ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Glaucon, it seems that you must slander instead of refute item by item as I asked. What in particular can you identify as bigotry please be specific.

Numnums like me are destroying your country. Again I find that personal and slanderous. Nothing factual.

Please identify the misinformation. Specifically. I would also like to have you identify defective thinking skills then you become slanderous again.

ron vrooman wrote:
The mainstream media is crooked. Gagged by their management and fired when they do not tow the mark. Dear Stupid Black People ; did you hear the rant by the angry articulate poorly educated but passionate Black Guy on OPP about the riots? He said much worse than that. Read any legitimate information about indicators of intelligence: black teen age about of wedlock children with several different fathers; the numbers of blacks in prison that go for GED or college; the numbers of uneducated nearly illiterate (stupid ) professional athletes; the percentage of the population of blacks and the position they hold in academics now do the same with Asians . Now apply the reasonable person's findings to these two questions and refute any that you wish to contest with facts Item by item.
Jon you seem to have difficulties with your manners. Is this the good behavior site?


Vrooman, You are one determined bigot and num num's like you are destroying my country. Your supply of misinformation and your defective thinking skills make you one very dangerous head case.

Glaucon, it seems that you must slander instead of refute item by item as I asked. What in particular can you identify as bigotry please be specific.

Numnums like me are destroying your country. Again I find that personal and slanderous. Nothing factual.

Please identify the misinformation. Specifically. I would also like to have you identify defective thinking skills then you become slanderous again.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I like Jesse he makes a lot of sense.

:thumbup:

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Again you go for slander. You asked the questions. Tassine answered in detail and supported her thought with well thought out words. You did not need to do anything, The effective communication had happened in writing. this was not a verbal "tell" situation. Many of the statement you wrote had no basis in fact as you can not identify what you wrote in what Tassine said.

Please identify the 'Hate Juices" I demonstrated. Tassine is not on line to challenge you. I'm sure it is not intelligence or courage that Tassine is lacking.

PM's are the place to address an individual. If you put it out there publicly, I may answer.

You bring up anger (unable to identify the specifics) courage, genitalia and slander two people.

I didn't set the rules for this thread. You did and are not keeping them

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Someone asked about the 46 Dem Senators that voted for the UN treaty on gun control. I'll tell you what I think and the action I took.

They should be indicted for treason. My reasoning is in the writing below I researching how to take action against my 2 Oregon senators that voted for the UN treaty on guns.
I sent to Publius, Oregon Attorney General, Washington County of Oregon my decision to ask the Oregon Common Law Grand Jury for and indictment against both of Oregon's senators to remove them from office.

Please see below, I think this is creative and doable.


I want to ask the Washington County Common Law Grand Jury for an indictment against Senators Wydon and Merkley.

http://www.clgj.info/oregon.html

http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/grandjuryrules.htm

Good Morning,

I read what the duties of the Oregon Common Law Grand Jury are. This is the correct place to lodge my action against wydon and merkley. Although, it way be that Washington County has not implemented this legal procedure. There are pages of information on this on the Internet. I included 2 addresses for you from among many

I have decided to take action legally and peacefully: Our two Senators along with 46 others broke their oath when they voted for the UN treaty on gun control.

They are aware of the 2nd amendment " shall not infringe" which they did. To change the Constitution, that they took and oath to defend, takes an amendment. Any other action to infringe upon my 2nd amendment rights is showing intent to deprive me of my rights. Just because they tried unsuccessfully does not negate "shall not infringe." Any action is an infringement.

Article III Section 3 states "adhering to their enemies, giving aid and comfort" When these two person voted for a treaty that would in if enacted have infringed on my 2nd amendment rights. Those in the UN that want to disarm American citizens are in fact "enemies" by their desire to deprive me/us of my/our 2nd amendment rights. Those senators 46 that voted to infringe on my/our second amendment rights fulfill the requirements of treason as written in the Constitution of the United States of America. The constitution places this authority in the states rights area of law. Please convene a Hearing where two witnesses may testify so that they may be convicted and removed from office.

