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Nov 11, 2013 11:43:58   #
But how do we not vote for the wrong person when the games are being played at the voting booth, or as I pointed out earlier as we just experienced here in New York, when they are picking who gets notified by the Board of Elections when the vote is going down. There in stopping those who are known to vote against their agenda. I would suspect the point of telephoned surveys leading up to the election being the tool used for this purpose. But thats only a guess on my part. But the only place this possibility can exist. If true, there in showing it would not be something accidental.

This brings up back to what I pointed out of legal actions against these less then legal practices and what is derailing it from making into a court of law!


Bigmac495 wrote:
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About the only recourse we have is to not vote for politicians that are for gun control !
Write or E mail your representives telling them you aren't going to vote for anyone who wants gun control passed that will take away our guns from our homes or persons !
Argue for the right to own guns for personel protection .
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Nov 11, 2013 11:00:10   #
jay-are wrote
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Kiwegapawa wrote:
I had read through this thread the first time, as I do all those sections I choose to post to. This why I spoke of the changes to the bible in those of which we do know it happened in different times throughout history


So, you don't believe Jesus said what is written in Luke 16:18, or Mark 10:1-12, or Matthew 5-7.

Is there nothing true in anything in those passages?

You already knew what I said, I suggest you read it again. I do believe in Our Lord Father. I do not know what’s been changed, but we do know for certain that there were points changed. But I'm just repeating what I've already stated! To further the point, I've seen the Lord's Father Jesus Christ works in my life. I'll give you one of them right now in the here and now. According to medical Doctors, they cannot figure out why I am alive. According to them by all means I should be dead. This being said by many of them over the course of my entire life. I have a Zero blood sugar count. According to them because of this, and never ever taking Insulin, I am supposed to be dead. Yet my heart beats, blood courses through my veins, I think, I breath, therefore, I am alive. You know what I tell the doctors. You see who carries me? They say no,, those foot prints in the sand, they are not mine! LoL They are my Lord Fathers.. And this just one of many I have experienced in my Life Time. Need I say more! Well other than repeating another point once again, I have studied the Bible under many with their Doctrine most all of my Life since I was say 10 years old. Saying this where personal recognition kicks in. All we can say to address those points of what changes were made, why did those who made changes to the Bible have in mind as of doing so personally? I'd still like to read what was original, before those born in Sin did their thing with it!
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Nov 11, 2013 10:26:46   #
You are absolutely right Larry, but one thing further to mention. That pin points anti-gunners sole purpose in the finite. This new point in Gun Registration, is meant totally to override our current laws. This where the existing laws do not allow the invasion of privacy in Registered Guns. There in protecting the lawful gun owner. It is not one large data base that the new Gun Registration would have at one designated department or there in building. As these points are contained by local law enforcement from one community to the next across the United States. But only any point of Law Enforcement are allowed to use these points of Registered Guns according to current law. And they are accessible to all points in Law Enforcement. They are not available to the United Nations as what the finale' of the Anti-Gunners are pushing for in that of the UN ATT wants!

larry wrote:
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Hold on, Hold on yall.. I believe yall are mixing up two entirely different points here. Registered guns are not gun registration. It is the point of forensics in identify a weapon used in a crime in the use of a guns manufacturers registration numbers. This for ballistics in identifying a gun used in a crime. This very seldom to be overcoming the use of barrel patterns to the point of an identification number to the correlation of the rifling pattern of the barrel. The point of these laws already on the books for a long time.
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On this point, if a gun is registered, it IS gun registration. How can you possibly separate the two? If a gun is registered to the maker, and not the user, that might be possible, but what good would that do the Police. The maker of the gun is already printed on the gun. So if it is registered to the Seller, that only tells them who sold it. If the seller writes down the serial number, that registers the gun, to the buyer. From that point on, this buyer is the registered owner.
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This is something you will never see coming from the Anti-Gunners. They lie, cheat and use many a smoke and mirror trick to bring about their new world order and to break down our God given rights as our forefathers painstakingly specifically put together to stop such attempts of Absolutism of a tyrannical nature! All I will further say once again, "Only From My Cold Dead Hands"
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Nov 11, 2013 09:29:33   #
In that I'd mentioned Accra, Ghana I had a second thought to even understanding this area even better. In to recognize the effect it's still having on the United States recently. Accra, Ghana's Kotoka International Airport was the staging ground for the 9/11 attack on the US in that of the World Trade Center, the US Pentagon, and God Bless those that stood in harm’s way and crashed in the Pennsylvania Field! If you'd like to see how deep the rabbit hole goes and the expenditures we as tax payers have been and still are paying there? This will give you leads 6 ways to Sunday. but there in gets off topic of this thread.
http://mylogicoftruth.wordpress.com/tag/africa/
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Nov 11, 2013 02:14:00   #
Oh yea, and he has not been a child since before he left England. As I said, he has started his church. I don't know of any child that has ever started a church. Course that doesn't mean there hasn't been one out there that I've never heard of...
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Nov 11, 2013 01:47:10   #
But most forget the point of the start of slavery in the United States and blacks came to be used instead. As it was Native American's they used first, but the slave traders that owned ships showed them that the Africans where a much more hardy breed of slave. As most the natives used as slaves were being killed through the paces the Plantation owners were putting them through. Even that of what was termed the Civilized Tribe owned slaves. This of the Cherokee just before the Trail of Tears.

