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Aug 28, 2014 16:46:06   #
DennisDee wrote:
I think this could be a very interesting topic to discuss. Maybe someone can change my mind.


For many years I have heard the term Uncle Tom used to portray Blacks who supported conservative idea's and politicians. From Clarence Thomas to Colin Powell and Ben Carson. This has always puzzled me for the following reasons.

I remembered reading Uncle Toms Cabin when I was a Pre teen and did not attach any negative meaning to the name. Decades his name became a derogatory term. I decided to pick up the book again and read it as an adult.

The story is based on the life of Joshua Henson which inspired Harriet Beecher Stowe to write the book. There are some differences of course . Henson escaped to Canada and became an abolitionist. Uncle Tom dies at the hands of his owner Simon Legree who whips him to death.


Uncle Tom was a slave who was sold numerous times. 3 or 4 I believe. Throughout the book he protects other slaves including Emmeline for which he gave his life.


I have trouble in seeing why this man is being trashed . He was dealt a poor hand from birth and made the best of his life. He ate better and had clean clothes. He was educated and lived more comfortably. I am looking for some intelligent conversation on the issue not far left wing hate and racist comments.
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I don't intend to get into a conversation about it, but I think Wikipedia does a pretty good job of explaining the origins of the term "Uncle Tom" in a negative light.

From Wikipedia:

The term "Uncle Tom" is used as a derogatory epithet for an excessively subservient person, particularly when that person perceives their own lower-class status based on race. It is similarly used to negatively describe a person who betrays their own group by participating in its oppression, whether or not they do so willingly. The term has also, with more intended neutrality, been applied in psychology in the form "Uncle Tom syndrome", a term for the use of subservience, appeasement and passivity to cope with intimidation and threats.

The popular negative connotations of "Uncle Tom" have largely been attributed to the numerous derivative works inspired by Uncle Tom's Cabin in the decade after its release, rather than the original novel itself, whose title character is a more positive figure. These works lampooned and distorted the portrayal of Uncle Tom with politically loaded overtones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Tom
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Aug 28, 2014 16:00:57   #
oldroy wrote:
Obama is having trouble with attacking ISIL now but if he could understand this maybe he could just go ahead and get started. I have to wonder if the Congress, which will still be on vacation too much longer, can help him understand.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/27/profs-chilling-warning-islamic-state-will-carry-out-mass-slaughter-in-the-u-s-if-not-stopped-soon/


What more do you want Obama to do right now, oldroy? He has had the Navy and Air Force carry out hundreds of air attacks against ISIL and has provided exactly the support to the Kurds and Iraqi army the professor in this clip is talking about. ISIL advances in Iraq have been stopped and even reversed in some places, and Iraqi and Kurdish forces are now fighting them effectively.

Do you want Obama to put more American boots on the ground there? How many would make you happy?

Is that the only kind of military action you understand? How many more billions, or even trillions, do you want to add to our national debt?

Do you want YOUR grandson or great grandson to go there and fight? Does it not make more sense to have the Iraqis and Kurds fight ISIL than us?

Or are you bitching and spreading anti-Obama hate just because you don't like him?
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Aug 28, 2014 15:41:02   #
Elwood wrote:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/painful-watch-sorta-obamas-speech-american-legion-major-fail-even-crickets-asleep/

Our Veterans are not fooled as evidenced by the underwhelming or no applause. :shock: :mrgreen:


A 2-minute compilation of snippets from a 35-minute speech is hardly evidence of how well Obama's speech was received. The whole tone of his speech was one of seriousness about the troubles of veterans, and the relatively small, mostly elderly audience applauded respectfully in many other places during the speech. Those moments, not surprisingly, were left out of this little compilation of snippets. That's not to say that he got the same enthusiastic applause as he would have gotten at a political rally, but considering that this group is one that regularly drinks the right-wing, anti-Obama koolaid, he did ok, even with them. If you watch the speech at the link below, compare the applause that heroic veterans he pointed out received to the applause he received in other parts of the speech. Not much difference. He was received more warmly by this relatively hostile audience than this 2-minute video clip would suggest.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2014/08/26/president-obama-addresses-american-legion
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Aug 28, 2014 14:38:28   #
just_sayin' wrote:
Parading Margaret Sangor, Mao Tse Tung, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, just to name a few, as revolutionary, progressive heroes instead of the monsters, murderers and villains they were.

