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Jan 15, 2014 14:41:32   #
While I certainly regard myself as a liberal, I do not agree with Obama on many issues.For one thing, I believe that his foreign policy regarding Iran is dangerous and should be rethought. I have problems with the Affordable Health Care Act. I don't think it went far enough, and should be replaced with a single payer system modeled after the system that they have in France and other European countries. Lets remember that he did save the American automobile industry wether you like the way he did it or not. He was responsible for the killing of our good friend Bin Laden. The economy is improving slowly but surely, and we are ending the long nightmare in Afghanistan and Iraq. All this despite the crazy opposition coming from the right wing of the Republican Party. Not bad when you consider that the Republican dominated House passed fewer bills than any other Congress in decades, and wasted their time trying to repeal Obama Care over forty times. I'd say that for a traitor he did a pretty good job.
RetNavyCWO wrote:
In other words:

"If you do not agree with my rightwingnut perspective, then you are truly a closed minded far left liberal who can do nothing but espouse hatred as all liberals do and bow down to the God Obama."

Right?

That's the problem with you guys: unless everyone agrees 100% with all of your viewpoints, they must be "far left liberals" and "espouse hatred" and "bow down to the God Obama."

And you blame Obama for dividing America.
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Jan 15, 2014 14:22:18   #
I am amazed that you call me a bigot. I have spent my life fighting bigotry in all its forms. I taught in some of the worst African- American neighborhoods in New York City. I took part in boycotts and sit down strikes even though I was in Junior High School. As far blaming this country for the problem that Mexico is having with drug lords, Many of those guns used by drug lords were purchased right here in the good old US of A! Try not to become personal when you argue a political point. It does nothing to advance your point of view and indeed makes you look almost as silly as Fox News and its star, Rush!
Bogey Time wrote:
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Wow , I will agree on one point you make.
It take some bravery to take stimulus funds and implement operation Fast and Furious. And simultaneously sending Hillary to mexico to blame America for Mexico's gun problems!!!

You are Child like to still not see the Fraud that define this Prez
and All that is the progressive movement and its "fundamental transformation" of America. Your Racist Reasoning makes you the most Transparent Bigot Today.

If you do hold to your promise make sure to vote several times like you did last election! Hah.
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Jan 15, 2014 14:09:31   #
Tina Fey was quite entertaining as well.
RetNavyCWO wrote:
The best entertainment I've seen on tv in the last few years were the Republican debates in 2011 and 2012. Can't wait for 2015 for Season Two! Next season's cast is going to be even better than last season's!
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Jan 15, 2014 14:07:12   #
God informed us of what is right and what is not in the Bible. I have no interest in changing my religion or in convincing others to change theirs, therefore I will not engage in a religious debate with you on line.I am not a Hindu, but I believe they have a point when they say that there are many paths leading to the mountaintop.
jay-are wrote:
What you need to do is find out what makes sense to God. Unless you are God, you don't have any control over who goes to heaven and who doesn't. God makes those calls, and the only thing that matters is what makes sense to Him. And He explains all about it in the Bible if you care to find out.

Jesus said, "you will know them by their fruits." So if the guard's fruit was that he tortured and murdered Jews, that can be understood as bad fruit and therefore he is a bad tree. What did Jesus say happens to bad trees?

