive because we live in a country where we should be free agents, that really deserves first prize on that one. I cant even talk about Nancy Pelosis.).
Unfortunately for Democrats, this is hardly the end of the ridiculously tortured spinning theyre going to have to do ahead of the midterms; as Rep. Issa pointed out today in his own reaction, the CBO was originally working off of a set of assumptions that are changing now that the law is actually happening. The CBO (along with the rest of us) is finally finding out whats in it, and there are certainly plenty more unpleasant discoveries left to come:
CBO originally said this was going to be budget-neutral, it bought in to a lot of assumptions that healthcare costs would go down, all these good things would happen. But, in fact, as the rollout begins, and youre beginning to be able to score the actual effects, youre now realizing, this is a job-k**ler.
2,400 pages get thrown together at the last minute after the score was in, and then 70,000 and counting pages of new regulations. What the CBO is able to do now is look at the law as it is and find out its very different than what then-Speaker Pelosi said was going to happen. There are lots of things they said would happen that wont happen, and quite frankly, theres other surprises yet to come as we see that in fact this is a big increase in Medicaid
We were talking about the fact that at some point, people are going to realize that we taxed medical devices, and the assumption that was in the bill was that the cost of medical devices wouldnt go up even though were adding a tax to these devices. Everyone knows that if you tax something its going to get passed on to the consumer in the way of higher costs
This really is a law that was written badly from the ground up.
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
CBO also said in the report that you refer to, say's "explicitly" that the ACA"s impact will not be felt as an "increase in unemployment or under employment."
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
CBO also said in the report that you refer to, say's "explicitly" that the ACA"s impact will not be felt as an "increase in unemployment or under employment."
The cons on this site are as dishonest and dumb as they come. Then you have the really stupid ones that refuse to see the t***h when it's right in front of their face....Several of the republicon women here are really stupid as some of the of the men are. Take our country back is the only thing they can come up with.
So your hardly the brightest bulb in the pack.
What really stupid, believing your health care is FREE or you can keep your doctor?
Retired669 wrote:
The cons on this site are as dishonest and dumb as they come. Then you have the really stupid ones that refuse to see the t***h when it's right in front of their face....Several of the republicon women here are really stupid as some of the of the men are. Take our country back is the only thing they can come up with.
f*****t lies from faux? what a freaking laugh
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
CBO also said in the report that you refer to, say's "explicitly" that the ACA"s impact will not be felt as an "increase in unemployment or under employment."
Please. People are switching to part time in droves. They can't afford Obamacare without subsidies. Direct result of the law. You have no idea how many families have been horrifically affected by this law. Coworkers of mine bawling in the break room at work. Perhaps you can give them a shoulder to cry on. This law is pathetic and I already know the consequences no matter what any report says. Dream your dreams people this is the worst law on lower income job workers ever.
Serenity54321 wrote:
Please. People are switching to part time in droves. They can't afford Obamacare without subsidies. Direct result of the law. You have no idea how many families have been horrifically affected by this law. Coworkers of mine bawling in the break room at work. Perhaps you can give them a shoulder to cry on. This law is pathetic and I already know the consequences no matter what any report says. Dream your dreams people this is the worst law on lower income job workers ever.
I know people who are loving the new Health Care law...Best thing that has happened for them in a long time. Folks are still signing up everyday regardless of the propaganda coming from the wingnuts. :thumbup:
Retired669 wrote:
I know people who are loving the new Health Care law...Best thing that has happened for them in a long time. Folks are still signing up everyday regardless of the propaganda coming from the wingnuts. :thumbup:
Not in my world. People are being FORCED to reduce their income in order to qualify for subsidies because they can't afford Obamacares outrageous deductibles. I thought you liberals cared about the working poor. It's obvious to me you really only care about being right. You can claim all the praise for this program if you want to. It's a lie. But have fun.
Not in most worlds, just in the liberal mind.
Serenity54321 wrote:
Not in my world. People are being FORCED to reduce their income in order to qualify for subsidies because they can't afford Obamacares outrageous deductibles. I thought you liberals cared about the working poor. It's obvious to me you really only care about being right. You can claim all the praise for this program if you want to. It's a lie. But have fun.
bmac32 wrote:
Not in most worlds, just in the liberal mind.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle are so obsessed with being right they will not admit a failed policy even when it slaps them in the face. People are not "choosing" to work less or not at all, they are being "forced" to through policy. I'm tired of arguing. People would rather be right than happy, and it's a cancer throughout this country. It's not going to change either. Well, everyone can bear the burden of their own stubbornness. I'm done debating.
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
BoJester wrote:
Keep them coming. Make the fools heads explode and their eyes bleed from having their lies revealed
the obozo admin. just announced that all these part time jobs will give people more leisure time instead of working for those nasty rich people that expect some one to pay them for just showing up then they even want them to do something so obozo will fine those same nasty rich people if they dare to show a profit
Retired669 wrote:
The cons on this site are as dishonest and dumb as they come. Then you have the really stupid ones that refuse to see the t***h when it's right in front of their face....Several of the republicon women here are really stupid as some of the of the men are. Take our country back is the only thing they can come up with.
Well I did won't to take our country back..But if you and Bojerkoff, and the other Opuko believing dummies are going to still be here..ma by the wetbacks can have it, and you dummies can tell them how great OPUKO is...after you learn Spanish.
UncleJesse wrote:
Those lucky folks that do not need to work full time or at all because of Obamacare gives hope to the rest of us.
I ran into a few of them at work over the years who said they'd retire now but the cost of insurance is so high, they're working just for the insurance benefit.
Good for them and for us.
Now they can retire and will drive our pay up due to a labor shortage.
unc thats what amnesty is for.
Retired669 wrote:
The cons on this site are as dishonest and dumb as they come. Then you have the really stupid ones that refuse to see the t***h when it's right in front of their face....Several of the republicon women here are really stupid as some of the of the men are. Take our country back is the only thing they can come up with.
Just wondering where all the tax dollars you need to pull off this program is going to come from if everyone quits working or simply works part-time. Hope you have a few extra millions in your pocket because no one else will.
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