Parading the founding fathers of the U.S.A. as bigots, racists and murderers instead of the revolutionary, progressive heroes they were.

You only asked for one. I was feeling generous. There are so many more...


You would need to provide specific examples of the founding fathers being portrayed in those negative ways for your post to mean anything. I don't believe that is happening. If "There are so many more," I'm sure you would have no trouble providing some examples.
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Aug 28, 2014 14:32:14   #
lpnmajor wrote:
Perhaps golf should be outlawed. It seems to cause an awful lot of heartache. Maybe replaced by table tennis? That way, when a President wants to "get away", he can do it in the basement - and no one would ever know.


This has nothing to do with Obama, but golf has long been an activity that politicians and senior military officers have used to conduct casual meetings with other leaders. I imagine that CEOs and other business leaders do the same. When sharing a cart or walking together, they can discuss business, then have time to digest issues on their own when they go their separate ways to play their next shot. Then they rejoin their partner and continue their discussion.

Back when I was an admin aid to a 4-star admiral in the Pacific theater during the Reagan years, he was more or less ordered to take up golf because senior leaders from Asian countries liked to discuss business while golfing. There was always a fear (on both sides) that offices were bugged, and the open air of a golf course lessened the chances of being overheard or recorded. He had previously hated the game, but he took it up and ended up liking it. I imagine the same sort of thing goes on today.

I don't know if Obama golfs for the pure enjoyment of it, to relieve the stress of the office, or to conduct private meetings. Find out who he golfs with mostly, and you would have a better picture. Remember, Obama did not golf until he became president.
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Aug 28, 2014 12:59:24   #
oldroy wrote:
Do you really think that our military avoids Obama orders like you say? Is that the reason that certain of them from Captains up to Generals have been thrown out recently? If you think so then you are the one who is having trouble


I never said that the military avoids Obama's orders. And your claim that captains and generals "have been thrown out recently" is complete hogwash. Never happened. I work with recently retired, senior military officers every day, and NOT ONE of them was "thrown out". There is simply the normal drawdown that follows every war. Simple as that. If there were so many captains and generals being thrown out (rather than just retiring normally), don't you think that just one of them would have gone public with it? The whole notion is absurd and illustrates a lack of understanding of the military.

You are drinking way too much koolaid, old friend.
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Aug 27, 2014 11:45:42   #
oldroy wrote:
The blankety blank Pentagon said it happened just as he wrote. Is there some way you can prove that they didn't? Take a shot at so doing.

Speaking of naps, I don't take them because I don't like to wear my CPAPP mask to take a nap so only do it at night. I think you manage more naps than I do.


What I find fascinating is that anyone in their right mind would believe that our military would undertake a rescue mission like that with 30-day-old intelligence. It might have taken 30 days from when the initial plan was proposed before the go-ahead order was given, but there is no way in hell that our specops teams would conduct a mission without current intel. You can bet every dollar you have that the intel they had was as current as it could have been. Did you notice that the report said that it's likely that the hostages had been moved within "hours" of the rescue attempt?

Haters' brains don't seem to work very well.

This is just one more example in a long list of cases in which Obama haters glom on to some isolated factoid and fabricate a story around it.
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Aug 26, 2014 07:33:18   #
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For God's sake! WE ARE LIVING IN A DICTATORSHIP. If you think for a nanosecond, you will agree our country isn't what it was 10 years ago. You may not call it a dictatorship - I DO because Obama has proven that he and Holder and the other goons he put in office to protect him carry about no good will, and they have put us in severe danger. Evil NEVER improves, it merely becomes more evil. And it is getting worse every day. Our Constitution has failed us. It doesn't work for us when men know how to use it for their own advantage. Now that the cat is out of the bag, the US Constitution doesn't work, and never will again precisely because the cat is out of the bag. If Obama wants to be a dictator for the next 10 years, he WILL BE. NO ONE will do anything about it. I don't want to change the Constitution because bad men will make it even worse than it is. Good men won't have a chance to make it right. I am in favor of tossing it until and if our nation ever regains its sanity, which I know won't be during my lifetime.
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There are medications you can take to solve your problem, Tasine. You should ask your doctor about them.
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Aug 22, 2014 17:31:03   #
Worried for our children wrote:
A black female officer speaks:



“My experience being a black cop is what I imagine it feels like to be a biracial kid. But instead of being half this or half that, I’m half black, half cop. And neither side accepts me.

