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Mar 11, 2016 11:24:29   #
Jurban wrote:
The only one that has fought Congress and his own party because they were folding to Obama is Cruz.



The only one that will back our police is Cruz
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Mar 11, 2016 11:23:23   #
Super Dave wrote:
I'm glad someone on this thread recognizes obvious/high school level sarcasm when they see it.



The only one that has fought Congress and his own party because they were folding to Obama is Cruz.
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Mar 11, 2016 11:22:30   #
Super Dave wrote:
I'm glad someone on this thread recognizes obvious/high school level sarcasm when they see it.



The only one that will remove the illegals is Cruz. Trump has already flip-flopped.
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Mar 11, 2016 09:19:21   #
3jack wrote:
These words are not twisted.....................


Best-selling Christian author Max Lucado believes Donald Trump speaks with a forked tongue when he calls himself a Christian one day and launches jaw-dropping personal attacks on people the next.
"It would be none of my business, I would have absolutely no right to speak up except that he repeatedly brandishes the Bible and calls himself a Christian," the San Antonio pastor said in an interview with Christianity Today magazine.
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Mar 11, 2016 09:16:39   #
Kevyn wrote:
This is an interesting article explaining Trumps populist success. The attached video is well worth watching, do you think that the explanation is correct?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/10/trump-the-great-orange-haired-unintended-consequence


Best-selling Christian author Max Lucado believes Donald Trump speaks with a forked tongue when he calls himself a Christian one day and launches jaw-dropping personal attacks on people the next.
"It would be none of my business, I would have absolutely no right to speak up except that he repeatedly brandishes the Bible and calls himself a Christian," the San Antonio pastor said in an interview with Christianity Today magazine.
"If he's going to call himself a Christian one day and call someone a bimbo the next or make fun of somebody's menstrual cycle, it's just beyond reason to me."
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Mar 7, 2016 15:30:31   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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The establishment continues to spend about $200K per day or more to seal, remove, hide, delete everything about Obama's legitimacy / eligibility !
Including SCOTUS

Do not be fooled.


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The truth will come out one of these days but people like Pelosi, Reid and others will already be dead and we cannot prosecute them but Eric Holder can be. Maybe we will get lucky and Obama will flee the country and fall right in the hands of ISIS or Al-Qaeda and we never hear from Obama again. I'll leave the rest up to your imagination but this story has a happy ending for one nation under God.
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Mar 7, 2016 14:01:39   #
Olden McGroen wrote:
Yes, that's right. Obama is trying to help Trump win the nomination.

Obama knows that ANYTHING he advocates will be opposed by the Right.

Therefore, if he claims that Trump isn't worthy of the office of the POTUS and that he will not win, then OBVIOUSLY he knows that will only rally support for Trump by the opposition.

It's manipulation 101: "I can talk about my family, but you can't talk about my family! I'll show you Mr. Obama" Thereby, playing right into Obama's hand, or in this case, Trump's hand, Hillary's hand, the Dems hand...

Trump is in the thing for one reason and one reason only...to destroy the Republican Party...(as if they need any help).

Now, why would Obama want to "help" Trump? Because he knows that Trump will be destroyed by the media in the general election. The media is biting their collective tongues and not laying a glove on Trump right now in hopes that he wins the nomination. If he does, they will unleash hell on him...and all they have to do is play video after video of him extolling the greatness of liberalism.

That's the real reason Trump backed out of the Fox debate a few weeks ago. Fox ran video montages (unprecedented in a debate) of Rubio and Cruz on immigration. Had Trump showed up, they would've ran a montage of him espousing his liberal views and stances on everything. Trump knew it was going to happen and knew it would hurt him, possibly completely derailing his chances of the nomination.

No doubt, Fox either told all of the candidates that video would be shown of them, or they certainly tipped off Trump as a favor. Fox supports the establishment GOP. Trump is being supported by the establishment GOP. Trump has bought many of the establishment in both parties, so they owe him.

TRUMPETEERS...you better wake up and sniff what I'm stepping in...Trump is a troll. He has NO intention of being POTUS and every intention of handing the election to Hillary if he gets the nomination...of which he will not.

