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Oct 18, 2017 11:28:56   #
cut and paste,, then lie about what was said,,,,,, like I said,,, stupid or lying,, take your pick,


Kevyn wrote:
Here is a video of the Cheeto Bandito in his own words making the claim.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=viDffWUjcBA
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Oct 18, 2017 10:54:58   #
Except he didnt say that,,,, you are mistaken,,or lying

Kevyn wrote:
As I said he forever owns his public promise to ban all Muslims, adding North Korea and Venezuela in an attempt to walk back his true intent is no different than a guy burning old tires in his yard putting a hot dog on a stick and telling the fire marshal it’s a bbq. It doesn’t hold water or pass the smell test. All anyone fighting the order has to do is play a video of the many times Trump promised the 100% ban.
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Oct 18, 2017 10:46:43   #
I guess the first amendment means whatever they think it means,,,, for them,,, not you,,,,, and uhhh,,,, "sepahhration o church an state"


JFlorio wrote:
Could you possibly be any stupider? The First Amendment? Quit worrying about things you can't control and get some education. Damn you're dumb.
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Oct 18, 2017 10:42:29   #
Wonder what leftists think the first amednment actually says??? or the second,,, wonder if they actually KNOW what it "amends"????

Loki wrote:
Firstly, it is NOT a violation of any Amendment, because it does not apply to US citizens or people already in this country legally. Secondly, thanks for the heads-up. Can you believe I had clean forgotten about all those Muslims in North Korea and Venezuela? Whatever was I thinking?
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Oct 18, 2017 10:15:49   #
Yet he actually didnt say what you claim,,,,, however,,, Obama did,,,, why is it ok for him??

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-mocks-trump-but-has-barred-immigrants-many-muslim-6-times/article/2594016

Leftists cannot tell the truth
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Oct 18, 2017 10:11:12   #
Nah,, none of that sh-t,,,,, happened


But he did increase the number of guns on the streets exponentially,,, and the amount of illegal weapons on Mexicos and Chicagos Streets.....
created ISIS, lost Iraq, and Afghanistan

And killed 3 times more american soldiers, than bush with his cowardice and ineptitude...... no wonder he is a hero of yours


permafrost wrote:
nearly every thing you do not like is good for the country..


Obama stopped the recession from becoming a depression.

rescued the auto industry.

Created a National health system.

Placed regulation s on Wall street.

Strengthened the EPA.


https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/marchapril-2012/obamas-top-50-accomplishments/


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Oct 18, 2017 10:05:29   #
Gruber was right,, the left is really really stupid


JFlorio wrote:
You know you just gave Dudley Never Right Nest a reason to espouse his cherry picked talking points. If he was to admit what you have written was the truth, which it is, he would then have to admit he's been played for a fool.
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Oct 18, 2017 10:04:48   #
nothing of what you wrote actually happened,,,, it didnt

Unemployment claims were over 200K for 96 months,,,,, usually around 275-300K,,,, when they went down to 200K they called it 75K worth of job growth..... it was a lie,,

Like Jonathon Gruber,,, said,, "They are stupid,,, they will never know that obama care was a scam."

And he was right about his followers,, ie YOU,,,, you still dont get it,,,,, never will


tdsrnest wrote:
How could corporate profits under Obama be the worst when the stock market went up over 125%.

Declining middle class wages began to go up after Obama got us out of the Bush recession. Seems you forgot that recession we were in when Obama took office.

76 straight months we positive job growth while dealing with a congress that blocked everything he tried to do.

Republicans destroyed unions eliminated collective bargaining and drove down middle class wages.

I guess you forgot that when Obama took office we were at 7.9% unemployment and losing 800,000 jobs a month.

Dealing with Two wars unpaid for and the Bush tax cuts. All unpaid for I guess you forgot that.

Stock market at 6300, banks going into bankruptcy needed a $785 billion bailout called TARP unpaid for. Housing market upside down I guess you forgot that.

But it's simple for Trump supporters just ignore that recession like it never happened.

But Trump supporters like to ignore real facts
How could corporate profits under Obama be the wor... (show quote)
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Oct 17, 2017 21:01:14   #
What do you think would happen if you told the truth????


Corporate profits and the gap between rich and poor was the worst ever under obama.......... the richest got richer and the poor poorer,, under obama

http://www.progressivestoday.com/under-obamanomics-the-rich-get-richer-while-the-poor-get-poorer/

"For all of President Obama’s talk about income equality and his “progressive” economic agenda, financial experts are making it clear his policies are eroding the middle class and stunting job growth.

Fewer jobs, stalled economic recovery, declining middle class incomes, larger income disparity, and rising corporate profits are all hallmarks of the “Obamanomics” policies implemented by the president during his first five years in office, according to Forbes contributor and policy analyst Peter Ferrara."

Wrong again ubergenius


tdsrnest wrote:
I enjoyed reading you're topic on the fading scent of the American dream.

So just to respond Corporate profits are actually on the rise. I have followed economist Joeseph Stieglitz and Luigi Zingles. I rarely post on these two because of the insults that I have received. But I do follow them and there writings.