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You are correct Banjo, the people taken from Africa were already slaves when they were purchased by the traders and then sold throughout the world. They do not teach this to our children. There were indeed thousands of white slaves to African owners but they were not blacks. Research that a little more. Start with the history of South Africa under Dutch Rule.


Most of those slaves were taken from the Ivory Coast of Africa. This also called the Gold Coast. To the specific of what it is called today is Ghana. Accra, Ghana to be specific. Slavery still goes on there illegally to their own laws today. As last year 2012, a small fishing village just north of Accra on the western coast was caught with about two hundred children kidnapped from north Ghana that a fishing village were using as slaves. These children were 12 years old at the most. But it was Interpol that brought the villages mass slavery to an end. Course they still today don't do anything against the red light district in Accra that use children in prostitution houses there. As I've seen, even Interpol has not stepped into that one yet?
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Nov 11, 2013 01:13:30   #
Krogers 336 Loop, Krogers Restaurant, We were sitting in the third booth from the back on the south side of the dining area. KKK boys were in the last and second booth from the back on the south side of the dining area. We were "all" Night Stockers for Krogers. I was working there as a second job at the start of the 80's. About all I can tell you, I surprised them when I stood up an confronted them on their unsolicited comments. See I wasn't just a Yankee as most put it. I was the other kind, a damn Yankee... LoL! As a lot of my close friends called me that after that day. ( You know, walking up to them and just within ear range. " Here comes that Damn Yankee! LoL... Back to the story.) As they did not expect a challenge to their self-appointed authority. And to reassure you, I know, this is not the norm of Texas. Cause I still have many friends there who would have done just as I did.. And if anyone in the entire of all the United States know the roots, of what started the Republican Party, and what it was started for, that would indeed be Texas. As they know as well as I, it was all against the Democrat Capitalist bound to the corruption of slavery!

I installed all your store fronts to all the 1-2-3 cinema’s down there with ESP Glass. Also built most the Homes in April Sound and Walden. And Breakfast Cook for Shippley's Donuts.


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I grew up in Houston, Pasadena actually, I am very familiar with Conroe, not a klan town as far as I know.
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Nov 11, 2013 00:33:32   #
I had read through this thread the first time, as I do all those sections I choose to post to. This why I spoke of the changes to the bible in those of which we do know it happened in different times throughout history

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You are coming into the conversation very late. I spoke to the exception clause earlier in this thread.

Go back and read everything I wrote from the beginning. I am not going to start the argument over again.
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Nov 10, 2013 23:06:04   #
Well, it is a multiple faced problem. First too much complacency by citizens like you and I. Not say you and I are, but those this does reside in. A second piece of the problem reside who are and have of those in all points of law enforcement. This where there are obvious points of infractions to the law. And Law Enforcement does not correspond in the point of their office to serve and protect. This where they decide what they will pursue and what they will not pursue. In the point of them pursuing an infraction to the law, most times they decide not to pursue a case without putting before their superiors or to that of a District Attorney. Or as the case may be without putting it before the Attorney General. Most times these cases are decided against pursuit if they are coming from citizens such as you and I, who have reported a crime. How they evade pursuit, by telling you a lie, where say criminal cases are said to be civil when indeed they are not.


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So, how do we stop this kind of bull crap. Just knowing about it doesn't nullify the action of it. Are we totally helpless to these kinds of shenanigans?


