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Nov 15, 2015 19:30:24   #
RWNJ wrote:
Why don't you just read the book. You might learn something. But you won't, because you're afraid of the truth. And who are YOU, and why should anyone listen to you?


Why should anyone listen to me?
It might be because I'm one of the few on this forum who can figure out what makes sense.
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Nov 15, 2015 19:25:27   #
emarine wrote:
Sorry Adolf... I almost missed these reply's... Now we're making some headway... repeat this 10 times ... I'm a Nazi tool... then maybe you'll see things more clearly... it's more than obvious to me that some Nazis remain... putz... you've already dropped the ball in your false efforts to help the people of Palestine... the only real reason for Anti Zionism in the world... so your side show is all about Anti Semitism blame and hate...racists and bigots have played that game for century's... Spare me the Israeli minister's far left wing opinion and the humping mouse's, that's getting old too... So you think that I an Israeli plant where Hebrew is my first language... Not even close Adolf... I am American to the core and ready and able to defend her and our allies... are you?
Sorry Adolf... I almost missed these reply's... No... (show quote)


Since you ask for it, here again is that list of famous Jews who say the same things about Israel and Zionism that I do.
You say I am all about anti-Semitism and hate but you can't say that about the Jews on this list. Why is that?

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake … the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."


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Nov 15, 2015 19:11:37   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
That was my first thought when this guy showed up here, padre, but I am no longer convinced that there is anything available in the field of psychiatry that could help such a chronic mental pathology.

"See No Evil" is a book written by a 25 year veteran CIA field agent. He spent most of his career working in the ME sh!tholes, and, in this account, he documents the radical decline of the CIA intelligence capability. The Clinton administration "defanged" the CIA when it installed PC bureaucrats to run the agency and they replaced the critical work of the field agents with satellite and communication technology. Clinton essentially closed down the shop by pulling the agents out of the game. It was just too "messy" working with live human beings. The agents could no longer recruit indigenous insiders to gain the kind of deep intelligence that satellite images and comm intercepts would never be able to provide. Technology simply could not penetrate the meeting places, coffee houses, safe houses, back alleys, and headquarters where terrorists met, contrived, and planned.

Moreover, Islamic Jihad leaders are not stupid. They figured out rather quickly that, in order to defeat technological intelligence gathering, they would avoid using technology (radio, telephone, cell phones, internet) to communicate their most critical work. They developed a very effective network of human couriers.

In addition, as much as the rivalry among the various LE and Intel agencies had always been a problem (including working with foreign agencies), under Clinton it grew worse. The entire intelligence system broke down and fragmented to the point that the fight among the agencies, the jockeying for position, and the lobbying for budgets took precedence over their primary missions. The big three--CIA, NSA, and FBI--were at each others throats 24/7.

I shudder to think what our intel capabilities are now.
That was my first thought when this guy showed up ... (show quote)



You seem to forget that it was under George W. Bush's administration where the intelligence system allegedly failed.
I don't think it failed at all. I think it functioned exactly as planned. Remote controlled planes hit the towers just as planned. No plane hit the Pentagon just as planned. It was either a bomb or a missile. Muslims got the blame just as planned. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld got their wars just as planned.

You missed an important point Robert Baer made in "See No Evil." He explained that U.S. CIA agents stay at U.S. embassies to do their clandestine work in foreign countries.
This explains why U.S. embassies are attacked so often.
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Nov 15, 2015 16:40:02   #
RWNJ wrote:
Everywhere muslims gather in numbers, they cause trouble. These are not extremist causing these problems. It is the general muslim population. They do this because they are obeying their prophet. A murderer and a pedophile. Here is the truth about mohammad. Read it, and learn something.

http://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/chapter-one-early-life.html?


Who is Harry Richardson and why should anyone believe what he writes?
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Nov 15, 2015 16:14:58   #
padremike wrote:
Son, please seek help.


Your cliched comment earns you a chance to refute this 9/11 evidence against Israel. Be forewarned, no one has yet been able to refute this evidence even after many postings.

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI
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Nov 15, 2015 16:03:55   #
cesspool jones wrote:
Eat yer mother's shit


My mother's shit goes into the cesspool where you hang out.
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Nov 15, 2015 16:03:09   #
Wolf counselor wrote:
We're not interested.................PUNK!!


Who is "we"?
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Nov 15, 2015 15:02:36   #
missinglink wrote:
It takes zero effort to assassinate your character. You handle that department quite well yourself.
Evidently you will not be able to overvcome your self proclaimed brilliance and overcome your self imposed fixation so every time you jump a thread out of context with your endless Zionist dribble I will respond.
Fini


So in your twisted mind, it's open season on Muslims, yet there can be no criticism of Zionists even though they were the very first terrorists in the Middle East and continue to be one of the worst terrorists in the world for their massive bombing raids on Gaza.
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Nov 15, 2015 14:51:05   #
"&#65279; Those who claim that this destructive cult’s ideology reflects some essential aspect of Islam are obscuring its origins—in George W. Bush’s illegal war that destroyed Iraq and fomented sectarian extremism."

