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Jan 27, 2018 16:03:23   #
permafrost wrote:
That is the point... all that stuff is what we have already paid for...

so now that we spent the money, we are kicking the out..

How does that make any sense at all???





We're still paying for em. And as I said if you want em, you pay for em.


Of course, you won't, but you think it's ok for the rest of us too.

Keep your dam grubby paws out of the taxpayer's pockets.


And your still a troll
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Jan 27, 2018 15:10:46   #
permafrost wrote:
What part of "we have already paid for the education and upbringing or these people" don`t you understand????







Then you pay for em.
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Jan 27, 2018 15:08:33   #
[quote=Nickolai]They should all be brought home and the US quit sticking it's nose in other peoples business and trying to rule the world like a new Rome[/quote





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Jan 27, 2018 15:07:50   #
permafrost wrote:
What part of "we have already paid for the education and upbringing or these people" don`t you understand????





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Jan 27, 2018 15:04:22   #
permafrost wrote:
As illegal entry into the US is a misdemeanor and subject to a $200 fine, lets send a bill each of the 800,000 and let it go at that...

Majority on welfare??? Not so, in high school, college or the military or hold a job..

1. What is DACA?

DACA is the acronym for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, a program created in 2012 by the Obama administration allowing young people brought to this country illegally by their parents to get a temporary reprieve from deportation and to receive permission to work, study and obtain driver's licenses.

DACA applicants had to be younger than 31 years old when the program began. They also had to prove that they had lived in the United States continuously since June 15, 2007, and that they had arrived in the U.S. before the age of 16.

Those signing up for DACA must show that they have clean criminal records. They have to be enrolled in high school or college, or serve in the military. Their status is renewable every two years.

2. Who are the DREAMers?

There are about 800,000 DACA recipients, also known as DREAMers, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Most arrived from Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. There are also several thousand from Asia, primarily South Korea and the Philippines. They reside in every state, with the largest concentrations in California (222,795), Texas (124,300), New York (41,970), Illinois (42,376) and Florida (32,795).

The term DREAMer is derived from a legislative bill, first introduced in 2001, called the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act. It has yet to be approved by Congress.

3. Why was DACA created?

Unable to find a legislative remedy to protect minors who were brought to this country through no fault of their own, the Obama administration created the DACA program through executive action in June 2012. Conservatives accused Obama of overstepping his authority, but they brought no legal challenge.

The DREAMers are a highly organized group of young people who argue that, after being raised and educated here in the U.S., they are Americans who only lack legal recognition.

At the time DACA was created, Obama's executive action had strong public support according to a 2012 Pew Research Center survey, which found that 63 percent of those polled approved of the program.

A more recent poll by NBC News/Survey Monkey found that nearly two-thirds of Americans favor allowing the DREAMers to stay in the U.S.

4. Why did Trump end DACA?

During the campaign, Donald Trump railed against illegal immigration and promised to reverse what he called President Obama's "unconstitutional" executive actions.

But as president, Trump began backtracking. Early on, he said a decision about the fate of the DREAMers was "very difficult" for him, but "we're going to show great heart." As recently as last week when he was asked about his impending decision, Trump said "we love the DREAMers."

Conservatives, who had anticipated swift action from Trump, repeatedly urged the new president to keep his pledge and "pull the plug" on DACA.

In June, 10 Republican attorneys general moved to force Trump's hand. In a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, they threatened to launch a legal challenge against DACA by seeking to amend a lawsuit stalled in federal court. That lawsuit opposed another Obama executive action called DAPA, or Deferred Action for Parents of Americans. (Announced in November 2014, DAPA would have expanded DACA protections to certain undocumented parents whose children are legal residents or citizens of the U.S.)

The Republican attorneys general, led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, gave Trump until today, Sept. 5, to decide DACA's fate.

5. Will the DREAMers be forced to leave?

Not immediately.

According to the Department of Homeland Security, DACA will be phased out, with an official end in six months.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will process all new applications received as of Sept. 5 and then stop accepting applications. DREAMers whose work permits expire before March 5, 2018, can apply for a two-year renewal, but they must meet an upcoming Oct. 5 deadline. The government will not terminate "previously issued deferred action or revoke Employment Authorization Documents."

But the announcement by DHS also ends on an ominous (for DREAMers) note: DHS will "continue to exercise its discretionary authority to terminate or deny deferred action for any reason, at any time, with or without notice."

The process announced by U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions is designed to "create a time period for Congress to act — should it so choose."

There is no way of knowing whether Congress will ever come to the DREAMers' rescue and craft a plan that salvages any of the protections brought by DACA. In a statement about DACA, President Trump called on Congress to act, but he did not specifically endorse legislation to preserve it.

It is also not clear that if Congress fails to act, DREAMers immediately would become ripe targets for deportation. In his statement Tuesday, President Trump said, "I have advised the Department of Homeland Security that DACA recipients are not enforcement priorities unless they are criminals, are involved in criminal activity, or are members of a gang."

Trump tweeted Tuesday night that he will "revisit this issue" if Congress doesn't legalize DACA.

But DACA advocates say they already have documented cases in which DREAMers, with valid DACA protections, were apparently targeted by agents of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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Jan 27, 2018 14:59:10   #
PeterS wrote:
Davie and I weren't talking about illegal aliens.