“As a black woman, I know what it feels like to be followed around in anything from a low-end convenience store to a Saks Fifth Avenue, simply because of the color of my skin. I also know what it feels like to be pulled over unjustly—and I absolutely know it’s not right because I happen to know the motor vehicle laws. I know what it feels like to have a man, who is driving and I’m a passenger, be pulled over unjustly while we’re driving through a white town. So please don’t take this as me not understanding the plight of us as African Americans in this country, because I do.

“However, as an officer, I also know what it feels like to be harassed, assaulted, spit at, cursed at and have unjust complaints filed on me because the man or woman I went after was a fugitive and he or she eluded arrest. Because the group of dudes on the corner were clearly hustling and I moved in to make my arrest. Because I pulled out my weapon on the young man who did not heed my requests to slowly take his hands out of his pockets, to stop running, to stay where he is, to let me see his hands, to put his hands in the air, to put his hands on the steering wheel, etc. Because I was doing my job.

“I happen to work in a city that consistently ranks high in crime. When patrolling, I pull my weapon out every day. Every single day. Have I ever had to fire it at someone? No. And I pray every day that I make it to my 25 years never having to do so.

“It is not my goal to shoot anyone or take anyone’s life. But will I? If it means me going home that night to live the rest of my life, I absolutely will. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. In this job, there are dangers that the average citizen may never be able to begin to comprehend, but that’s the exact reason why I do what I do, so that you, as citizens, don’t have to comprehend those dangers. That is my job.

“When I first heard about Michael Brown’s death on social media, I was disheartened because yet another black youth had been shot. My heart literally aches for these young men and women whose lives are taken, unfortunately, on a daily basis. At the same time, my heart aches for the law-enforcement officer who possibly only did what he or she had to do in order to go home that night, just as I would do, and is crucified for it.

“I can’t say whether Officer Darren Wilson was justified in his actions or not. The information given to the public is still not all of the information. There are way too many facts that are unknown or, at minimum, unreleased.

“One side says that Brown was shot while his hands were up in the air. The other side gives an account of Brown being shot while still in the car, engaged in a physical altercation with the officer while trying to take the officer’s weapon. Who is telling the truth? Is either side telling the truth? I don’t know. We don’t know. I do know that if Brown was feet away from the car and the officer, on his knees with his hands in the air, then no, the shoot was not justified.

“But if Michael Brown was in the car ... engaged in a physical altercation while trying to get the officer’s weapon, then yes, the shoot was justified. If an unarmed person attempts to go after my gun, he or she will be shot. If anyone is bold enough to attempt to get my weapon from me, they are bold enough to use it on me. And I am going home at the end of my shift. I just wish that more people would try to understand that.

“It bothers me that when incidents like what happened in Ferguson occur, the automatic reaction from black people is, ‘All cops ain’t s--t.’ That couldn’t be further from the truth. When an officer generalizes all black people as thugs, criminals and hoodlums because of the actions of a few, black people are outraged, as we should be, but it doesn’t make it right on either foot. Are there bad apples in every bunch? Absolutely. However, not all of us [in law enforcement] are out to kill young black people.

“Every day my life consists of being the rope in a game of tug of war because of situations like what happened in Ferguson. A cop or group of cops do something wrong, and now every cop ain’t s--t. Just as every black man would like to be looked at as an individual and not be accused of doing wrong just because the person who looks like him did something wrong, I, as an officer, want nothing but the same. I don’t want to be accused of being an indecent person simply because of the uniform that I wear.

“I happen to be one of those ‘good cops’ who actually cares, who steps up and speaks up when things aren’t right. Have there been times when I’ve had to get physical with someone? Unfortunately, that sometimes comes with the job. But have there also been times when my presence alone has kept fellow officers from becoming physical unnecessarily? Yes. My co-workers know where I stand and know that I will not tolerate an abuse of power in my presence. Some of them love me for it and some of them hate me. At the end of the day, all I have is my integrity.”