&#65279;Last week a debate erupted over how “Islamic” the so-called “Islamic State” group (ISIS or ISIL) in Syria and Iraq is, and whether it is legitimate to speak of “Islamic” terrorism. It was provoked in part by a Graeme Wood article in The Atlantic and President Obama’s speech to a conference on Combating Violent Extremism. Obama was slammed by former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani as allegedly not loving America, in part because he declined to speak of “Islamic” terrorism. On Sunday, former defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz, interviewed on CNN’s State of the Union show, called Obama’s refusal to use the phrase “Islamic terrorism” “silly,” saying, “I think people understand that Islam has something to do with what we’re fighting, and when you deny it, you lose a lot of support.” This debate is actually about what philosophers call “essentialism,” and, as Giuliani’s and Wolfowitz’s own interventions make clear, it is about absolving the United States for its own role in producing the violent so-called “Caliphate” of Ibrahim al-Baghdadi.

The question of phraseology is easily dealt with. The word “Islamic” in Arabic, and in English as well, has to do with the ideals of the Muslim religion. It is thus analogous to the word “Judaic.” We speak of “Islamic ethics” as a field of study, just as we do “Judaic ethics.” Not all Muslims or Jews conform to the ethics preached in their religious traditions. Some are even criminals. But then they are Muslim criminals and Jewish criminals. They are not Islamic criminals and Judaic criminals. Likewise in Catholicism, one speaks of Patristic theology, referring to the religious ideas of the Church fathers, but wouldn’t talk of bad priests steeped in that theology as Patristic criminals. It is because both in Arabic and in other languages “Islamic” refers to the ideals of the Muslim religion that both Muslims and people with good English diction object strenuously to a phrase such as “Islamic terrorism” or “Islamic fascism” (fascism was an invention of Christian Europe, in any case).

Those, like Giuliani, who insist on speaking of “Islamic terrorism” want to shape our language so as to imply that the Islamic tradition authorizes the deployment of terrorism, which the US federal code defines as using violence or criminal activities to intimidate civilians or government for political purposes, with the implication that the perpetrators are themselves nonstate actors. But the Islamic legal tradition forbids terrorism defined in that way. Moreover, Muslim academics contend that the Koran, the Muslim scripture, sanctions only defensive war. Giuliani does not know more about the Koran than they do.

Read more . . . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-islamic-islamic-state/
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Nov 15, 2015 14:37:47   #
missinglink wrote:
No. I am capable of much much more. Like I've said before and WELL SAY Again, " I will not get on your mentally delusional merry-go-round. ". It's not worth the time nor effort. Feel free to spin your wheel as quickly as you please. You can not goad me into sharing your ride. There is simply no positive realization for me or you.
I will however continue to reply to your nut house blather and you will no doubt try again and again into goading myself and others into jumping on board.
I am merely posting my base response to your never ending fixation.
So, ain't going to happen sport. My original response is all your a gettin !!!!!
Goad away. :D :D
No. I am capable of much much more. Like I've said... (show quote)


As I said, you're not capable of serious intellectual interchange.
Attempted character assassination is your only agenda.
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Nov 15, 2015 14:33:40   #
Truthy Truthington wrote:
Why isn't it a false flag operation?

Video, pictures, witness testimony, half the police force in Paris was activated, First curfew since 1944. Turn off your Alex Jones, twat.


I'm guessing you believe 19 Arabs with boxcutters could slip by the intelligence system in the U.S. which costs about $60 billion annually, and bring down three skyscrapers using only 2 planes. Another of the large airliners is alleged to have disappeared completely into the Pentagon through a hole only 20 ft wide and 12 ft tall.

If you believe that, there will be no hope of waking you up to all the other false flag operations which continue to occur on a regular basis. Why are these false flag operations carried out? It's the maintenance required to keep the bogus war on terror (Muslims) up and running.
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Nov 15, 2015 14:11:32   #
Jokerswild wrote:
Calling Payne1000 a moron is truly an insult to all morons world wide. With thinking like this he has a loooong way to go to even get close to moron status.


Now we have even more new trolls coming out of cyberspace.
ADL and C.A.M.E.R.A. must consider me a serious threat to their propaganda industry.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:41:28   #
SamDawkins wrote:
I cannot find any fault with Dr. Bob Bowman his credentials are impeccable. His background is to greatly admired. I will always have questions about 9/11. However I feel it is a distraction to the subject of this thread.
Thank you for your opinion.


If you don't see how 9/11 being a false flag operation relates to Muslims being blamed for the Paris attacks, then you're not considering who benefits. Muslims certainly don't benefit from the attacks. Muslims the world over will be persecuted because of the blame placed on them. Israel benefits the most because Israel wants France's Jews to be frightened enough to move to Israel. Israel also wants payback for France voting to recognize Palestine in the UN. Any further demonizing of Muslims takes the heat off Israel for the atrocities they are committing against the Palestinians.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:27:57   #
Truthy Truthington wrote:
Oh no, we're not playing the burden of proof game. You're a moron.


It didn't take long for you to reveal that you're a troll.
Trolls don't debate. Insults are your substitute for communication.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:00:47   #
Truthy Truthington wrote:
Only someone with the intellect of a five year old would think this is a false flag operation. Go crawl back under your rock.


Maybe you could share your knowledge of why it isn't a false flag operation?
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