His question was: When is the last time the Democrats actually did something for minorities, other than give them crumbs for breeding fatherless children?

Which was the reference to my answer.






Your still a traitor to this country. You're like a pig with a happy face on. But still a pig.

And I'm not wanting to insult any pigs.
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Jan 27, 2018 14:53:40   #
permafrost wrote:
I only hate to see such a stupid waste of money.

However it is dug out of the pockets of the tax payers..




Hey, ding dong. Where was your outrage when the ovomit bailed out the banks?

Funny I never heard you say a thing about the 600 + billion spent by that piece of shit, and not one job created.

How about Solyndra, the California-based solar company that went bankrupt after receiving $535 million in federal loan guarantees from the ovomit administration.

All that was tax money.

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Jan 27, 2018 07:53:52   #
Chocura750 wrote:
The 2.6% was much lower than anticipated and raises concerns with economists whether, in fact, President Trump actually has the ability to increase economic activity by bullshit.






Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents in the history of this nation.

This asshole barely averaged 1.5 % GDP in any of the 8 years he was in office.
And you have the gall to complain about Trump.

Pull your head out of your butt.
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Jan 27, 2018 01:34:15   #
How is it they forget?

I dam sure would never forget anyone that saved my butt. Ever!


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Jan 26, 2018 20:53:56   #
Airforceone wrote:
You can’t handle being in control you have controlled Congress now for 7 years and you’re still whining like children. 8 years of control the deficit is exploding, you just created another Bush wealthy tax cut bill by Trump which is going to explode the deficit again by $1.5 trillion, and you want the democrats to vote on an additional $20 billion for a useless wall. And you’re idiot legislators have not even started talking about an infrastructure bill.
Instead a $20 billion for a stupid GD wall that Mexico was suppose to pay for why not start fixing some roads in this country.
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I would find it very nice if they would build a wall around your sorry ass. Then they can keep you away from the little children. Course we won't talk about the shovel ready jobs your benefactor said we would have. Then turned around and said, opps sorry, I gave it all to the banks ... along with his cut, I'm sure.

Best pull your head out of your butt boy. So if the wall is so stupid, you pay for there sorry ass.
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Jan 26, 2018 03:00:34   #
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/25/nikki-haley-skewers-mahmoud-abbas-at-un-security-council-meeting.html



U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley launched a broadside Thursday at Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, accusing him of indulging in “outrageous” conspiracy theories about Israel and lacking what is needed to secure peace in the region.

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Jan 26, 2018 02:22:51   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
There's a major hitch in your surmise, sarge. No common ground exists between Americans who love our nation and our way of life and those who want to "fundamentally transform America" into something alien to us. I, personally, cannot abide so-called citizens who have wiped their asses on our constitution, who have spit in the faces of Christians, who accuse Americans with guns of being nutjobs or psychos or terrorists, who have corrupted our culture, brainwashed our youth, and who have instituted and legalized the murder of unborn children. The list goes on.

I too am a veteran, I live in a fairly small town that is populated by a high number of veterans and their families. Per capita, this little burg has more American flags flying from vehicles, homes and businesses than any place I've ever been. Folks here sport bumper stickers and yard signs saying, "My son is a US Marine", or "My daughter is an officer in the USAF". There are yard signs that say, "Blue lives matter." During the presidential campaign in 2016, I did not see a single sign or sticker supporting Hillary or Sanders.

Standing with America and defending our way of life is not biased, prejudiced or hateful, it is our duty.

One thing is certain to me, there is no working "through our opinions" or finding common ground with leftist progressives, the gap is unbridgeable. So, what is the solution?
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Jan 25, 2018 18:55:53   #
Loki wrote:
I can see your point. Compared with the matchless military records of Blowjob Bill and Obama, Trump should be ashamed.





Now that's funny Hi loki.


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Jan 25, 2018 15:10:40   #
permafrost wrote:
the protest by Kapp and a few went unnoticed for over a year.. While not at all what you think it is, no attention was paid until your orange substance mouthed off about it and created world wide attention to the protest..

so, had to be inflamed!!! Trump did it . now you think it is something evil.. you do not know what it is about, but it must be bad, your orange fizz did not like it..

Seems the NFL is correct.. Only trump and company is wrong..

Thought you right wingers no longer liked football.. what became of that idea???
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You're so full of S%%t, when the wind is right, We can smell your stench up here in WA State.
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Jan 25, 2018 15:07:34   #
drlarrygino wrote:
Here is a very unfortunate fact, Perm, and your side owns it, and you can chew on it but don't choke. The NFL has refused and rejected an ad by a veterans organization to post an ad in the Super Bowl magazine which advertises, "#PLEASE STAND FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM". The big leftists in the spineless NFL say it is too inflammatory!! Now Perm do you see how your side has infected everything it touches!!! Who would have ever thought that the NFL would become a mouthpiece for deranged leftists and their groups ? The left took a great American pasttime and politicized it and ruined it for many years now. Colin Krapperdick can wear socks with cop pigs on them and receive adulation but Tim Tebow bows in prayer and he is excoriated. The NFL players can take a knee and disrespect our flag and the military and receive no fines but our veterans can't even post an ad favorable to America and our flag. Your side (leftists) are spineless Perm and any moral person knows it intuitively. One does not even need facts as you can observe it right it front of your own eyes!!!
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