Matthew 7
18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.
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Jan 15, 2014 13:39:15   #
Another holocaust denier. All I have to say is that my uncle was among the troops that liberated a concentration camp in Germany. He had nightmares from the mass murder that he saw for years. When you say " single scholar, I assume you mean a single nazi scholars.Hitler was right in one thing, if you make a lie big enough and repeat it often enough, people will believe it. I assume that you believe that the ovens found in so many of the death camps were for weekend bar-b-cues in exclusive hotels. There has never been so much documentation of a crime as the Nazis mass murder of Jews and others deemed by Hitler to be somehow inferior to Arians whoever they may be. I think that you have to be a person that is sympathetic to the racist beliefs of the Nazis Seig Heil!!
Daanl wrote:
None of your listings are accurate. Not a single one. I spent years reseaching the places you named. I am for my race. You are for destruction of it.
You are either a liar or a lazy worthless
anamaly. Neither speaks well of you.
You are like a baby bird waiting for the. " gumnent" to feed you and pipe your beliefs into you. I challenge you to read the Nuremberg trial transcripts.If you ...even you. do not see the obvious fraud, I will be happy to point out to you the OBVIOUS lies in there.As for your reference to " Death Camps" there is not a single scholar who will stand beside you.applauding. got my gist?
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Jan 15, 2014 13:17:36   #
Tollerance for others beliefs is certainly not an important point in Christian doctrine. I never understood why Christians believe that only those that believe in the divinity in Jesus can be saved from hell. I picture a nazi concentration camp in wich Jews have just underwent torture and death from an ss guard. The Jews were for the most part good people, and the SS guard was a sadistic murderer. On his death bed the SSman converts to the Christian fait. According to stian doctrine, the SS man would go to heaven, while the Jews that he tortured and murdered would go to hell because they did not believe in the divinity of Jesus. Makes no sense to me.
larry wrote:
You are assuming, that those that are not following God knowingly chose not to. People have been deluded to follow many different make believe gods created out of their own imagination because they did not see the true God. These people believed that they were worshipping the true God. They were led astray by Lucifer. thinking inanimate and self created objects were their god.

In their ignorance and their blocked exposure to the true god, they invented god. Just as most do today. Their problem is that they chose the wrong god. One of their imagination. God knows that, and although they know OF God, they did not know God. Only those given special knowledge started to know God. Those that have been mislead, will have the same chance that those who were on the earth when Jesus came to explain the truth. You are purposely defending an untenable position. Putting in God's words things He has not said, but using your interpretation of them to suit your fancy.

You are not reading the bible with the eyes of love, but with the eyes of hate. Turn your thinking around , repent, and look at it from a sensible viewpoint. As an example, when a child runs out into the street in front of a car, He knows full well that a car is dangerous because his parents have told him so, but he is ignorant of the result of his careless actions. His parents have to impress on him the imminent danger in those actions, without letting him get injured. It is difficult to do. Unless he becomes more knowledgeable of the results, he will find it hard to believe that just running in the street could be fatal. It takes more exposure to events sometimes to believe something he has not experienced. So too are those that know of God, but have never found Him. They are not ignorant of God, just not experienced.

This is not an excuse, it is just lack of information that is necessary. Many atheists refuse to acknowledge God because they have never experienced God in their life. They do not want to, they want to ignore God. But as soon as they feel the loving power of God, they change their tune. Criminals often change their direction when they experience God in their circumstances. You cannot deny that God will search for those that are afflicted with lack of knowledge. Knowing something exists is not knowing about it.
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Jan 15, 2014 12:53:25   #
Maybe I misunderstood you. I thought that you were advocating that the public school system should be abandoned.
jay-are wrote:
Minimum standards for schools is a valid function of government. Being in control of schools is not a function of government.

Your assertion that the state would become an oligarchy in which the rich would have absolute control of the state assumes an inherent evilness of people. That may have been true in Russia, but what makes America different is that the people are inherently moral, decent, caring, sharing, and fair. Given that, they would not want to create separate and superior schools for the rich, they would want to create the same quality education for all. If you want that, why do you assume the rest of us are evil and would deny you that?
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Jan 15, 2014 12:02:38   #
Not so. Education has been the responsibility of the states since the Articles of Confederation. Every nation in the world agrees.When my grandfather first came to this great land from Russia in 1910, the thing that impressed him most was the fact that his children could go to the same school as the children of the rich. If what you suggest came about, only the wealthy would receive an education, and this great country would quickly become an oligarchy in which the rich would have absolute control of the state. There would be no educated work force and we would become another third world country.
The US Constitution strictly forbids the state from encouraging or discouraging religion or favoring one religion over another. If you want to send your child to a religious or nonsecular private school, you are certainly free to do so. You are even free to home school your child should that be your decision. Lets do all we can to improve our public schools not do away with them. Before I finish my post I will say this. I try to be polite and respect others ideas no matter how much I disagree with them, but your statement makes me wonder. You seem like an educated person. How could you believe that our country would be better without a public school system with minimum standards.
jay-are wrote:
You make a good case for why education should not be a Government action. Government should divest itself from control of schools. Schools should be independent to teach however they want. By having schools controlled by the government, the government is violating freedom of religion . Children are easily influenced and cannot be considered free to choose, therefore, whatever controls the schools is imposing its doctrine, philosophy, or "religion," and that is prohibited by the constitution from being done by the federal government. The government may not restrict the right of schools to freely exercise any religion of their choice. Therefore, the government cannot constitutionally be in control of schools.
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Jan 15, 2014 11:39:16   #
How does Israel respond to a well meaning man like Kerry who is asking Israel to agree to all of the PAs demands. If Israel were to do so, it would mean replacing the Jewish state with a multi ethnic one in just like Lebanon, and we all know how well that works! It seems that Sec. Kerry believes that a terrible solution is better than none at all. One has to ask if Kerry is more interested in his legacy than Israeli security. All states have the right to protect themselves and determine what kind of nation they should be. If we are to have a two state solution, we must ask both sides to reach agreement while protecting their right to run their own countries as they seem fit as long as it doesn't threaten other neighboring nations.Even if an agreement could be reached, how will the terrorists in Gaza respond? I would list some of the outrageous demands that the PA is insisting on, but there is too little space to do so. I wish the people of Palestine well, but not at the price of Israelis independence.demise!ss
Zemirah wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/14/Israeli-Defense-Minister-Kerry-is-Obsessive-Messianic