Unless there are more citizens, stepping to the plate on these individual cases, things will continue to go on as they have. The higher the number of people involved the larger the chances something will be done about it..
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Nov 10, 2013 22:24:17   #
Saying the Obama Administration is not in corruption is like saying the Pope in Rome is not Roman Catholic. How many bold face lies have we caught Obama in? 10 ? 20 ? Here is a basic concept for you about the President " Uncle Tom Obama"! In his oath of Office, did not Obama say he would protect the United States Constitution? So tell me then, How is it he signed the United Nations ATT? If the "Uncle Tom Obama" Administration is not in corruption, How is it he handed over 6 trillion dollars of tax payers’ money to banking criminals who already been proven to be in lies one after the other ranging over 30 years showing them to be lining their own pockets from the proceedings coming from such lies. Who there in to all amazement lined their own pockets once again with the bailout monies? Tell me was it the American Tax payer economy he was help out with these actions. And these are just two of the many points of the President "Uncle Tom Obama"'s Administration should be convicted on for the actions against the US Constitution!

As in this country,, there is no such thing as an innocent by-stander in the United States. This since a bar room Rape that went to the Supreme Court. Where an entire bar room of people were found guilty of Rape. They all witnessed the crime, but none did anything to stop the rape of a young girl by 6 guys on a pool table. There in, from then on, If watching a felonious crime in its commission, if you do not cease and assit in some form of fashion to stop that felony, you can and will be charged with the commission of the felony in being an accessory to that crime. There in ending the days of the Innocent by-stander. That making the rest of the Obama Administration can also be held accountable for his actions. And him signing the UN ATT was one of many of his acting against his oath of office..


GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
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LARRY: The corruption isn't in President OBAMA administration, the corruption is in the U.S. Congress who is manipulated by the special interest lobbying's money, Republicans and Democrats don't represent the majority americans, they passed the best laws money can buy only. The President of the U.S. can't do anything without the U.S. Congress approval.

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I think the majority members in Congress should be fired also, because they represent the special interest only, no the american majority.


I would agree on your second post. All except for Kristen Gilldabrand. I know her to be a Lady of her word, and to stand for her constituents. As I am one of them. She is a Democrat, I am a Republican. I have never seen any actions from her that I did not agree with 100%. I've known many Democrats, but she is the only one who would get this endorsement from me! The rest of them need to be tared, feathered and rode out on a rail!
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Nov 10, 2013 20:34:33   #
No I don't get upset about who you called AJ. I do know the story you speak of. No doubt finding that young baby in a pile of dead bodies they had just shot and killed all these old men, women, mothers and children. I would imagine guilt was built in him really deep when he pulled her from the dead. From what else you tell me, sounds like you have had access to documents not previously seen. You can expect an Email from me in use of the same ID. I would very much appreciate reading the material you have. I'm always looking for new views or views I hadn't seen on it before. As before my people lived with the Blackfoot, previously we were with the Cherokee. Our transition started here in New York at the place of Algonquian Mountain. We left this area before the Europeans started to reach our shores. This due of the Blood Feuds, became a bit much for the Kickapoo. As the Urion had been cannibalistic, and my people were their main diet. Our numbers as low as they were, why we left and joined the Cherokee in the south. When the Spanish showed up we left for the northwest where we joined the Blackfoot. Hence the name the Blackfoot gave us in Kiwegapawa. In English, "He Moves About".