CRUZ will win the nomination.
Yes, that's right. Obama is trying to help Trump ... (show quote)


I hope you are right. I do not trust Trump at all. He has not evolved. He will get Hillary elected IF he wins the primary.
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Mar 7, 2016 13:51:21   #
Loki wrote:
Have you ever heard of US v Wong Kim Ark? In 1898 part of the court's decision was that Natural born and citizen at birth are the same. According to 8 USC section 1401 Ted Cruz is a US citizen at birth,
ergo, natural born. Obama's attorneys used Wong Kim Ark in at least nine cases to defend his eligibility. They were successful in all of them.
John McCain was a natural born citizen via an Act of Congress, not an accident of birth.
The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 granted citizenship, finally, to Native American Indians whose ancestors here predated the founders by thousands of years. An Indian born one minute before this Act was signed into law was not a Natural born citizen. One born one minute later was. Interesting, isn't it?
The father of Chester Arthur, who became both president AND vice president, was a British subject at the time of Arthur's birth. While Arthur's mother was born in Vermont, according to the laws of the time, the wife's ciizenship usually followed the husband's. Considering she married a British Subject on British soil, I am not sure what the deal was with that. It could be that both of Arthur's parents were foreigners.
Let us not forget James Buchanan, president right before Lincoln. His father came here in 1783 as a British subject. Under the laws of the time, he would have had to have naturalized in Pennsylvania as a citizen of that state, to be considered a citizen of the US and be grandfathered in when the Constitution was ratified. There is no record anywhere of his ever having done so, and there are a lot of records of other people in his situation having done so.
Then there is Obama, whose father was Kenyan.
If being born in this country to 2 citizen parents is the only way to be natural born, why has no one spotted anything amiss in the 160 years since Buchanan became president? Not to mention four presidential candidates who were all considered natural born by Acts of Congress and concurrence by the Court.
Finally, Black's Law, which the Court has accepted as true authority in more than 600 cases, defines natural born as either being born within the jurisdiction of the country or outside of it to citizen parents. Any nonsense you hear about descent through the father is just that. There is nothing Constitutional about it. Women were not really citizens at that time. Neither were Indians. US law has since been restated to reflect that women now are full citizens who can vote, and citizenship can be passed on through either parent or both.
Have you ever heard of US v Wong Kim Ark? In 1898 ... (show quote)


As wacky as Obama's mother sounds, I wouldn't doubt if she didn't renounce her citizenship to the US and his Grandmother was just as strange. She got Obama a SSN from a man that passed away in Ohio long before Obama’s birth.
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Mar 7, 2016 12:11:25   #
Loki wrote:
I checked out your bullshit source. Lori Stacey, like you, has an opinion. Like you, she claims the Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946 prohibited dual US/Canadian Citizenship for children of a US parent born in Canada, and like you, she conveniently neglects to publish what part of the law actually says this. The reason must be that there is no such provision in there. Unlike you, AND your bimbo source, I have read the law. You have not. Until you do, stop exposing your unbelievable ignorance. Prove me wrong, numbnuts. Paste the exact chapter and verse of the Canadian Citzenship Act of 1946 that prohibits a child born of a US citizen parent in Canada from holding dual Citizenship. HEY DUMMY! Put up or shut up. Don't claim that the law says something. Copy and Paste the exact words of that law that say so.
I checked out your bullshit source. Lori Stacey, l... (show quote)


I agree with you because Trump already took Cruz to court and the courts threw it out. That means the courts say Ted Cruz is a Natural born citizen. Knowing that if they threw Cruz out, they would have to void all of Obama's presidency.
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Mar 7, 2016 11:59:53   #
Loki wrote:
Don't forget, AO, not only does Ted Cruz look like pictures of the devil, he looks like Grandpa on the Munsters. He's not only a devil, he's a damn vampire also.


You are a silly little boy. GROW UP.
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Mar 7, 2016 10:47:29   #
MrEd wrote:
obama is from Chicago idiot. Where have you been. Granted, he says he was born in Hawaii, but that doesn't mean anything either. Time for you to wake up...............



Did you not hear what his grandmother said or his wife or his book or his ID card? How many times do you have to have something thrown in your face before you believe. Have you just tuned all that out so you will be one of the many uninformed voters. Who is the Idiot here?
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Mar 7, 2016 09:14:56   #
Kevyn wrote:
Obama is out of Hawaii, and the Purple gang is from Detroit.