http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/08/black_officer_sees_both_sides_in_michael_brown_shooting.html
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Aug 22, 2014 17:12:27   #
Broken Arrow wrote:
Glaucon and Rumitoid the Hemi-roid you guys can love your murderous enemies all you want.Case and point tonite on the news a jihadist terrorist by the name of Ali Muhammed Brown,has murdered 4 Americans here on American soil.Would you still be head over heels in love with this guy if it had been your brother,father,son,daughter or wife whom he murdered?I think not.So much for loving thy enemy don't you think?Or is this guy not your enemy?He is mine.Jesus loves his enemies I suppose,but not these abhorrent murderous sins they continue to commit against his creation.Once again,I am the Equalizer,the defender of human life,freedoms,liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all and I will dispatch anyone who attempts to take these God given divine rights by evil force from me,my family,friends and neighbors.
Would you two like to be my neighbors,won't you be my neighbor?So I can defend you and protect you from the evil that is about to come upon you.Do you know why Mr.Rogers always wore long sleeve sweaters and shirts on his children's shows?Mr.Rogers was a Navy Seal before becoming a minister and his arms were covered in seal tattoos and did not want to expose those tattoos to his kids.One more thing,Mr.Rogers had nine confirmed hand to hand combat
Kills as a Navy Seal killing the enemy to protect you and this country from the ones you desire to love and protect,the enemy.And there is another enemy and it's within,it's called ignorance and you two are to ignorant to see what's coming to you as I mentioned above.Case and Point:Ali Muhammed Brown jihadist murdering Muslim here,now on U.S.Soil.That could have been you he murdered or someone else you loved.You love your enemies now?If so you are the ones that are Insane,I will never give in or lay down like you two will.Best of Luck to you and no hard feelings,I would still like for u to be my neighbors so I can defend and protect you from yourselves.Amen!
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Sorry, Broken Arrow. I don't mean to burst your bubble, but you have been believing some odd rumors about Mr. Rogers. I copy-and-pasted the below from Snopes, but you can find the same stuff in just about any other site that comes up with an internet search:

Not only did Fred Rogers never serve in the military, there are no gaps in his career when he could conceivably have done so. He went straight into college after high school, he moved directly into TV work after graduating college, and his breaks from television work were devoted to attending the Pittsburgh Theological Seminary (he was ordained as a Presbyterian minister in 1963) - RetNavyCWO Note: President Kennedy established the SEALS in 1962, when Mr. Rogers was 34 years old - and the University of Pittsburgh's Graduate School of Child Development. Moreover, Fred Rogers was born in 1928 and was therefore far too old to have been a draftee during the period of America's military involvement in the Vietnam ground war (1965-72) and too established in his career at that point to have run off to enlist.

Fred Rogers never served in the military, and he bore no tattoos on his arms (or any other part of his body). He wore long-sleeved shirts and sweaters on his show as a stylistic choice, in order to maintain an air of formality with youngsters. Although he was friendly with the children in his viewing audience and talked to them on their own level, he was most definitely an authority figure on a par with parents and teachers (he was Mister Rogers to them, after all, not "Fred"), and his choice of dress was intended to establish and foster that relationship.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp#6BTwSer0sQJwH0EJ.99
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Aug 19, 2014 17:06:12   #
MrEd wrote:
I could have told you that he would not show up for the Generals funeral. He had a vacation scheduled for that time frame and he can't be bother on his vacation to go to some stupid funeral. I mean after all, it is just a General. He wasn't important enough to break from his vacation to go. I'll bet he would not have gone if that had been a 5 star General.


There are no 5-star generals. Four stars is as high as they go.
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Aug 16, 2014 11:57:26   #
MrEd wrote:
I hate to disagree with you, but it would seem that you are only interested in hearing your ideas expressed and will not pay attention to anyone else. If you don't think our country is being changed, and not for the better I might add, in many ways, then how about if you look around and pay attention.

You can start by reading our Constitution and I mean READ IT, don't just look at the words. If you pay attention to what it says, you will see many ways that this government, and Obama is the worst, is ignoring it or going around it.

Start with something simple. Lets take the second amendment just for starters. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Now take the last 4 words and see if we can come to an agreement on them. "shall not be infringed" Would you not agree that it simply means that Congress cannot pass laws forbidding our ownership of arms? Does this mean they can pass some laws against our ownership of guns, or does it mean they can't pass ANY laws? Now look up Executive Order 13662 and tell me Obama has not broken the law. Now only is he NOT ALLOWED TO PASS LAWS, he passed one against some guns. Now would you please tell me how this is not loosing our rights and our country if Obama is simply making laws by decree? Is that not what a socialist government does?? Are you REALLY sure you understand what is going on in this country now????????????????
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Have YOU read Executive Order 13662? I don't think so. I think you just read what some rightwingnut posted somewhere, figuring people wouldn't actually look it up, and tried to pull the same bullshit here. EO 13662 says nothing about restricting gun rights. It's one of the executive orders placing sanctions against Russia. WTF are you talking about?

