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May 23, 2018 09:00:47   #
[…] The investigation described in the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) report was cleaved off from the larger investigation of which it was a part, its completion expedited, and the disciplinary process completed in a little over a week. Mr. McCabe and his counsel were given limited access to a draft of the OIG report late last month, did not see the final report and the evidence on which it is based until a week ago, and were receiving relevant exculpatory evidence as recently as two days ago. (pdf link)

Within the Office of Professional Responsibility guidelines for Attorney Representation you might also note the following (again, emphasis mine):

The majority of OPR investigations are administrative in nature, and employees are not entitled to counsel as a matter of law. However, counsel may be permitted if counsel does not interfere with or delay the interview. Counsel must be actually retained by the employee as his legal representative, not as an observer. Counsel are not permitted access to certain confidential criminal investigative information and may not be permitted access to grand jury information.. (link)

Put both of those statements together, along with the underlying issues that Inspector General Michael Horowitz was investigating, and there’s even more likely evidence of the “outside Washington DC” prosecutor noted in the following statement from Attorney General Jeff Sessions:


… I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us; and we’re conducting that investigation.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/18/mccabe-firing-shows-evidence-of-ig-and-outside-prosecutor-working-together/
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May 23, 2018 08:58:27   #
JIM BETHEA wrote:
WELL Pres Trump just ordered the DOJ to initiate an investigation into the "Obama Administration Surveillance"...OK..Jeff Sessions, this is your que to take over "this one"....Can't say that Sessions is going after Hillary here, all he name may come into play....hee hee


These things have been under investigation since before Trump was inaugurated into office in Jan 2017, the Democrats demanded the IG investigate these things (weren't people paying attention??) Jeff Session's appointed Huber as AG to work parallel to Horowitz, they even have a Grand Jury in place, separate from the Mueller grand jury. It would be great if people actually paid attention to what's going on..


"There has been a great deal of consternation, directed toward AG Jeff Sessions surrounding the ongoing FISA abuse scandal and the larger issues of unlawful DOJ and FBI conduct in their political investigation of candidate Donald Trump. It is a matter of great division amid people who follow the details. Yet there is overwhelming evidence he assigned a prosecutor to conduct a criminal investigation of the FBI and DOJ “small group” a long time ago. Now we know, with certainty, a GRAND JURY is impaneled.

… I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us; and we’re conducting that investigation.

First, the question: If Jeff Sessions has appointed a prosecutor to work with Inspector General Horowitz, why do congressional reps keep asking for a second special counsel?

The answer is a lot simpler than we might think: They don’t know.

The legislative branch of the government doesn’t know what the criminal investigations are of the executive branch of government; AND AG Jeff Sessions has repeatedly said his intention is to restore the proper, appropriate and professional standards of the U.S. Department of Justice. (ie. no talking about criminal investigations)

Within this specific investigation there is a triple role. ¹A DOJ Inspector General conducting an internal investigation; ² Appropriate congressional oversight; and ³ the collection of evidence that might also be used in criminal indictments.

Within the IG collection of evidence there are two competing issues: #1) Evidence of misconduct and political bias (shared openly with congress and oversight); and #2) evidence of illegal activity (retained from congress to preserve integrity of evidence for later used in criminal proceedings); this is where the “outside DC prosecutor” comes in.

Which brings us to point #2

Accusations of DOJ hiding evidence from congress.

Several congressional representatives have stated the information about Judge Rudolph Contreras was not readily know because his association with Peter Strzok was redacted within text messages sent from DOJ to congress. Therefore the DOJ is trying to hide damaging information. That claim is not the correct framework/context.

Congress as a whole (reps, staff and investigators) can go to the DOJ and look at ALL unredacted text messages. However, if congressional staff wish to take copies with them the copies must be redacted. Why? Because, just like the Contreras issue within the Strzok and Page text messages, there’s a possibility specific texts are evidence of a crime.

Go back to December 2nd, 2017, when the first reports of the IG investigative findings were hitting the news media and you’ll note IG Horowitz said he has no issues with congressional oversight getting his investigative evidence with the approval FROM the DOJ. In this example the “prosecutor”, working with Horowitz, has to make a determination if a potential criminal case would be compromised by allowing the release of specific information/evidence gathered by the Inspector General.

Lastly, where all this appears to be going. It is not likely there will be a ‘second special counsel’ per se’. With a prosecutor already working with Inspector General Horowitz that person already has a thorough knowledge of all the evidence. As soon as the IG publishes his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses. And now we know there’s already a Grand Jury seated somewhere hearing the criminal evidence he/she has carved out from the overwhelming IG evidence as collected.

