Brian Devon

Yeah, me too. For some reason I was none too thrilled when I first saw West Side story and heard Anita (Rita Moreno) singing to Maria (Natalie Wood) that she should, "stick to your own kind". The reward for Jews who do that, try Tay-Sachs disease. For B****s, its cicle-cell anemia. Mutts have an evolutionary advantage.

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

Some good points. Perhaps you were wise beyond your years when you first saw West Side.

Brian Devon

Actually I wasn't all that wise. My wife had to explain to me that it was an updated version of Romeo and Juliet. Thanks for the compliment, anyways.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

Brian, I have to ask this question: Why would God through out Ancient History tell the Hebrews and Jews not to marry outside of their own 12 tribes? I mean this on the up and up, honestly.
I mean through out time, what's done is done. But there has to be a reason that Almighty God told that to them.
Could that be where the rh - blood factor came from? The Hebrews? Today it is a troublesome blood factor that used to k**l 200,000 infants per yr. It causes birth defects even though science has developed a serum to stop the babies from dying at birth. It lacks no natural proteins in the blood system at all, making a lot of people who carry that blood factor sickly through out their lives, prone to diseases.
Maybe they should have listened to God? But then again, what's done is done.

Brian Devon

Part of religion's function is to keep people in line. This can be done with bullying images of an angry God or satan. When people want to follow their hearts desires, its quite convenient to haul out the boogie-man to convince them not to stray.

Why did the Jews have such a monumentally long set of sins. Try this. If you were caught sinning, you had to do penance. How did you do penance, you brought a "sin-offering" of a lamb or goat. Did the priests completely burn up your offering. Not exactly. Most of them were not vegetarians and enjoyed the nicest cuts of meat...kind of like our modern day politicians...

rumitoid

What's wrong with my attitude? There is a large segment of Christians that are looking to hurry along prophecy, such as getting Israel involved in a devastating war with Iran that will draw in the super powers, so that we can get on with the Main and Final Bout: I find that appalling. Is that the wrong attitude?

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

Ah so. Thanks for being honest then! :thumbup:

Brian Devon

No. Your attitude is correct! The last thing planet earth needs is a nuclear exchange. God save us from religious extremists. Bless the peace-makers and bless the world!

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

I do have to agree with the fact that some Christians, just like other people in America have become hooked on adrenaline highs. Ever since Clintons big upheaval in our White House, then 9/11, Katrina, Obama, these big things have been happening one right after another. It's easy to get hooked on it. But, Christian Pastors need to slow down and turn their focus back to ministering their flocks, towards peace and contentment in the heart as well as the home.
What was it God said to Elijah? I'm not in the Earthquake, not in the Storm, but in the still small voice in your heart.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

I would find that appalling too, Rumi, if I knew of such a group.

It is absolutely appalling that you would believe such a thing. Since

prophecy does not say Christians would do any such thing, they would

not be fulfilling Scripture.

Where is this large segment of Christians? What are their

denominations? Where are their headquarters?

They're splinter groups, at best, and are not following God.

Brian Devon

Even though, I am not a true believer, I did like your remarks. I really do have an affection for the peace-makers.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Actually, "Palestine" was part of the Ottoman empire before WW1. It was promised to the Jews in a deal for a formula for explosives that was developed by Chaim Weitzman, Later to become Israel's first president. Jordan was separated from Palestine and given to the Hashemites as a thank you for help in fighting the Turks during WW1. The Hashemites had no connection to that area and came from the Arabian Peninsula. Well after the Balfour Declaration which promised the land for a "Jewish Homeland", the United Kingdom went back on its word giving the land to the Palestinian Arabs. Israel says that Jordan is a Palestinian homeland and ought to be given back to the Palestinian Arabs. Israel has a point, but we all know that that ain't gonna happen!

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

This poll was taken less than four months ago:

Fact Tank - Our Lives in Numbers

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/03/more-white-evangelicals-than-american-jews-say-god-gave-israel-to-the-jewish-people/

October 3, 2013

More white evangelicals than American Jews say God gave Israel to the Jewish people

By Michael Lipka


82%, A majority of white evangelicals believe God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people, compared with 40% of American Jews who believe the same.

Israel defines itself as a Jewish state, and most Jews in the United States say that emotionally they are either very attached (30%) or somewhat attached (39%) to Israel. But on some measures, Jews’ feelings for Israel are equaled or even exceeded by those of white evangelical Protestants.

For example, twice as many white evangelical Protestants as Jews say that Israel was given to the Jewish people by God (82% vs. 40%).

Some of the discrepancy is attributable to Jews’ lower levels of belief in God overall; virtually all evangelicals say they believe in God, compared with 72% of Jews (23% say they do not believe in God and 5% say they don’t know or decline to answer the question).

But even Jews who do believe in God are less likely than evangelicals to believe that God gave the land that is now Israel to the Jewish people (55% vs. 82%).

White evangelical Protestants also are more likely than Jews to favor stronger U.S. support of Israel. Among Jews, 54% say American support of the Jewish state is “about right,” while 31% say the U.S. is not supportive enough.

By contrast, more white evangelical Protestants say the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel (46%) than say support is about right (31%).

White evangelical Protestants are less optimistic than Jews about the prospects for a peaceful two-state solution to conflict in the region.

When asked if there is a way for Israel and an independent Palestinian state to coexist peacefully, six-in-ten American Jews (61%) say yes, while one-third say no.

Among white evangelical Protestants, 42% say Israel and an independent Palestinian state can coexist peacefully, while 50% say this is not possible.

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

Sorry my mistake hit wrong button while here however I believe one thing.the end s orchestrated by a divine being who only knows when the end really is.and these wall extremests hiding under the banner of Christian luckily I believe wont really be able to define God's intentions.thats how I sleep at night knowing God's in control.
and always has been.But for those in the know depeche modes "blasphemous rumors ""can't help but ring in your ears.