Executive Order 13662 of March 20, 2014 Blocking Property of Additional Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emer- gencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, hereby expand the scope of the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660 of March 6, 2014, and expanded by Executive Order 13661 of March 16, 2014, finding that the actions and policies of the Government of the Russian Federation, including its purported annexation of Crimea and its use of force in Ukraine, continue to undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity; and contribute to the misappropriation of its assets, and thereby constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. Accordingly, I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person (including any foreign branch) of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State: (i) to operate in such sectors of the Russian Federation economy as may be determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, such as financial services, energy, metals and mining, engineering, and defense and related materiel; (ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or (iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order. (b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section apply except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the effective date of this order.

Sec. 2. I hereby find that the unrestricted immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens determined to meet one or more of the criteria in section 1(a) of this order would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of such persons. Such persons shall be treated as persons covered by section 1 of Proclamation 8693 of July 24, 2011 (Suspension of Entry of Aliens Subject to United Nations Security Council Travel Bans and International Emergency Economic Powers Act Sanctions).

Sec. 3. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type of articles specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to section 1 of this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, and expanded in Executive Order 13661 and this order, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 4. The prohibitions in section 1 of this order include but are not limited to: (a) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; and (b) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 5. (a) Any transaction that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, causes a violation of, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited. (b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 6. For the purposes of this order: (a) the term ‘‘person’’ means an individual or entity; (b) the term ‘‘entity’’ means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; (c) the term ‘‘United States person’’ means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States; and (d) the term the ‘‘Government of the Russian Federation’’ means the Government of the Russian Federation, any political subdivision, agency, or instrumentality thereof, including the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, and any person owned or controlled by, or acting for or on behalf of, the Government of the Russian Federation.

Sec. 7. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, and expanded in Executive Order 13661 and this order, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1 of this order.

Sec. 8. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA, as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government consistent with applicable law. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order.

Sec. 9. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
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Aug 15, 2014 13:33:01   #
lpnmajor wrote:
The problem is, those with the right ideas are not politicians and politicians rarely take advice from such experts. Trying to get elected by telling the people what they want to hear, is fine and dandy, but actually implementing reform is a more difficult task.

The first questions asked by politicians are "what's in it for me?" and "what's in it for my party?", meaning that, what's best for the country is third on the list, at best. Reforming our political programs requires reforming our political system, which would require reforming our way of thinking. Currently, politicians are not shy about using social media to influence the masses, but are reluctant to use the same to "stay in touch" with their constituents.

"we the people" seem to be content to let others represent our interests, be it unions, party committees, AARP and the 1000's of other groups. This is the 21st century and it is no longer reasonable to determine the peoples will, by purchased poll's. The vast majority have access to e-mail, text, or social media and our elected representatives have no excuse NOT to know what we want.
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Aug 15, 2014 13:19:58   #
DiamondGirl wrote:
I love America and I want to be part of the Conservative Group by being informed. I will pass information on to people in my email down line.


You might want to be careful about what information you learn here that you pass on. Lots of BS gets posted on this site. You might lose some credibility with your "people" if you accept everything at face value.
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Aug 15, 2014 13:16:24   #
Patty wrote:
I don't think you understand the difference between an "annexation" and a "referendum by democratic vote"
When the Washington puppet ambassadors at the UN (Japan and Australia) were screaming " Violation of international law" they were asked specifically what laws were broken? They sat their asses down and kept their mouth shut.
An annexation is what we did to Hawaii, Guam and Puerto Rico when the people of those sovereign countries voted overwhelmingly not to join the US and were taken anyway. Crimea was withingtheir rights to separate based on international referendum laws due to unreasonable aggression by a districts own government.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/un-and-issue-of-ukraine-general-assembly-vs-un-security-coun...

How do you justify Poroshenko ordering his junta army to send in military jets to shot down MH17 commercial jetliner and Washington covering it up?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-is-now-conclusive-two-ukrainian-government-fighter-...


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Patty, you should just go ahead and change your screen name to "Putin's Bitch." That way everybody would know where your loyalties are.
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