payne1000

" Those who claim that this destructive cult’s ideology reflects some essential aspect of Islam are obscuring its origins—in George W. Bush’s illegal war that destroyed Iraq and fomented sectarian extremism."

Last week a debate erupted over how “Islamic” the so-called “Islamic State” group (ISIS or ISIL) in Syria and Iraq is, and whether it is legitimate to speak of “Islamic” terrorism. It was provoked in part by a Graeme Wood article in The Atlantic and President Obama’s speech to a conference on Combating Violent Extremism. Obama was slammed by former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani as allegedly not loving America, in part because he declined to speak of “Islamic” terrorism. On Sunday, former defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz, interviewed on CNN’s State of the Union show, called Obama’s refusal to use the phrase “Islamic terrorism” “silly,” saying, “I think people understand that Islam has something to do with what we’re fighting, and when you deny it, you lose a lot of support.” This debate is actually about what philosophers call “essentialism,” and, as Giuliani’s and Wolfowitz’s own interventions make clear, it is about absolving the United States for its own role in producing the violent so-called “Caliphate” of Ibrahim al-Baghdadi.

The question of phraseology is easily dealt with. The word “Islamic” in Arabic, and in English as well, has to do with the ideals of the Muslim religion. It is thus analogous to the word “Judaic.” We speak of “Islamic ethics” as a field of study, just as we do “Judaic ethics.” Not all Muslims or Jews conform to the ethics preached in their religious traditions. Some are even criminals. But then they are Muslim criminals and Jewish criminals. They are not Islamic criminals and Judaic criminals. Likewise in Catholicism, one speaks of Patristic theology, referring to the religious ideas of the Church fathers, but wouldn’t talk of bad priests steeped in that theology as Patristic criminals. It is because both in Arabic and in other languages “Islamic” refers to the ideals of the Muslim religion that both Muslims and people with good English diction object strenuously to a phrase such as “Islamic terrorism” or “Islamic fascism” (fascism was an invention of Christian Europe, in any case).

Those, like Giuliani, who insist on speaking of “Islamic terrorism” want to shape our language so as to imply that the Islamic tradition authorizes the deployment of terrorism, which the US federal code defines as using violence or criminal activities to intimidate civilians or government for political purposes, with the implication that the perpetrators are themselves nonstate actors. But the Islamic legal tradition forbids terrorism defined in that way. Moreover, Muslim academics contend that the Koran, the Muslim scripture, sanctions only defensive war. Giuliani does not know more about the Koran than they do.

Read more . . . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-islamic-islamic-state/

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

We're not interested.................PUNK!!

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Eat yer mother's shit

payne1000

Who is "we"?

payne1000

My mother's shit goes into the cesspool where you hang out.

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Got me

RWNJ

Everywhere muslims gather in numbers, they cause trouble. These are not extremist causing these problems. It is the general muslim population. They do this because they are obeying their prophet. A murderer and a pedophile. Here is the truth about mohammad. Read it, and learn something.

http://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/chapter-one-early-life.html?

payne1000

Who is Harry Richardson and why should anyone believe what he writes?

RWNJ

Why don't you just read the book. You might learn something. But you won't, because you're afraid of the truth. And who are YOU, and why should anyone listen to you?

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Mommy's shit.

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

RWNJ, this dude iz a product of over-edumacation without the brain-power to work common sense into what the professor is babbling

RWNJ

Have you read it yet? It's not boring. Lot of good information in there. If you haven't read it yet, Please do. You won't be disappointed.

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

I wrote it down...wil check it out. Can just imagine

RWNJ

The author has spent several years studying islam. He uses their own historical writings to tell the story of Mohammed. He claims that you cannot understand islam without knowing the story of mohammad. And an interesting story it is. Someone should make a movie based on what this guy has to say.

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

It won't be liberal land Hollywood...they love Mohammad