Glaucon

You need to know what the meanings of the words you use. Look up the word, slander.

You say you chose (close?) love, peace, harmony and prayer and turned immediately to suggestions of violence. That seems like a very mixed message or expression of your feelings.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

No, a challenge has nothing to do with bigotry.
As is the case with this post you state Loki and I are bigoted because we post information that is true and negative about "black or people of color".

When a group of people do something that is proven to be of that group then that is not racist or bigotry.

When I challenge you to answer my responses to your slanderous and erroneous posts. That is not bigoted. I have Wikipedia's response to my interrogation regarding your statement.

So, respond to the challenge item by item or you have accepted defeat by being unable, not wanting to because of many reasons such as cowardice (I am not accusing you), intimidated by a superior intellect, there could be many reasons.

Not answering a challenge that you instigated.

You wrote it, I read it, it stimulated a response. So, who is the original challenger? Wikipedia says it is you.

GLAUCON'S RESOPNSE

You obviously had no interest whatsoever in even trying to understand what I commented and what I intended. Your obvious reason in responding to me was to attempt to prove your views and opinions are right and true and to prove that mine were wrong and untrue and that there is no middle ground to even be sought. If your overwhelming need is to prove yourself right and a purveyor of the truth, let’s say you have done that and that you have won the game. It is impossible to learn anything when you believe you already know everything.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

slander

Contents

1 English
1.1 Alternative forms
1.2 Etymology
1.3 Noun
1.3.1 Synonyms
1.3.2 Translations
1.4 Verb
1.4.1 Synonyms
1.4.2 Translations
1.5 See also
1.6 Anagrams

English
Wikipedia has an article on:
Slander

Alternative forms

slandre (obsolete)

Etymology

13th century. From Old French esclandre, from Ecclesiastical Latin scandalum (“stumbling block, temptation”), from Ancient Greek σκάνδαλον (skándalon, “scandal”).
Noun

slander (plural slanders)

a false or unsupported, malicious statement (spoken or published), especially one which is injurious to a person's reputation; the making of such a statement

Synonyms

See also Wikisaurus:slander

Translations
[show ▼]false, malicious statement
Verb

slander (third-person singular simple present slanders, present participle slandering, simple past and past participle slandered)

to utter a slanderous statement

Synonyms

defame
libel (always in writing)
See also Wikisaurus:defame




There is the definition of slander. I'm sure a reasonable unbiased person that reads your post to or about me in this thread will agree with me. You set the rules here. It is not the rough and trouble of OPP.

You seem to ascribe violence to my Closing of my post. It is a phrase from WWII, However, instead of looking it up you again turn to Accuse me of mixed messages.

You are yet to answer item by item your allegations and slanderous remarks.



The phrase later song from WWII.
Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition"
Written by Frank Loesser
Published 1942
Language English
Form American patriotic song

"Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" is an American patriotic song written by Frank Loesser and published as sheet music in 1942 by Famous Music Corp. The song was a response to the attack on Pearl Harbor that marked United States involvement in World War II.

The song describes a chaplain ("sky pilot") being with some fighting men who are under attack from an enemy. He is asked to say a prayer for the men who were engaged in firing at the oncoming planes. The chaplain puts down his Bible, mans one of the ship's gun turrets and begins firing back, saying, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".

Glaucon

You obviously had no interest whatsoever in even trying to understand what I commented and what I intended. Your obvious reason in responding to me was to attempt to prove your views and opinions are right and true and to prove that mine were wrong and untrue and that there is no middle ground to even be sought. If your overwhelming need is to prove yourself right and a purveyor of the truth, let’s say you have done that and that you have won the game. It is impossible to learn anything when you believe you already know everything.

No, a challenge has nothing to do with bigotry.
As is the case with this post you state Loki and I are bigoted because we post information that is true and negative about "black or people of color".
When a group of people do something that is proven to be of that group then that is not racist or bigotry.
When I challenge you to answer my responses to your slanderous and erroneous posts. That is not bigoted. I have Wikipedia's response to my interrogation regarding your statement.
So, respond to the challenge item by item or you have accepted defeat by being unable, not wanting to because of many reasons such as cowardice (I am not accusing you), intimidated by a superior intellect, there could be many reasons.
Not answering a challenge that you instigated.
You wrote it, I read it, it stimulated a response. So, who is the original challenger? Wikipedia says it is you.