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Hi again. I re-read your post and I do apologize for playing with your name...twice yet. Suspected the name was native American but told myself I was imagining it. Should have read your entire post instead of rushing to reply from the opening lines. You might be interested in information I have about the situation of native Americans here in the Midwest in the first half of the 1800s and extending into the 1870s--info related to Henry Gratiot, whose pioneer rock house we lived in for 35 years...quite a history I'm eager to pass on. My email is toadhat@att.net and if you send me your email or address I'll email or mail chapters to you on the subject...too long to put in the forum & not exactly a political subject (though Henry's son-in-law was U.S.Grant's political sponsor & his grandson mayor of Chicago). I have some related art copies I could send photocopies of also. Henry died in 1835 but his son-in-law told the Wisconsin Historical Society in the 1870s that wandering native American still came to their house in Galena, IL and camped on their lawn and in their library knowing Gratiot would welcome them, and the daughter of the niece of the family that in the 1870s bought the Gratiot house south of Shullsburg, WI told me how her mother used to tell about how terrified she was as a child when native Americans would come to the house asking for "Gratiot." The Winnebagos requested Henry Gratiot's presence at the treaty negotiations in 1829. The paintings from those negotiations came from a Swiss immigrant brought to the negotiations by Gratiot. His father was a French fur trader in the 1750s, uncles the Chouteaus who founded St. Louis & fur traded to the west & north, cousins partners with Astor in fur trade, etc., etc.
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But within that of blaming an entire group of people for the actions of a few, I do not do. In these points are indeed prejudice. Why it is my belief we really need to stop pointing fingers at an entire group of people, there in finding the individual or faction responsible for the creation of corruption to run amuck. As to like the rules of this forum and what Admin points out, it opens the door to other forces of the same degenerate mindset compounding the situation into even worse circumstance. There in, what you had called, Aspergerish in / or Ill tempered. I call, applying force in an equal opposite action. As to point at a whole group in blame for an action of one or a few, is indeed over embellishing a given situation and there in escalation. If you escalate a situation, you have to at the least expect an opposing force to be equal to that which is applied.
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Nov 10, 2013 18:37:56   #
Hold on, Hold on yall.. I believe yall are mixing up two entirely different points here. Registered guns are not gun registration. It is the point of forensics in identify a weapon used in a crime in the use of a guns manufacturers registration numbers. This for ballistics in identifying a gun used in a crime. This very seldom to be overcoming the use of barrel patterns to the point of an identification number to the correlation of the rifling pattern of the barrel. The point of these laws already on the books for a long time.


To the confusion of a second registration invading the privacy of the individual owner having to registered guns owned by an individual to a data base. This used by Anti-gunners for the point of confiscation of all guns of all gun owners. This when the final ax is dropped in a pushed through law without the correct checks and balances of our legal system. This just shown here in New York State done by Governor Cuomo. Where he crossed into a point of enacting an illegal point of well undershooting the minimum 3 day period to allow state legislation viewing of any new law before it goes to vote. Also to see that his law made it through to passage. they made sure all legislators opposed to such a law were miss-informed that it would not be brought to vote until after the time for viewing it. Then minutes after these legislators had left the Assembly building, that very evening they were miss-informed. Those of Cuomo brown nosing crew passed through the legislation. Bringing into the point of high capacity magazines. This even to the point where state and local law enforcement can't fully load there side arm or rifle magazines. There was much more in this piece of legislation passed. But my point here is of the illegal tactics those of our politicians are willing to go to leaving their own citizens unprotected, in their mad rush to enact poorly thought out legislation which does not do anything but produce more problems. As they knew it would be opposed and there in rejected if all members were present. These points used to stop crime based illegal gun use in which it was purposefully miss-stated in saying it would correct! But showing positively of the lies and conjecture of our criminal politicians we have in Office today..
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Nov 10, 2013 16:08:51   #
In as far as party line go, this is not where my grudge lie. It's more to the base of where it starts. As there are indeed problems on either side the line. Just as voting for a President that has grown to the place of voting for the lesser of the evils. So has the point of those with the House and the Senate that bring about party line divisions voting for the lesser evils about laws we do not need with riders of pork barrel projects that are over bloated giving path to many abuses in the use of our tax dollar!

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Man, do you have a grudge against this Democratic infested congress. I agree with you that things should be better controlled, and better organized. The problem is that this congress, is floundering around trying to be a Mother to everybody, and instead has become a Mutha' we don't want or need. The government should not think it knows best for us, let us figure it out ourselves, if we want them to do anything we can ask. They think we are so stupid that we don't even know how to ask. I am asking now, Stay out of my personal business. And kill this career ending, stinking income tax system, and also the consumer tax system. A pox on it all. Surely we can find a better way.
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To me, I'm always training my eye to who is starting the BS on Capitol Hill. Liken to the point where the greatest proportion of the, time = tax dollar is spent in Congress. With one Congressman of Congresswoman is spending a great deal of time blowing sunshine up the skirt of another Congressman or Congresswoman for 15 to 20 minutes each time one of them gains the floor to speak. And this the smallest of abuses to start. As the pompous BS they spread at the greatest amount of time that the tax payer cannot afford. This just barely the start you'll see from me. But these points of Government work for us, not the other way around. And it is my belief we start to make them feel the truth of that point. It's overdue for the citizens of the United States to become the Scrooge of a taskmaster. And those of the haughty politicians to get it straight, that they are only Bob Crachette and we're about to cut them down to one lump of coal a day! No mine is not a wide angle as you think. Cause it is my belief if you pick and pull out the corruption from the government. Those politicians in constant abuse! This being done would indeed bring around a greater use of ethics with OUR political system. The day of them making token gestures must come to an end! Time to impose the lean mean Citizen machine....
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Nov 8, 2013 08:07:05   #
I can't help but see the unmistakable comments over and over again. Democrats this, and Republicans that. Don't yall see what’s going on here? What is going on here is not one party or the other. Or hadn't you noticed those politicians jumping sides, from one side to another to attempt to get the winning votes? No, by no means is it the Republicans or the Democrats that are at fault in any of this. Please, leave that mindset behind. It is indeed the Have's against the Have not’s! The Rich man against all else. These are the majority of decision making agenda's that are going on in DC and all the capital hills across the United States. Until the voters get this straight, these politicians are going to continue with their divide and concur routine towards us... They are pushing down the middle class into a majority of poor. They are cooking up schemes to keep that money on the top. Now with jobs be sold overseas and H1Bs brought into the US, they are now picking up the crumbs and taking that back to the top. We really have to start making our aims towards the basic of the problems and target those politicians responsible, be they Republican or Democrat. The party line bull is their mastery over us of what they are wishing to manipulate us into voting for when they've got us pointing fingers at one or the other party. Left or right, straight up the middle. It's time for us the United States Citizens to take the helm. And without you and I targeting the bad guy politician at the top for removal from office, we are all going to suffer even worse for it!