You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity for a myriad of righteous reasons. However, we must also remind ourselves of the scale and scope of the corruption here that is inherent within the BIG PICTURE. All of this was done on purpose. None of this was accidental.

The prosecutor could, likely would, be having to outline the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics. It is entirely possible officials within the CIA, NSA, DOJ, FBI, State Department, ODNI, and national security apparatus along with the Obama White House, Clinton campaign officials, politicians, career bureaucrats and possibly judges are all entwined and involved.

Just look at the media reaction to Andrew McCabe’s simple firing, which Trump had nothing to do with, and think about what their response would be to indictments?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/22/giddy-up-doj-admits-they-have-a-grand-jury-empaneled-in-fbi-and-doj-investigation/
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May 23, 2018 08:15:07   #
Morgan wrote:
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has either indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 19 people and three companies so far — with most of those being announced just in the past few weeks.

That group is composed of four former Trump advisers, 13 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Five of these people have already pleaded guilty — the latest being former Trump campaign staffer Rick Gates, who signed a plea deal and committed to cooperate with Mueller’s investigation Friday.

These are facts btw. Where you've been?
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has either i... (show quote)


lol, One of those companies didn't even exist during the election.

The crimes these four Trump advisers have been charged with have nothing to do with our election or even Russian interference in our election, Manafort and Gates crimes have to do w/ things that happened in Ukraine (and a case that was being investigated years ago, that a judge dismissed for lack of evidence).


The London based lawyer that was charged also had to do with what happened in Ukraine's election and right afterwords, and nothing to do with the 2016 election of President Trump. Please do yourself a favor and research the facts of the charges against them and just what they are concerning.

The cases against Carter Page and Flynn the judge is demanding the evidence against them be provided to him--Mueller is slow walking that as well--because he knows he has nothing..
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May 22, 2018 21:36:18   #
Oh, what's that? Yes, the DOJ has to review the demand for evidence because release of those documents might conflict with ongoing Grand Jury information (evidence). Yes, that means a Grand Jury is impaneled, exactly as we expected.

Yes, that also means there are "law enforcement actions" currently ongoing as a result of the prosecutor assigned to reviewing the evidence discovered by Inspector General Horowitz.





https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/bombshell_reveal_a_grand_jury_already_is_hearing_evidence_on_doj_and_fbi_scandals.html


https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/976944130042580992
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May 22, 2018 14:33:09   #
jelun wrote:
I talked to people who were both for and against Trump none mentioned getting their info anywhere but
funneled through Facebook.



So basically people read news articles that one of their friends happened to post a link to? That is what people mean when they say 'they get their news from facebook' given facebook is not a news media outlet.

So I am curious which news outlets did these folks write news articles for??
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May 19, 2018 15:07:44   #
tbutkovich wrote:
It’s the US Department of Justice under The Trump Administration (which outside of the appointment of Jeff Sessions, Trump has, for the most part, kept his hands off. Looks like at the bequest of his Attorney, he will likely become more hands on. It used to be the US Department of “INJUSTICE” under the Obama Administration.

“Heads will roll” if Trump takes more control over the behavior of the Department of Justice. We may see a new AJ and Deputy AJ soon and we will once again see the Department working for, rather than against, the American people.
It’s the US Department of Justice under The Trump ... (show quote)


Session's isn't going any where, he's doing what he was appointed to do--he's the head of the Department and He's appointing others below him to work at prosecuting various things..at last count there are "An unprecedented list of 24,500 Sealed Indictments has been released. This updated indictment list has grown by nearly 7,000 new sealed indictments in every US District."

https://squawker.org/politics/doj-releases-list-of-24500-sealed-indictments/
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May 19, 2018 14:57:59   #
Bwhahahaa..
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May 19, 2018 10:20:58   #
woodguru wrote:
In actuality there is a reason Mueller was (before Trump) one of the most respected law enforcement heads, he served under administrations of both parties, has had 100% votes, and people on both sides still see him as 100% reliable in terms of representing findings objectively. People looking at this clearly see evidence piling up, the kind that couldn't possibly be made up.

Wake up and start using sources that are reporting on actual document evidence, much of the supposedly fake news doesn't run with anything until they can corroborate them.

The new stuff out on Trump obviously lying about knowing about Cohen payments or if he got paid back is hard cold impeachable facts, no investigation needed by endless investigations, two hours of looking at the documents, vote whether to put it up for impeachment.