There is not proof Obama was born in Hawaii. His Grandmother said he was born in Kenya, his wife said he was born in Kenya, his book says he was born in Kenya and is Student ID shows he came to the US as an exchange student. If Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen, then Obama is not either. That would be something to see. Everything Obama did for the last 7 years would be void. How would the Democrats explain that one because they never had him vetted? His education transcripts have all been sealed.
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Mar 7, 2016 08:55:43   #
buffalo wrote:
Haven't you noticed that Sanders rails against corporate corruption and Trump has railed against corruption that is rampant in government (the deep state) yet neither has put the corrupt corporate/government collusion together.

That said, the one that is so deeply entrenched in deep state and is the most corrupt is bitch Hillary and the left is swooning all over her. Both arms of the corporate party are scared to death of the "lip service" that Donald has been giving it.

Trump has bought off Democrats and Republicans. He is part of the corruption in Washington

The right arm of the corporate party has been able to connect the middle class taxpayer and the rich taxpayer together and both being against government imposition and intrusion without recognizing that the rich are still using government to their advantage.
Haven't you noticed that Sanders rails against cor... (show quote)
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Mar 7, 2016 08:42:08   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
Here we Go !


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Ted Cruz, facing suits on Canadian birth, lawyers up

Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, to an American mother and Cuban father

More than a half-dozen lawsuits challenge his being a ‘natural-born citizen’

A network of lawyers from the Federalist Society is coordinating his defense

BY MARIA RECIO

WASHINGTON
Ted Cruz, tagged as “Canadian” by a needling Donald Trump since the GOP race tightened in January, rejects any idea of being ineligible to be U.S. president.

While Trump hasn’t followed up on his threat to sue Calgary-born Cruz over what he says is the Texas senator not meeting the constitutional requirement of being a “natural-born citizen,” plenty of other people have. Trump has warned that Democrats will disrupt the electoral process by suing if Cruz is the nominee.

And that’s caused Cruz a bit of trouble. He has had to lawyer up to fight the more than half-dozen lawsuits around the country, some in federal court, some in state court. A Cook County, Ill., judge tossed one of the suits Tuesday, not over the citizenship issue but over a technicality of how the papers were served.

Seven Republican presidential candidate hopefuls gathered in Charleston, South Carolina for the first GOP debate of 2016. In between all candidates attacking President Obama, however, the evening often turned into a one-on-one battle between Donald Trump and Senator Ted Cruz.

On Thursday, a judge of the New York state Supreme Court in Albany will hear a case brought by two New York voters against the New York State Board of Elections for listing someone on the ballot who they allege is not eligible to be president.

“My guys are of the view that before you go to the voting booth you don’t want to waste your vote on someone who isn’t going to be eligible,” said Roger Bernstein, the Manhattan attorney for plaintiffs Barry Korman and William Gallo, who are retired.

The judge will consider issues not directly related to Cruz’s status, but whether the court has jurisdiction and whether papers were filed on time. Cruz’s position is that his mother was a U.S. citizen when he was born, conferring him natural-born citizenship. His father was a Cuban émigré.

The individual cases across the country appear unconnected. Plaintiffs range from a conservative Illinois supporter of Republican Ben Carson to a Texas lawyer who supports Bernie Sanders.

But the cases are still a headache for the Cruz campaign, which has hired attorneys to move to dismiss them. And there is always the chance a case will go forward, complicating the electoral picture.

HE HAS LAWYERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY DOING THIS.
Roger Bernstein, a New York attorney for two plaintiffs who want Ted Cruz off the ballot, on Cruz’s legal troubles

“He has lawyers all over the country doing this,” said Bernstein.

Grant Lally, a Mineola, N.Y, attorney, is representing Cruz in the New York case and is confident that it will be defeated, as other Cruz citizenship cases have been.

“I don’t think these are going anywhere,” said Lally in an interview. “New York law is crystal-clear,” he said, that objectors have three days to file after a candidate files to run. “These birthers filed 19 days too late.”

Cruz campaign spokeswoman Alice Stewart asked McClatchy to put questions in writing but did not respond to an email asking about the campaign’s defense effort.

According to several sources involved in the lawsuits who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, Cruz’s legal response is being led by James Ho, a Dallas attorney at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP who, like Cruz, is a former Texas solicitor general. Ho did not respond to requests for comment.

A source involved in a case but not authorized to talk to the media about Cruz’s defense efforts said there was “a network” of attorneys from The Federalist Society, a conservative group of lawyers founded by the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who are volunteering to defend Cruz.

