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May 16, 2018 19:27:18   #
tbutkovich
 
The answer is:

The Justice Department doesn’t recognize Trump as the legitimate President. The Justice Department is still working for the leadership of the elite state, Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

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May 16, 2018 19:40:57   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
tbutkovich wrote:
The answer is:

The Justice Department doesn’t recognize Trump as the legitimate President. The Justice Department is still working for the leadership of the elite state, Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.


Yeap....

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May 16, 2018 19:44:14   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
tbutkovich wrote:
The answer is:

The Justice Department doesn’t recognize Trump as the legitimate President. The Justice Department is still working for the leadership of the elite state, Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.


There maybe some wishing for Obama.
He is ineligible for the office again.
But I say as far as national politics go Hillary is dead in the water.

Where there is smoke. there is usually fire.

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May 16, 2018 19:54:51   #
woodguru
 
First error, it's not Trump's justice department, his thinking it is and that he is in charge of it is his first and biggest mistake...

The DOJ does not answer to him, and he is supposed to keep a total separation from any appearances of control. When he personally interviewed prosecutors that was an absolute unheard of thing, especially in courts that might be involved with cases against him, his business interests, or family. He just coincidentally talked to the ones that would be in districts that would be prone to his interests.

Trump thinks the people he appoints are supposed to have a loyalty to him, he doesn't get that they work for the united states and if their job description crosses into something that comes up involving Trump their loyalty is not to Trump.

The DOJ is an equal branch, as is congress, although this one seems to be pretty loyal to helping Trump obstruct investigations.

It can easily be the job of the DOJ to "go after" Trump if something comes up that is their job to go after. It will be the DOJ that goes after him if Mueller's investigation shows reason, and if that happens the DOJ definitely doesn't answer to Trump.

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May 16, 2018 20:08:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
tbutkovich wrote:
The answer is:

The Justice Department doesn’t recognize Trump as the legitimate President. The Justice Department is still working for the leadership of the elite state, Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.


It's changing.

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May 16, 2018 20:13:42   #
tbutkovich
 
woodguru wrote:
First error, it's not Trump's justice department, his thinking it is and that he is in charge of it is his first and biggest mistake...

The DOJ does not answer to him, and he is supposed to keep a total separation from any appearances of control. When he personally interviewed prosecutors that was an absolute unheard of thing, especially in courts that might be involved with cases against him, his business interests, or family. He just coincidentally talked to the ones that would be in districts that would be prone to his interests.

Trump thinks the people he appoints are supposed to have a loyalty to him, he doesn't get that they work for the united states and if their job description crosses into something that comes up involving Trump their loyalty is not to Trump.

The DOJ is an equal branch, as is congress, although this one seems to be pretty loyal to helping Trump obstruct investigations.

It can easily be the job of the DOJ to "go after" Trump if something comes up that is their job to go after. It will be the DOJ that goes after him if Mueller's investigation shows reason, and if that happens the DOJ definitely doesn't answer to Trump.
First error, it's not Trump's justice department, ... (show quote)


So let me try to understand your response. The DOJ is chosen by the president as a political appointment but can choose to ignore the president and go his own way. That implies that all of 500 or so of his political appointments can go rogue and ignore the policies or objectives of the president. That’s clear as mud! By the very definition of “presidential political appointment”, political appointees are expected to support the policies and goals of the president’s administration.

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May 16, 2018 21:28:41   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
woodguru wrote:
First error, it's not Trump's justice department, his thinking it is and that he is in charge of it is his first and biggest mistake...

The DOJ does not answer to him, and he is supposed to keep a total separation from any appearances of control. When he personally interviewed prosecutors that was an absolute unheard of thing, especially in courts that might be involved with cases against him, his business interests, or family. He just coincidentally talked to the ones that would be in districts that would be prone to his interests.

Trump thinks the people he appoints are supposed to have a loyalty to him, he doesn't get that they work for the united states and if their job description crosses into something that comes up involving Trump their loyalty is not to Trump.

The DOJ is an equal branch, as is congress, although this one seems to be pretty loyal to helping Trump obstruct investigations.

It can easily be the job of the DOJ to "go after" Trump if something comes up that is their job to go after. It will be the DOJ that goes after him if Mueller's investigation shows reason, and if that happens the DOJ definitely doesn't answer to Trump.
First error, it's not Trump's justice department, ... (show quote)


A reasonable reply to the situation.
Fitting & timely.

Have a good day.

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May 16, 2018 22:02:23   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
tbutkovich wrote:
So let me try to understand your response. The DOJ is chosen by the president as a political appointment but can choose to ignore the president and go his own way. That implies that all of 500 or so of his political appointments can go rogue and ignore the policies or objectives of the president. That’s clear as mud! By the very definition of “presidential political appointment”, political appointees are expected to support the policies and goals of the president’s administration.


That is not the Moral or Ethical way to address that issue.

This trial is not to be decided on a Political basis.

WE NEED & DESERVE TO HAVE PEOPLE OF THE HIGHEST MORAL & ETHICAL VALUES REPRESENT US.
That is what has been lacking with our government for too long.

Trump is a business person first & for most.
The tactics he used in the business World don't work in the Political arena.
He don't have the basic temperament to be our representative.

Just relax & we all will be better off with out Trump in office.
The time being taken to release the out come was out of resect for the office.
Supporters of Trump deserve to have as thoroughly presented out come as can be had.

Trump has been continually adding fuel to the fire.
Time is being taken in giving the issues time for the public trial to be settled first.
That is seen as a means to show respect to the office of President.
To show to much respect for the office on the issue at this time would be wrong.

The actual number of eligible voters voting for Trump was not much over 30%.
It was certainly less than 51%.