It's time for the GOP to have the "sir, it's time to resign or face impeachment" conversation. Trump violated hard rules about willfully lying to the public. People are so used to him being a liar that the right is going to scratch their heads and want to know what's different about this.
In actuality there is a reason Mueller was (before... (show quote)


This is funny...
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May 19, 2018 10:12:50   #
I had to laugh when I read this article the other day.

Implying these issues are 'just beginning' to be a problem in DC because of Trump, these things have been an issue up there for many years, and those who have paid attention have known this for years. The truth is, Trump's admin is shining a very bright light on just how bad things are up there, and people are just now seeing it for the first time (they have been sleeping).

Even here we see him calling out the lies from the Media elite and those who claimed to have had inside information about what was going on: Showing even then there was 'an integrity and ethics' problem in DC.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tillerson-takes-critics-no-hollowing-194554828.html

Then of course there is this ethics and integrity problem--again has nothing to do w/ the Trump Admin, but those who have been there for many years..


https://townhall.com/columnists/pauldriessen/2018/05/19/real-russian-collusion-the-dems-and-msm-ignore-n2482221?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

So, while the media prefers to 'imply' the issue is Trump or those in his admin, they fail to look at the reality of the situation, and where the deeper issues have been for many years.
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May 9, 2018 22:18:25   #
Stevewhatchamacallit wrote:
Anyone know if they have an extradition treaty with the US? If not...doubt she'll move there. Besides...not enough subjects to rule over, there.


She's not moving to NZ, but No, they don't have an extradition treaty w/ the US, which is also why Kimdotcom has stayed there.
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May 2, 2018 15:01:15   #
https://www.fscj.edu/academics/areas-of-study/education/early-childhood-education-bs



The curriculum is designed to provide a practical hands-on application approach to understanding early childhood education. Students must complete a minimum of 120 credit hours, of which 60 hours are lower division general education courses, and in the upper division, 24 hours of professional core educational courses, and 36 hours of major concentration educational courses. Both the professional core and major concentration areas are challenging as students are required to have fingerprinting and background checks and complete over 150 hours of field work in a VPK through third grade setting.

Students are also required to develop a professional portfolio and pass three Florida Teacher Certification Exams (GK, PED, & PK-3). The Capstone of the B.S. program is a student teaching internship. Students are assigned a mentor and are required to complete a full semester, full day, full week (M-F) internship at an accredited public or private primary (K-grade 3) school.
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May 2, 2018 14:54:22   #
Morgan wrote:
Exactly what kind of options are the giving blue-collar mothers?


The same, they can get and use those vouchers the same as any one else.
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May 2, 2018 14:49:07   #
lindajoy wrote:
What is their salary after securing such degree?? Who will be able to afford it after as well?? What person is going to be satisfied being a care giver after spending thousands in schooling??

I can see daycare providers needing to have CPR and others such safety measures in place in the event of an emergency but a college degree is an unrealistic requirement..

If they are teaching pre-K classes those people are typically licensed to do so by the state so I’m not sure what this proposed bill is intended to do.. I’d like to read it thats for sure..

The negative consequences seem to outweigh the benefits..Most of the classes daycare workers will be forced to take are irrelevant to caring for children anyway.. caring for children is live, patience, safety and common sense..

This appears an over reach and unconstitutional.. Having an associates degree is going to change what in caring for a child.??
What is their salary after securing such degree?? ... (show quote)


They have Early Childhood Education Degrees, they deal with infant to 3rd grade.

What is the pay for someone who has one these degrees? It depends on the Childcare center that hires them.

In some child care centers it's $10 an hour, in others it can be $13 or more an hour depending on how upscale they are, and how many years experience the person has working in the field (just like any job in that respect).


The cost to place a child in those centers is upwards of $160 a week per child above the age of 2. An infant can range about $180 to $190 a week, and then of course many of these places do give discounts if you have more than one child going there.


One of my daughters got this degree, was recently offered a job paying $15 an hour, she's been working in daycare centers since she was in High School, while taking an Early Childhood Education program there. Both of my daughters worked at the school daycare after school hours, the day care at their school was for school board employees. My other daughter went on to get her Elementary Education degree.

In other states the pay might be different.
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May 2, 2018 14:02:09   #
The special counsels office has told lawyers for Paul Manafort that it does not have evidence of any contacts between the former Trump campaign chairman and Russian government and intelligence officials.

Thats at least according to Manaforts attorneys, who disclosed details of the interactions in court papers filed on Monday night.


https://www.scribd.com/document/377903619/Paul-Manafort-filing


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Apr 29, 2018 23:02:54   #
This will make some folks angry when they realize the truth..

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/28/fbi-never-investigated-abedin-clinton-laptop-emails-in-october-2016/
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