I close with love, peace, harmony and a prayer
Don't tread on me

Ron

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Do you follow him on "OFF the Grid" ? I asked one of our Opp members from MN what she thought of Governor Jesse Ventura. I got a very strong endorsement. She refuted all the negatives published against his term as Governor of MN. Would you like to read them.
PS I have one of my poodle puppies in Coos Bay

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Agreed and I usually find myself in that position with your posts.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Wrong again Glaucon. In addition to delete admin can also caution and or warn.

Glaucon

"Stupid black people" would lead some liberals to believe you are racist/bigoted.

Your being up at 3:30 am suggests you have some personal problems and that all this conflict you are trying to have with me is merely a distraction from them.

I cannot prove you are unable to wave your arms and fly, that you are not a child molester, that you are a right wing head case. It is very difficult and sometimes impossible to prove a negative. I think true conservatives would see clearly that you have some thinking deficits implicit in your comments and that you rely on many factoids to support your thinking deficits.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Dear stupid black people was the term I copied I did not originate it. You however, left off the Dear. Out of context again. I did however point out several issues that indicate the lack of the use their intelligence. As every item is a product of some research by responsible agencies I repeated them. Therefore, it does not indicate either of your allegations of racist/bigoted are my personal beliefs.

We are in different time zones. This is another attempt to discredit me. Stay on task. I have no conflict with you. I take exception to the things you say that are unsupported by facts.

Then your refusal to defend your allegations item by item and attempt to put the responsibility onto me to cover your inability to defend or debate your irresponsible posts when challenged.

Again stay on task; this has nothing to do with flapping my arms to fly. I'm sure there is a true conservative that could address you statement about my part in the thread we are contesting.

I am an independent, so I do not adhere to a part line.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Loki Posted this so he must be racist by your definition as am I because I am re-posting it here.

Matter of fact, something else you idiots never address, [undoubtedly because of it's RAAAAAACIIIIIISST!!! connotations], is the FACT, as per FBI statistics, there were 9000 odd firearms murders in the US last year. About 7000 of the victims were black. Something like 94 -95 percent of the perpetrators were black. In other words, nearly 70% of both the victims and the murderers came from a group that represents around 6% of the population. Blacks are 13% of the population, however, virtually all the crimes are committed by black males 15-45 years of age, about 6% of the populace. That's not quite right. The perps were in the 6%, the victims were of all ages. My bad.

Glaucon

I am not sure you and Locus are unaware of your bigotry, but bigotry it is.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

How is that? Is that your opinion? Can you substantiate your assertion?

I find you never seem to reply when asked to do so item for item. When I challenge you your replies do not address the challenge.

What make Loki and I bigoted. Please be factual.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Come on Glaucon, suck it up, respond to my answers to every remark you made slanderous or not.

Show us how point by point your superior logic, brains, talent; racist free self; will verbally destroy me point by point. No slanderous remarks, politely with decorum as you run your thread.

There seem to be six or seven with several of your remarks slanderous or not have been refuted. Do it with well thought out and with superior intellect you must have as you judge mine to be poor. But you are not responding.

Come on get on it you are way behind.

I close with love, peace, harmony and a prayer "Praise the lord and pass the ammunition."

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Come on Glaucon, suck it up, respond to my answers to every remark you made slanderous or not.

Show us how point by point your superior logic, brains, talent; racist free self; will verbally destroy me point by point. No slanderous remarks, politely with decorum as you run your thread.

There seem to be six or seven with several of your remarks slanderous or not have been refuted. Do it with well thought out and with superior intellect you must have as you judge mine to be poor. But you are not responding.

Come on get on it you are way behind.

I close with love, peace, harmony and a prayer "Praise the lord and pass the ammunition."

Glaucon

I am hesitant to reply to this for a couple of reasons: Your intention doesn't seem to be to understand what I commented, or see in what ways we might find agreement.
Your purpose seemed to me to get me to say anything you could use to prove me wrong about something. It seemed your wanted a game that you are desperate to win and I don't like games and I don't consider winning and losing to be usefully involved in political discussions, learning, understanding, and the most important thing in a democracy: compromise, understanding. communicating and working together to heal our country and make is stronger. It is not good to challenge people, it is much more productive to merely ask them. Are you able to see that using the word, challenge, is what one would do if they werebeing bigoted.