But these two economist find the rise in corporate profits troubling for two reasons. First, higher profits as you say created greater economic in equality. Rising aggregate profits correspond to a decline in labor shares all to maintain these profits at the top.

Stock market up that means corporate profits up but they are choosing not to pay employees more. So Trump lowering corporate tax rates how will that equate into labor being paid more. How much more do they need to start paying higher labor rates.

If I take $2,000 and put that in the hands of the bottom 95% of wage earners economy explodes. If I take and put an additional $2 billion in the hands of the upper 1% wage earners all that does is increase the margins of income in-Equality.

But republicans choose to eliminate unions, repeal Davis Bacon act and totally remove collective bargaining.

If a democrat uses the statement of why are these corporate giants not sharing the wealth. You're called a socialist.

If you advocate unions and bring back collective bargaining you're called a Marxist

I really do wish you would entertain having a reasonable Debate on these issues. I found you're post very interesting to read.
I enjoyed reading you're topic on the fading scent... (show quote)
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Oct 17, 2017 20:52:09   #
whatever "reason" got you to your point of view,,,, was obviously biased,,,,,,,,,


PaulPisces wrote:
Funny, your comment makes me think you have done so as well, only on the other side of reason.
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Oct 17, 2017 19:18:58   #
obama care isnt good for america,,, neither now, nor when it was past by democrats only,,, with NO republican votes,,,,,,,,


It was a tax,,, not a healthcare bill

permafrost wrote:
His only goal seems to be if it was accomplished during Obama term.. kill it..

No matter how good it is for America or what problem evolve from ending it..

Only thing he has been consistent at is golfing nearly every week end and lining his pockets with taxpayer cash..
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Oct 17, 2017 19:17:59   #
you are thinking of obama,,, please wake up and look at what is happening now............


PaulPisces wrote:
Well, if you count leading our contrary to ruin, while at the same time lining his pockets and diminishing our standing in the world, then I suppose he is a leader. I for one am not following him.
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Oct 17, 2017 19:16:27   #
what is wrong with you???? nothing you wrote here is true..



tdsrnest wrote:
Trumps explanation at yesterday's press conference with his new friend Mitch McConnell (THEY HATE EACH OTHER) was that it took Obama 2 years to pass the ACA. But wait a minute Trump on the campaign trail you said he already had a plan so it seems simple day #1 submit it to his republican lead Congress overnight his repeal and replace plan done complete. This is what he told you.

His biggest lie on the campaign trail is (I HAVE ALREADY) a plan that will give everybody in this country health insurance at a lot less cost than the ACA.

Not to mention 7 years of republican talking points that republicans had a better plan to repeal and replace. Well where is it. Why did 11 Fat, white rich racist republicans have to caucus by themselves for 4 weeks excluding democrats from the negotiations, if Trump and the republicans already had a plan. Then Trump tells his base it's because democrats obstructed the bill. Now does any common sense in a Trump supporters mind kick in and say wow a bill written in secret no Democrats in the room and that's classified as Obstruction. Please Trump supporters put the shoe on the other foot.

So now Trump takes action he eliminates $9 billion in subsidies for poor families and classifies it as a slush fund for the insurance agencies.

But not sure why Oil and Farm subsidies are not classified as a slush fund. So no subsidies for the poor. But last year Shell received $1.6 billion in subsidies and there profits were $26.8 billion. Exxon received a subsidy of $216 million and they had profits of $41 billion. Marathon Petroleum received $78 million in subsidies and they had profits of $2.6 billion. Coal, Oil, and gas companies lobbying funds of $1.8 billion that went directly to republicans.

Globally just in 2013 oil, gas, and coal received $550 billion in subsidies and that's 4 times the amount given to renewables and renewables over the last 10 years has created more new jobs than oil, gas, and coal.

But I could go further with these corporate giants such as the billions that Koch brothers get in subsidies and pay millions lobbying against renewables subsidies. And the massive profits they make and the tax loophole holes allowed to these corporate giants that control the Republican Party.

But the point I am making is Trump supporters love the fact that Trump wrote an unconstitutional EO eliminating $9 billion in subsidies for the poor to obtain healthcare but is only to happy to give commercial farmers, Oil, gas, and coal companies an average of $98 billion a year in subsidies to the most profitable companies in this country. But can't give $9 billions so the poor can get health Insurance. This EO will cause 7.1 million people to lose healthcare from the private sector but will cause billions in increases to our Medicaid program.

This is called Trump logic and Trump supporters somehow lack the common sense to understand what Trump is actually doing.
Trumps explanation at yesterday's press conference... (show quote)
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Oct 17, 2017 14:24:52   #
Jesus was 33 years old,,, before he started his mission,,, and there is no evidence that he wasnt just like everyone else.........
byronglimish wrote:
I've been on plenty of construction jobs... you're right...
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Oct 17, 2017 11:23:19   #
Hell,,, Jesus was a "rough carpenter",,,, go on a work site and lip off,,,,,, and you will get your butt handed to you,,,,,,

byronglimish wrote:
Peter carried a knife of some sort...he did cut a ear off...
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