Noun
challenge (plural challenges)
A confrontation; a dare.
An instigation or antagonization intended to convince a person to perform an action they otherwise would not.  [quotations ▼]
A bid to overcome something.  [quotations ▼]

a challenge to the king's authority

(sports) An attempt to take possession; a tackle  [quotations ▼]
A summons to fight a duel; also, the letter or message conveying the summons.
The act of a sentry in halting a person and demanding the countersign, or (by extension) the action of a computer system demanding a password, etc.
A difficult task, especially one that the person making the attempt finds more enjoyable because of that difficulty.
(law) A procedure or action.
(law, rare) A judge's interest in the result of the case for which he or she should not be allowed to sit the case, e.g. a conflict of interest.

Consanguinity in direct line is a challenge for a judge when he or she is sitting cases.

The act of appealing a ruling or decision of a court of administrative agency.
The act of seeking to remove a judge, arbitrator or other judicial or semi-judicial figure for reasons of alleged bias or incapacity.

We're still waiting to hear how the court rules on our challenge of the arbitrator based on conflict of interest.

(US) An exception to a person as not legally qualified to vote. The challenge must be made when the ballot is offered.
(hunting) The opening and crying of hounds at first finding the scent of their game.
bigoted

Contents

1 English
1.1 Alternative forms
1.2 Adjective
1.2.1 Derived terms
1.2.2 Translations

English
Alternative forms

bigotted

Adjective

bigoted (comparative more bigoted, superlative most bigoted)

Being a bigot; biased; strongly prejudiced; forming opinions without just cause.

Derived terms

bigotedly
bigotedness

You obviously had no interest whatsoever in even trying to understand what I commented and what I intended. Your obvious reason in responding to me was to attempt to prove your views and opinions are right and true and to prove that mine were wrong and untrue and that there is no middle ground to even be sought. If your overwhelming need is to prove yourself right and a purveyor of the truth, let’s say you have done that and that you have won the game. It is impossible to learn anything when you believe you already know everything.

No, a challenge has nothing to do with bigotry.
As is the case with this post you state Loki and I are bigoted because we post information that is true and negative about "black or people of color".
When a group of people do something that is proven to be of that group then that is not racist or bigotry.
When I challenge you to answer my responses to your slanderous and erroneous posts. That is not bigoted. I have Wikipedia's response to my interrogation regarding your statement.
So, respond to the challenge item by item or you have accepted defeat by being unable, not wanting to because of many reasons such as cowardice (I am not accusing you), intimidated by a superior intellect, there could be many reasons.
Not answering a challenge that you instigated.
You wrote it, I read it, it stimulated a response. So, who is the original challenger? Wikipedia says it is you.

Noun
challenge (plural challenges)
A confrontation; a dare.
An instigation or antagonization intended to convince a person to perform an action they otherwise would not.  [quotations ▼]
A bid to overcome something.  [quotations ▼]

a challenge to the king's authority

(sports) An attempt to take possession; a tackle  [quotations ▼]
A summons to fight a duel; also, the letter or message conveying the summons.
The act of a sentry in halting a person and demanding the countersign, or (by extension) the action of a computer system demanding a password, etc.
A difficult task, especially one that the person making the attempt finds more enjoyable because of that difficulty.
(law) A procedure or action.
(law, rare) A judge's interest in the result of the case for which he or she should not be allowed to sit the case, e.g. a conflict of interest.

Consanguinity in direct line is a challenge for a judge when he or she is sitting cases.

The act of appealing a ruling or decision of a court of administrative agency.
The act of seeking to remove a judge, arbitrator or other judicial or semi-judicial figure for reasons of alleged bias or incapacity.

We're still waiting to hear how the court rules on our challenge of the arbitrator based on conflict of interest.

(US) An exception to a person as not legally qualified to vote. The challenge must be made when the ballot is offered.
(hunting) The opening and crying of hounds at first finding the scent of their game.
bigoted

Contents

1 English
1.1 Alternative forms
1.2 Adjective
1.2.1 Derived terms
1.2.2 Translations

English
Alternative forms

bigotted

Adjective

bigoted (comparative more bigoted, superlative most bigoted)

Being a bigot; biased; strongly prejudiced; forming opinions without just cause.