Israel's Defense Minister, Moshe "Boogy" Ya'alon, is facing criticism from the opposition after slamming U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry. The Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot reported earlier on Tuesday that the outspoken Ya'alon had said that Kerry, who recently completed his tenth trip to the region in less than a year on the job, "turned up here determined and acting out of misplaced obsession and messianic fervor" for a peace deal.

Ya'alon added: "In reality, there have been no negotiations between us and the Palestinians for all these months --but rather between us and the Americans. The only thing that can 'save us' is for John Kerry to win a Nobel Prize and leave us in peace." Breitbart News offered a similar analysis last week, noting: "The real negotiations are not those between Israel and the Palestinians, but between Israel and the Obama administration."

In addition, Ya'alon was candid in his views of Kerry's plan for Israel's security in a peace agreement, saying that it was "not worth the paper it's written on....It contains no peace and no security." Israel's chief negotiator, Tzipi Livni, accused Ya'alon of harming relations with the U.S., but other politicians came to his defense. "The State of Israel can't sacrifice its security and it can't outsource the state's security to censors," one said.
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Jan 15, 2014 11:15:31   #
It is lack of regulation that caused the the recession. How do you stop a multi-billion dollar corporation from controlling prices, without some kind of regulation to control them? The answer is oversight by Uncle Sam. Just look at some of the great laws that came out of the progressive era. The pure food and drug act is just one. Sometimes I think that our national credo should be " in corporations is our trust". I do get it, I just wish others would!
Homestead wrote:
You really don't get it.

It is the regulation by government that creates the all powerful corporations.
Every thing from special tax breaks, subsidise, sweetheart deals, government contracts, to the suppression of any competition which makes these companies so powerful.

And none of it would be possible without the government regulating them, under the disguise of protecting us.

In the end the Robber Barron’s were financed by the European bankers which gave us the Federal Reserve and the IRS. All creations of the government for the global bankers.

Without government regulations protecting them, they wouldn't survive.
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Jan 15, 2014 11:04:04   #
I taught Modern World History for over fifteen years in Maryland. As part of the course, I taught about the Protestant Reformation, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam and many of the Chinese philosophy- religions. I completely agree with you. Students should learn much more about world religions. Learning about other religions and worship are very different. If a Muslim kid asked to be excused from class to pray, no problem, if the administration ever asked me to lead a prayer, I would have raised hell. According to the Second Amendment, the state has to remain neutral in all cases of religion.
I remember a mom coming into class to complain about me because her daughter " had a religious experience " while studying Buddhism in my class. Of course, I explained that her daughters " conversion to Buddhism was not in any way my intention. Can you imagine how many parents would be up in arms if I had the kids say a prayer that was part of a different faith?
Fortunately the nine wise souls in Washington have declared this practice to be unconstitutional. As an individual citizen, I am very much in favor of families going to their place of worship. but as an employee of the state, other peoples faith ( or lack there of) is none of my business!!!
larry wrote:
You disagree that children should be exposed to God? Yet you agree that they be exposed to Atheism? How does that make sense. Evolution is the devils way of taking our mind off of God. You seem to think it is all right? How about the moon is made of cheese. Is that all right? I do believe that teaching about different religions is worthy of our school system. It is not trying to convert or distress anyone to know the systems for which many societies have grown and believed. How much do you know about Babylon? How much do you know about the Egyptian system. How much do you know about Islam, and Buddhism, and any other system, If you do not get some knowledge of it. how can you teach it or even fight it.

