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Oct 14, 2013 07:04:09   #
1OldGeezer wrote:
Eden, you may be partially right in your assertion about past immigration, legal immigrants did come here to work at jobs where the companies/farms couldn't find enough American workers. This started when there was essentially low American unemployment and the program has continued to this day, very poorly administered by the government.
When you mix the ILLEGAL immigrants into this discussion a
different situation is the result. The Illegal workers are often abused by the companies under the ever present threat of exposure if they ask for reasonable treatment/wages/living conditions. "We" are abusing these people.
The other part of your comment stated that this had to be part of a "comprehensive" bill, that is the part that I would disagree with.
Now, consider this, we need to enforce/administer the provisions of the existing laws regarding these LEGAL workers when a legitimate need for workers is proven by the individual companies and simultaneously enforce our other immigration laws regarding Illegal "visitors" who come here to stay. We don't really need additional laws to reward these illegal immigrants with amnesty/a jump ahead of the persons who have applied to legally come to this country.
I would solve it this way,
1. Implement/enforce the E-verify system (fine companies who don't comply in the effort to identify the illegal workers.) (If persons contemplating coming here illegally understood that they could not get a job because of E-verify use, this would very significantly cut down on the illegal border crossings, maybe even make the fences much less important).
2. The persons identified by this system, if they are working (which is likely because an employer identified them) then give them a work permit visa, (make them legal so the employer has no unreasonable hold on them and overall wages might come up and the jobs become more attractive to American workers just entering the work force).
3. Then allow them, if they wish, to apply for permanent status by using the existing immigration laws; Thus, to be fair, they would have to get in line with the law abiding persons who chose to apply for citizenship before coming here.
We really don't need additional "comprehensive" laws which punish the law abiding immigrants, will simply encourage new waves of illegal immigration, and do not solve the basic problems of illegal immigration.
"Comprehensive" has simply become a political code word for amnesty for future voters.
1oldgeezer
Eden, you may be partially right in your assertion... (show quote)


HERE! HERE!! I whole-heartedly AGREE with You! AND...if your Parents are Illegal..sorry, but You are too.
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Oct 14, 2013 06:56:29   #
proud american wrote:
You got it brother....limit terms cut their benefits work 5 days a week live like the common folk so you will understand what is important and real make them pay for health care if some of them werent there all their life they would be out in the street homeless both parties are equally at fault lets get a giant broom and sweep them all away


5 days!? here in SD we usually work 6-7 days a week. very few, if any, paid days off. Vacations, Paid?? wow!! most of my Life has been no Vacation. Right to Work state...I now have a job with both!! Owners started with little to nothing and are the Best Employer in this area! I think congress should be abolished, as We know it now. with todays Technology, they can do majority of there job from Our State Capitals! where we can see who they are meeting with behind closed doors...
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Oct 14, 2013 06:48:15   #
can We bring back Tar n Feathering!!? Judges r thinking public humiliation is good for Us. Y not them?
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Oct 14, 2013 06:44:55   #
as soon as the 1's responsible for financial meltdown are...
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May 26, 2013 18:08:31   #
We should be arresting the Wall Streeters and Bankers and Congressional Crooks that drove our Economy to its' knees first. When We set up Camp in Enemy territory...We will lose people.
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May 26, 2013 17:56:27   #
For 1 thing...How did We let "Them" decide that illegal non-citizens can have offspring that are Legal Citizens? Since our Guv'ment knows there are 12 million Illegals here, then they must know where to go pick them up at. Round 'em up and send them back. And then We must deal with the Others we've let in and know nothing about (ie- Boston Bombers). this world has changed and We can't keep letting people in without knowing everything there is to know about them. There's a Process and i'm sure it sucks; but, until a better Process is put forth- just deal with it.
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May 26, 2013 17:34:36   #
Hello! to all ! I have NO faith in either Party! they r both rotten to the core. WE need to beat these people back in their place. We've let politicians do serious damage to Our Country over the last 50yrs. and it might be too late to stop Us from the certain crash We are heading for. i think Congress is Infinitely more dangerous to Our Country than POTUS. They have split Us with alot of BS topics, while they and their accomplices are robbing US blind! None of our differences will matter when this Ship goes down...
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