Derived terms

bigotedly
bigotedness

You obviously had no interest whatsoever in even trying to understand what I commented and what I intended. Your obvious reason in responding to me was to attempt to prove your views and opinions are right and true and to prove that mine were wrong and untrue and that there is no middle ground to even be sought. If your overwhelming need is to prove yourself right and a purveyor of the truth, let’s say you have done that and that you have won the game. It is impossible to learn anything when you believe you already know everything.

Glaucon

You obviously had no interest whatsoever in even trying to understand what I commented and what I intended. Your obvious reason in responding to me was to attempt to prove your views and opinions are right and true and to prove that mine were wrong and untrue and that there is no middle ground to even be sought. If your overwhelming need is to prove yourself right and a purveyor of the truth, let’s say you have done that and that you have won the game. It is impossible to learn anything when you believe you already know everything.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

I understand English it is my first language. If you wrote it then it must be what you intended.

Of course you are wrong and still refuse to admit it.

Not a game to me. Only to you. Not my views and opinions. Just like Loki facts. Proof. statements that are valid

In the Navy we called persons that act like you; accept defeat (as in a debate) without grace and attempt to deflect culpability for you action onto me in this case. CANDYASS

Glaucon

Glaucon

ron vrooman wrote:
I understand English it is my first language. If you wrote it then it must be what you intended.

Of course you are wrong and still refuse to admit it.

Not a game to me. Only to you. Not my views and opinions. Just like Loki facts. Proof. statements that are valid

In the Navy we called persons that act like you; accept defeat (as in a debate) without grace and attempt to deflect culpability for you action onto me in this case. CANDYASS

Glaucon's response:

Your English is apparently limited if you are not aware that it is virtually impossible to write or say anything in English that someone who claims to speak English is not able to fail to understand or to misunderstand and even when a person is trying to understand it is often difficult and takes some effort to understand. For example, if I say to you, I feel your nuts, you can interpret that to mean that I am touching you improperly or that it is my opinion that you have a serious mental health problem or some other way.

What people say may be what they intended and it may be the perceptual distortions of the person hearing the words. So, when you say that your interpretation of my words must be what I intended, you don’t understand linguistics, English, or your own desperate need to believe you are right. I try to avoid people who believe others are candyasses because those others are strong enough to avoid the instinct to struggle to prove themselves to be right no matter what and also strong enough be able to admit their errors.

In my line of work, I am sometimes wrong and I have learned to admit it readily and not see it as losing face, being defeated, being a candy ass, or a deficit. I often question others to hear what they think and most of all to clarify the issue so that we are talking about the same thing. It is often possible for two or more people to have different opinions and views and all be right or all be wrong. You mention accepting defeat in political discussion and I guess I think of the purpose of these discussions to be learning, honing one’s opinions and not winning some kind of debate or court case.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

I understand English it is my first language. If you wrote it then it must be what you intended.

Of course you are wrong and still refuse to admit it.

Not a game to me. Only to you. Not my views and opinions. Just like Loki facts. Proof. statements that are valid

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Clever trick. However, it still does not answer one of the several posts with several questions that you still refuse to answer item by item.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

I understand you are a published psychologist? Two books.
Self publish??? I can get snarky also.

Glaucon

It seems you want some kind of conflict with me. I wrote a lengthy response and answered all the questions. Your response didn't mention any of the points I made and you did respond to one I didn't make. I don't care if you are snarky. If that gets you a peak experience, I think you should get it anyway you can. What difference does it make to you what I publish or how? The kinds of issues I write about do not lend themselves to self publishing so, if that is a question, the answer is, no. Why do you need to be snarky?

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

I don't like you and what you claim you stand for that is why I was snaky.

Here is the questions in the thread you did not answer.

Such as: define and show your source to prove the slanderous points you bring up about me and others stupid, bigot,

Vrooman, You are one determined bigot and num num's like you are destroying my country. Your supply of misinformation and your defective thinking skills make you one very dangerous head case.

Glaucon, it seems that you must slander instead of refute item by item as I asked. What in particular can you identify as bigotry please be specific.