We are not to be free of Religion, just to be free from having it forced upon us, it is a personal choice. When you know what you are choosing, you feel secure in it.

And besides, the nature of this country was conceived by certain religious beliefs. those beliefs should be honored as part of our history. You cannot know this nation unless you know it's foundation.
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Jan 15, 2014 10:42:06   #
I live in South Carolina, one of the most conservative states in the union. Our schools suck for the most part and workers are among the lowest paid in the nation. The politicians are often corrupt, and there is a problem with just about everything that state government is responsible for. I'd move to California in a heartbeat if it weren't so far away from family!
angery american wrote:
Know I understand why you are such a liberal...California, cesspool of America. Have fun when the Mexicans take your state, and you have to speak Spanish..Hell they already have taken it over. By the way...I just love Barbara boxer, Sandra Polosie. and Diane Finestien. My 3 favorite morons...I know you are SOOOO proud of them...Come to Ga. with your bullshit, and you won't have to worry about tar or feathers...
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Jan 15, 2014 10:35:10   #
I don't know anything about such a treaty. It sounds like a Fox News treaty to me, but in any case, the US Senate has to ratify a treaty. My .357 Magnum for better or worse is in my night table ready to go if needed and will remain so. I'm no lover of guns and wish we lived in a world were they were not needed, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon!
oldroy wrote:
I guess you don't know that Our Glorious Leader is still trying to push the UN Small Arms Treaty through the Senate. Even after they have voted against it he keeps on, but he has told you from his lean that he doesn't want our guns and you just can't believe that from him.
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Jan 14, 2014 22:41:05   #
If it walks, talks and swims like a duck, it's a duck. You can't tell me that what this " gentleman " said is not hate speech based on racism.
MrEd wrote:
It never ceases to to amaze me that for people that like calling other people bigots, you are total bigots yourself. You simply can't discuss anything without calling someone that disagrees with you a bigot or a racist. Why can't you just discuss something without calling people names. Is that all there is to your argument? I have yet to hear any argument against an idea, only name calling.

Just in case you didn't know it, those funny looking lines in blue that people put in the things they write are called links. If you happen to click on them, it will take you to where they got their information. All you need to do is read the article they link to and you can see the article for yourself and make up your own mind as to the truth or not. If you don't agree with them, that is fine, no one is forcing anything on anyone else here, just presenting ideas. You in turn are presented with every opportunity to post an opposition to them and you are free to do so, but you can't do something simple like that. You just have to start calling people names and that is your entire argument in opposition to them. Why is that? Are you so simple minded that you can't even post a coherent reply that other people are interested in reading?

I hate to say this, but if you can't be decent in your replies, then people will simple start ignoring you and you can rant all you want and no one will pay any attention to you. We will continue to enjoy each other and nothing you can do will change that. We can ignore you as easy as respond to you, so take your pick. Either reply in a decent manor or be totally ignored. Can you at least reply without calling people names? Even that would be an improvement.
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Jan 14, 2014 22:36:39   #
There is no one reason for the problems that you've discussed. Todays corporations are too powerful not to be regulated by government. This is nothing new. Just read about the era in US history between the 1860s and the 1920s. They didn't call the super rich robber barons for nothing!
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
So I'm reading about Obama's new Promise Zones. Really destitute for the most part inner city neigborhoods that are being special fed gov programs. Guess what one of them is and always is no matter what the deal is. Special tax breaks for business development.

Ok is it just as obvious to you all as it is to me?

Libs need to wake up and understand it's the gov that stymies growth and investment not cheap over sea's labor and greedy owners.
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