In Texas, 85-year-old attorney Newton Schwartz, a Sanders supporter, in January filed one of the first cases challenging the Texas senator’s eligibility. “I think Cruz is disqualified,” Schwartz told McClatchy.

In response, Cruz attorneys, led by Houston lawyer Layne Kruse, said in a Feb. 22 filing that the suit was bringing the federal court into “a political dispute” where it lacked jurisdiction. The place to resolve it is in the Electoral College, said Kruse. Besides, Schwartz doesn’t have standing to sue, said the motion, and “Sen. Cruz is a ‘natural born citizen’ eligible to serve as president of the United States.”

The issue has, however, set off a spirited debate.

When Cruz was asked at a CNN town hall Feb. 18 about his eligibility, he gave a studied, academic response – one that combined two very distinct phrases.

“The law under the Constitution and federal law has been clear since the very first days of the Republic,” said Cruz, who is a Harvard Law School graduate. “The child of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a natural-born citizen. What the Constitution requires is for anyone to be president they have to be a natural-born citizen.

“It was the act of being born that made me a U.S. citizen.”

I KNOW EXACTLY WHEN TED’S GOING TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE. MARCH 12. THAT’S CANADIAN WEEK AT MYRTLE BEACH, WHEN ALL OF OUR CANADIAN FRIENDS GET 10 PERCENT OFF.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C

But opponents point out that the Constitution distinguishes between being a “naturalized” citizen and being a “natural-born” citizen – a stipulation to be president. To some scholars the intent of the Founding Fathers is clear: They wanted to ensure that a foreign royal did not try to seize the new nation. And in that interpretation, “natural-born” refers to being “of the land,” or born in the United States itself.

Harvard Law School constitutional expert Laurence Tribe, who was Cruz’s professor, is the most visible scholar questioning the Texan’s eligibility.

“Cruz claims that the narrow, historical meaning of the Constitution is literal, except when it comes to the ‘natural born citizen’ clause,” said Tribe at a Harvard Federalist Society meeting last month. And, since the Constitution had its basis in English common law, that would mean a citizen born on American soil.

Cruz brought up the case of Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the 2008 GOP presidential nominee, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone. But that was a U.S. territory at the time and McCain himself said he did not know whether Cruz was eligible to be president.

The legal case, Tribe said, is “not settled” and has never gone to the Supreme Court. “The question is anything but open-and-shut,” said Tribe at the Federalist Society meeting. Via email to McClatchy he said Trump’s standing to sue “would be based in part on his status as one of the competitors injured by the Cruz candidacy.”

Delaware Law School professor Mary Brigid McManamon generated a media storm with an opinion piece in The Washington Post, “Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president.” Professor Eric Posner at University of Chicago Law School wrote in Slate that Cruz was not eligible.

But there are potent arguments that Congress, by statute, made the children of U.S. citizens born abroad citizens. And many scholars discount any court wanting to disqualify a major candidate on that basis.

“Trump has shown himself to be very shrewd in sensing each opponent’s key weaknesses and then exploiting them relentlessly,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, in an interview.

“What better way to keep Cruz on the defensive than to keep bringing up his eligibility to serve as president?”

“I respect Larry Tribe but a sizable majority of academics who have looked at this ‘natural-born’ controversy believe Cruz is eligible to serve,” Sabato said. “I would be shocked if the judicial process yielded any other result. But this is now a political issue far more than a constitutional one.”
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If they push the Ted Cruz is not eligible because where he was born, then they would have to void Obama's presidency since he was actually born in Kenya. His grandmother said he was born in Kenya, his wife said he was born in Kenya, his book said he was born in Kenya and his student ID card shows he was an exchange student here in the United States. :roll:
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Feb 29, 2016 12:07:22   #
PawneeCounty wrote:
There isn't any of them that can relate to pay check to pay check. If the name calling that Rubio is doing isn't childish then what is? I was really in favor of Carson but he hasn't a chance. Cruz just seems dishonest to me, not due to his actions he just gives off that vibe. Kasich is favorable but like Carson hasn't a chance any more. The main thing I like about Trump is he is beholding to no special interest group. That in it's self is a major plus.


Rubio was just acting like Trump and I don't think Cruz is dishonest as Trump and Rubio make him out to be. Cruz caught both Rubio and Trump in lies so that is why they are calling Cruz the liar in hopes that it will stick. Obviously it has with some people, others could see right through that.
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