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Nov 27, 2013 21:26:04   #
son of witless wrote:
Hey buddy, do you keep track of your responses? Do you care if you contradict yourself? Previously I asked you if President Obama lied when he said you could keep your health care plan if you liked it.

Please explain to the audience how your last comment does not conflict with your answer to me then!


He's just a pot stirrer.
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Nov 27, 2013 21:24:55   #
bmac32 wrote:
Keep em for one reason only, to keep employers straight.


thats about it
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Nov 27, 2013 16:14:49   #
bmac32 wrote:
Keep em around fer shiz and giggles.


There are some who think they are the end all. But, those are the same ones you can't get to do their job half the time.
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Nov 27, 2013 16:08:46   #
lpnmajor wrote:
Republicans wanted it but when Barac does it, it's bad? The insane are never aware that they are - insane.


So what authority does he have to break the law? Only congress can make law. They done that. He can't change it without going back through congress. At least not legally.

And it wasn't the employer mandate they wanted changed. It was the enrollment mandate. This is the second time he has given company's a break.
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Nov 27, 2013 15:25:45   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And yet you are still listening 15 pages later!


Uh that would be my business. And I will respond to you this one last time.
Listening is not responding, you do understand that. It is not your posts that I read.
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Nov 27, 2013 14:53:11   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
You have just lied I submitted proof the other day to the contrary that some had read it, and you admitted to the fact that it was true! Don't make me go back and repost your comment!


do it.
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Nov 27, 2013 14:52:24   #
bmac32 wrote:
Oh for sure they were needed in the 1920's 30's but today they became more of a political arm. Unions and politics are a poor mix.


Yes they are a part of society that I am not sure is really needed today.
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Nov 27, 2013 14:49:51   #
maahoney585 wrote:
Our beloved Monarch has just now delayed the ACA Employer Mandate one more tine. This time it is until after the 2014 election.
Three things come to mind:
There is no provision in the law for the delay.
The delay is 100% political.
We the People will not suffer from 100 million losing their healthcare until after we've elected a whole new crop of politicians.


It is all political. Hopefully everyone will see that and get rid of the Dems in 14
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Nov 27, 2013 14:43:28   #
bmac32 wrote:
I have nothing against unions per es but in my case the union could add nothing to what we already had, complete health care (4 plans to choose from) dental (4 plans) eye, only cost was a one time $25.00, 2 week vacation (week added every 5 years), 12 sick days (don't use them get paid them on Dec 1, 401 (you put a buck the put two up to 5% of your pay) now I ask what could a union add?


That sounds pretty much like what I have now. Unions were at one time needed to clean things up. Now that things are cleaned up I am not sure that they are actually needed.

oh, just called. No more donations to Democrats. I had thought about telling them I wanted to change it to Ted Cruz. :P but I was nice. :wink:
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Nov 27, 2013 14:39:38   #
bluejacket wrote:
yes choosing sides is a function of human behavior , and we can't get away from being human , but we do have control of how we interact with each other , for as the conversations become more and more caustic the desire to listen is diminished


Yes, but, god gives us the choice to listen or not. I always listen I just don't always agree. That said it is one's own choice of views and that is fine with me. :lol:
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Nov 27, 2013 14:32:08   #
bmac32 wrote:
The four P's are not my responsibility. (Piss Poor Pryer,Planning)


:thumbup: :thumbup:
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Nov 27, 2013 14:25:18   #
bluejacket wrote:
yes we do think alike on this subject , as this is in the realm of faith , and politics is in the realm of man with all the foibles of man , Saint Cyrill said the problem with the human condition is the human condition


Politics is the choosing of sides. It really has no place in Government. If there were no party lines, things would be much simpler. The founders warned against party's saying it would cause factions and divide the country.
They were genius.
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Nov 27, 2013 14:21:38   #
bmac32 wrote:
See there's choice. You joined a union shop and I did not, in my case the union could add nothing other than dues with I felt would look better in my bank account rather than theirs. Democrats don't want choice, it easier to have someone else think.


That was easy. :thumbup:
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Nov 27, 2013 14:17:53   #
bmac32 wrote:
See there's choice. You joined a union shop and I did not, in my case the union could add nothing other than dues with I felt would look better in my bank account rather than theirs. Democrats don't want choice, it easier to have someone else think.


I agree. I am about to piss some people off with the Union tho. They make a huge donation to the Democrat party. It comes out of my Union Dues. I am of the understanding that it is an option. I am going to opt out. Getting ready to do that right now.
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Nov 27, 2013 14:02:43   #
DASHY wrote:
Do you buy auto insurance? How about auto registration? Do you pay real estate tax? How about income tax?

The Constitution was not intended to address each and every law government finds necessary to protect us. You will not find that going through a red light is addressed in the Constitution. If you choose to go through the red light and get caught, however, you will get to pay a penalty. When you joined the Union you had a choice. You gave up the opportunity for a new job to stick with the Union. The same is true of the ACA. You still have a choice. Buy the insurance or pay the penalty. Like the choice to join the union, the ACA insurance requirement might be in your best interests.
Do you buy auto insurance? How about auto registr... (show quote)


First, Auto insurance is not the issue, driving is a privilege. If you choose to drive then you buy auto insurance. That is state to state and is regulated by the states. If you do not drive then you don't have to buy it.

Health insurance should be regulated by the states. The constitution gives no authority to the Federal Government to force anyone to buy anything. period.

The Constitution is the law of the land. It sets the guidelines for all other laws. It even gives guide lines on who has what authority. It does not give the President the authority to make and break law's as he pleases. Not this president or any other.

When he gives these cut outs. He is breaking the law and should be treated as a criminal. That goes for any other president that has done the same.

And your right about one thing. I made the choice to work in a Union shop. I don't regret it, and would make the same choice again if I had too.
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