Like those appointed to positions like Social Services,, those points there that I've pointed out already who are now fleecing Child Support monies. This ends up a domino effect that ends in a tax payers pocket. This for something already paid for, yet the one paying it is being called a dead beat and in some cases thrown in jail when those monies had been already taken straight from their payroll. Yet the checks and balances lets the payer holding the bag cause those of the game played by employer/family court/support unit. They purposely cut the communication so the suppossive called dead beat can't verify the money transfers taken straight from their payroll. Some of these cases go on decades without verification. This just one of a hundred scams run that cleaning the mill. Many point used to keep welfare rolls on welfare. This of medical problems that there are operations for. The where medicaid keeps giving hoops to jump through, yet not getting the medical operation that would correct the problem keeping them from going back to work. These are some of the corruptions I've seen people going through myself time and again. I have no doubt yall more than likely have seen other scams of the like being played right in this very same place. It does not take to much to see the majority of social workers do perpetuate the neccessity of their own jobs through cases they maintain. This just one little item of many we need to get a handle on. They refuse to do it.. Consantly setting in bad plans that make worse what they were suppose to fix. But if they fix it, they'll loose their funnel of our money!
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Nov 8, 2013 06:31:02   #
LoL, Ok, so I see you wish to mince your idea of standard color bearings in calling black, white so to speak. And you lke miss-representing things people say, by stating things seen that are not there in someone's statement. So please show me the degragotory word I used in asking you a simple of question. As to ask someone how something of a disscription in what they are finding, is not being defensive.

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Wow are you defensive or what?? Your bright green is not the only color on the computer screen. And yes, yours is bright with the sand colored back ground. It's not paper bag color. There is bright yellow, bright blue, dark blue, black, and now your bright green if one wants to read your post or comment. Most people keep their monitor screens calm for the eye. Yours is bright. Wanna take me to court or something over it???? Maybe jump out of your pen a little nicer at first?


On second thought, I don't wish for you to show me anything. As your word shows right off you are wishing to pick a fight and promote your word to be gospel. One manufactured by your own making. So please take you minipulations elsewhere as they are not going to work generated towards me. As your inferiority complex needs adjustment. So expect no more replies from me to your advertisment to whatever your agenda is. As you had at the MAB Forum about a year ago. This when I left that forum due to you and a second fiddle of your buddies. As to communicate with you, is only allow you to further blow things further outside the reality they are based in. I thought I had recognized the ID. But simular ID's do happen between different web site. So I just let it go, till now and your brand of attempted control over others is an unmistakeable trait, well marked in a dysfunctional complex of fear. Now you've proven yourself to be one and the same. I leave this conversation with you to say, a suggestion, adjust your CGI color pattern, your monitor, aka graphic card is set for. As green or dark green is not a light, nor bright green and your color pattern presets are apparently out of adjustment. These color patterns of Red/Green/Blue are set up by the Admin. I doubt highly that he or she has readjusted them from the standard. As if they were, they would be showing that way here also. Or any other of the dozen computers I have here on my home network. There in, directly corallated to manufacturing standards. As mine, here are indeed set to the standard. Other than that, I have nothing more to say to you.
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