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May 16, 2018 22:04:28   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
tbutkovich wrote:
So let me try to understand your response. The DOJ is chosen by the president as a political appointment but can choose to ignore the president and go his own way. That implies that all of 500 or so of his political appointments can go rogue and ignore the policies or objectives of the president. That’s clear as mud! By the very definition of “presidential political appointment”, political appointees are expected to support the policies and goals of the president’s administration.


woodguru would like for us to think it's normal for the Bureaucracy to be calling shots.

That's what isn't going to happen.

We will emasculate these unelected fks one way or the other.

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May 16, 2018 22:10:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
That is not the Moral or Ethical way to address that issue.

This trial is not to be decided on a Political basis.

WE NEED & DESERVE TO HAVE PEOPLE OF THE HIGHEST MORAL & ETHICAL VALUES REPRESENT US.
That is what has been lacking with our government for too long.

Trump is a business person first & for most.
The tactics he used in the business World don't work in the Political arena.
He don't have the basic temperament to be our representative.

Just relax & we all will be better off with out Trump in office.
The time being taken to release the out come was out of resect for the office.
Supporters of Trump deserve to have as thoroughly presented out come as can be had.

Trump has been continually adding fuel to the fire.
Time is being taken in giving the issues time for the public trial to be settled first.
That is seen as a means to show respect to the office of President.
To show to much respect for the office on the issue at this time would be wrong.

The actual number of eligible voters voting for Trump was not much over 30%.
It was certainly less than 51%.
That is not the Moral or Ethical way to address t... (show quote)


Trump's business method can and will work. It already has...unlike the glacially slow, incumbent assholes who have been best at coming up with creative ways to do NOTHING.

Thank God so many are retiring (getting out of Dodge) or coming up for reelection!

Snipe at Trump's victory (OUR victory) if you want. We've heard all the condescending BS already and it matters not.

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May 16, 2018 22:21:44   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
That is not the Moral or Ethical way to address that issue.

This trial is not to be decided on a Political basis.

WE NEED & DESERVE TO HAVE PEOPLE OF THE HIGHEST MORAL & ETHICAL VALUES REPRESENT US.
That is what has been lacking with our government for too long.

Trump is a business person first & for most.
The tactics he used in the business World don't work in the Political arena.
He don't have the basic temperament to be our representative.

Just relax & we all will be better off with out Trump in office.
The time being taken to release the out come was out of resect for the office.
Supporters of Trump deserve to have as thoroughly presented out come as can be had.

Trump has been continually adding fuel to the fire.
Time is being taken in giving the issues time for the public trial to be settled first.
That is seen as a means to show respect to the office of President.
To show to much respect for the office on the issue at this time would be wrong.

The actual number of eligible voters voting for Trump was not much over 30%.
It was certainly less than 51%.
That is not the Moral or Ethical way to address t... (show quote)

You are right th Republican party did not have enough votes to over come the Demon-Rats votes and their illegal aliens as voters it was the cross over true American patriot Democrat vote who said "enough is enough" and voted for and elected President Trump.

God bless all true Americans and President Trump

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May 16, 2018 23:30:32   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
old marine wrote:
You are right th Republican party did not have enough votes to over come the Demon-Rats votes and their illegal aliens as voters it was the cross over true American patriot Democrat vote who said "enough is enough" and voted for and elected President Trump.

God bless all true Americans and President Trump


I think you should seek out what the actual voting numbers where & for who.

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May 17, 2018 06:41:12   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I think you should seek out what the actual voting numbers where & for who.

Frankly I could care less. Who voted for who is confidential and protected by law.

The bottom line is which candidate won and is the official duly elected President Trump.

God bless America and President Trump

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May 17, 2018 08:21:32   #
Big Kahuna
 
woodguru wrote:
First error, it's not Trump's justice department, his thinking it is and that he is in charge of it is his first and biggest mistake...

The DOJ does not answer to him, and he is supposed to keep a total separation from any appearances of control. When he personally interviewed prosecutors that was an absolute unheard of thing, especially in courts that might be involved with cases against him, his business interests, or family. He just coincidentally talked to the ones that would be in districts that would be prone to his interests.

Trump thinks the people he appoints are supposed to have a loyalty to him, he doesn't get that they work for the united states and if their job description crosses into something that comes up involving Trump their loyalty is not to Trump.

The DOJ is an equal branch, as is congress, although this one seems to be pretty loyal to helping Trump obstruct investigations.

It can easily be the job of the DOJ to "go after" Trump if something comes up that is their job to go after. It will be the DOJ that goes after him if Mueller's investigation shows reason, and if that happens the DOJ definitely doesn't answer to Trump.
First error, it's not Trump's justice department, ... (show quote)


The DOJ is not an equal branch as Congress. The DOJ is under Trump's executive branch and reports to him. Trump could fire all of these bs so called justice dept. employees but because of excessive political pressure from corrupt demonrats and rino's has held back from these firings and has let this bogus investigation continue. Trump knows he has not colluded but knows the dems have collusion all over their roadmap to try and impeach him. Obamma, hitlary, comey, mueller and others are being exposed as to being the realtime Russian colluders and will go down!!

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May 17, 2018 08:45:06   #
moldyoldy
 
drlarrygino wrote:
The DOJ is not an equal branch as Congress. The DOJ is under Trump's executive branch and reports to him. Trump could fire all of these bs so called justice dept. employees but because of excessive political pressure from corrupt demonrats and rino's has held back from these firings and has let this bogus investigation continue. Trump knows he has not colluded but knows the dems have collusion all over their roadmap to try and impeach him. Obamma, hitlary, comey, mueller and others are being exposed as to being the realtime Russian colluders and will go down!!
The DOJ is not an equal branch as Congress. The DO... (show quote)


trump can appoint a head of the DOJ, but the members must follow the law.

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