Numnums like me are destroying your country. Again I find that personal and slanderous. Nothing factual.

Please identify the misinformation. Specifically. I would also like to have you identify defective thinking skills then you become slanderous again.

Again you go for slander. You asked the questions. Tassine answered in detail and supported her thought with well thought out words. You did not need to do anything, The effective communication had happened in writing. this was not a verbal "tell" situation. Many of the statement you wrote had no basis in fact as you can not identify what you wrote in what Tassine said.

Please identify the 'Hate Juices" I demonstrated. Tassine is not on line to challenge you. I'm sure it is not intelligence or courage that Tassine is lacking.

PM's are the place to address an individual. If you put it out there publicly, I may answer.

You bring up anger (unable to identify the specifics) courage, genitalia and slander two people.

I didn't set the rules for this thread. You did and are not keeping them

Dear stupid black people was the term I copied I did not originate it. You however, left off the Dear. Out of context again. I did however point out several issues that indicate the lack of the use their intelligence. As every item is a product of some research by responsible agencies I repeated them. Therefore, it does not indicate either of your allegations of racist/bigoted are my personal beliefs.

We are in different time zones. This is another attempt to discredit me. Stay on task. I have no conflict with you. I take exception to the things you say that are unsupported by facts.

Then your refusal to defend your allegations item by item and attempt to put the responsibility onto me to cover your inability to defend or debate your irresponsible posts when challenged.

Again stay on task; this has nothing to do with flapping my arms to fly. I'm sure there is a true conservative that could address you statement about my part in the thread we are contesting.

I am an independent, so I do not adhere to a part line.

Glaucon wrote:
"Stupid black people" would lead some liberals to believe you are racist/bigoted.

Your being up at 3:30 am suggests you have some personal problems and that all this conflict you are trying to have with me is merely a distraction from them.

I cannot prove you are unable to wave your arms and fly, that you are not a child molester, that you are a right wing head case. It is very difficult and sometimes impossible to prove a negative. I think true conservatives would see clearly that you have some thinking deficits implicit in your comments and that you rely on many factoids to support your thinking deficits.
How is that? Is that your opinion? Can you substantiate your assertion?

I find you never seem to reply when asked to do so item for item. When I challenge you your replies do not address the challenge.

What make Loki and I bigoted. Please be factual.
Glaucon wrote:
I am not sure you and Locus are unaware of your bigotry, but bigotry it is.


It is not good to challenge people, it is much more productive to merely ask them. Are you able to see that using the word, challenge, is what one would do if they were being bigoted.

You need to know what the meanings of the words you use. Look up the word, slander.

You say you chose (close?) love, peace, harmony and prayer and turned immediately to suggestions of violence. That seems like a very mixed message or expression of your feelings. Praise the lord and pass the ammunition is a prayer and song from WWII.

No, a challenge has nothing to do with bigotry.
As is the case with this post you state Loki and I are bigoted because we post information that is true and negative about "black or people of color".

When a group of people do something that is proven to be of that group then that is not racist or bigotry.

When I challenge you to answer my responses to your slanderous and erroneous posts. That is not bigoted. I have Wikipedia's response to my interrogation regarding your statement.

So, respond to the challenge item by item or you have accepted defeat by being unable, not wanting to because of many reasons such as cowardice (I am not accusing you), intimidated by a superior intellect, there could be many reasons.

Not answering a challenge that you instigated.

You wrote it, I read it, it stimulated a response. So, who is the original challenger? Wikipedia says it is you.

GLAUCON'S RESOPNSE

You obviously had no interest whatsoever in even trying to understand what I commented and what I intended. Your obvious reason in responding to me was to attempt to prove your views and opinions are right and true and to prove that mine were wrong and untrue and that there is no middle ground to even be sought. If your overwhelming need is to prove yourself right and a purveyor of the truth, let’s say you have done that and that you have won the game. It is impossible to learn anything when you believe you already know everything.


You are the word smith. Don’t write ambiguous phrases and sentences and you won’t be misunderstood. You were not. You slander, lie, refuse to answer, obfuscate, so when you challenge me that I don’t understand slander, bigotry. I look them up and again prove you the critic of everyone else’s spelling, language, usage. You place the bar high and can’t get over it.