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Apr 6, 2014 10:15:54   #
CDM wrote:
Bingo Floyd! And the dividing is accomplished by those in minority positions but who make the most noise. The vast majority of this nation's population is not forming-at-the-mouth left or right. Neither are homosexuals. I am a very heterosexual male and have many gay friends and acquaintances. Most just want to live their lives quietly and peacefully. They feel put upon by their radical, unchosen representatives.

With Obama or his ilk at left-center-stage and the zealot, religious (note I said 'zealot' - not all) right at right-center-stange, a huge wall has been erected and we the people are, too easily herded to one side or the other and spend our time throwing rocks at each other over trivial crap.

In the meantime, while we are busy stoning each other more of our freedoms suffer summary execution at the hands of people who want nothing more than to control everything and everybody.
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That said I feel it is important that we seek ways to understand each other better.
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Apr 6, 2014 10:11:56   #
mkewlkez wrote:
I used to believe in America; not so much nowadays. I feel more like a frightened prisoner than an American. I consider the government to be my own worst enemy and no end in sight. :hunf:


There is much that is wrong with America.

There is much that is good.

But it is filled with people that have good in them.

The sad part is that only a few cause harm to most of us.

It takes so much to over come the setbacks to us from the greed of those others .
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Apr 6, 2014 10:00:36   #
stan3186 wrote:
Term limits are the only thing that is going to at least to some extent control the corruption. It would be nice if people were not greedy and corruptible but the fact is, most people are greedy to some degree. If you have someone offering you basically unlimited wealth just to change your vote, the temptation is greater than most people would be able to resist. Fact is the Federal government needs to be pared down and most of the decisions should be made at the State level. That way if you don't like something a particular State is doing, you can move to another one.
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Rules about campaign spending have just been open up to be almost unlimited.

It is now going to be buying votes like never before. There will be so much money buying votes at every level.

The general public's issues will be ignored like never before.

Yes there are those that wish for a smaller government. One that is just involved in rubber stamping what the few want.

I fail to see how almost 50% of the country feels that the 1% really has the best interest in mind for most of that 50%.

I know that the monied few have no interest in my well being & I feel that I have more than many of that 50%.
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Apr 6, 2014 09:43:48   #
stan3186 wrote:
Term limits are the only thing that is going to at least to some extent control the corruption. It would be nice if people were not greedy and corruptible but the fact is, most people are greedy to some degree. If you have someone offering you basically unlimited wealth just to change your vote, the temptation is greater than most people would be able to resist. Fact is the Federal government needs to be pared down and most of the decisions should be made at the State level. That way if you don't like something a particular State is doing, you can move to another one.
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States rights played a big part in the creation of this country.
When communication was slow & things needing doing could not wait for answers on a national level.

We are too interconnected now to have each state do so many different things.
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Apr 6, 2014 09:26:43   #
Tasine wrote:
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Now we are getting somewhere in this discussion. Don't most Americans believe in individual sovereignty? I know I do. Our rights are those promises that are endowed to all human beings, and one of those rights is enumerated:

Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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I know some of you will disagree with me, but I see individual sovereignty within this Amendment. Innocent life is to be protected FROM government. Yet OUR government has sanctioned the taking of the most innocent life on the planet. Is this not gross and inappropriate? Listen, I am no prude and I am not what most progressives would call a Bible thumper, but I see deep wrong in maliciously and cruelly killing a creature that has no way in the world to protect itself. It is especially egregious when it is done solely for the convenience of the mother. Her failings should not be repairable in the murder of her baby.
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"individual sovereignty?"

You are great about bring this up.

But just who do you extend this to.?

I get from your post that there are some that you would deny this to.
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Apr 6, 2014 08:58:18   #
stan3186 wrote:
I understand them, they want to trash the Constitution and live a life of Riley and never have to do anything, just lay about and collect money from the fools that actually work for a living.


And what do the people that have the most money really do to justify making the money they have?

I would like to venture that the center has to grow & each extreme needs to shrink.
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Apr 6, 2014 08:51:45   #
The LGBT issue is just another in the many ways that we are being divided by.

When will enough of the population come to realize that so many issue out there today are about dividing us.

The answer is that a divided population is much easier to control.

If we the masses divide our self over these types of issues we become distracted from what those in power do to make things better for them self.
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Apr 6, 2014 08:34:56   #
Patty wrote:
Our history does not support your thinking. From the Pago Pago Islands where we built a naval station in 1890 and killed every man, woman and child under the age of 10 to the Annexation of Hawaii where Queen Liliuokalani made Sanford Dole President. You know the Dole Company?
To stealing Puerto Rico Guam and the Philippines.
Do you realize that our use of chemical weapons goes all the way back to the Civil War? By 1917 we had created 124,000 metric tons of 39 different toxic substances to kill anything that got in our way.
Now the banks run this country and with them killing their own how do you think that is going to work out for the common man.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-05/abn-amro-ex-ceo-found-dead
"Ever since World War II, US bankers hadn’t worried too much about their supremacy being challenged by other international banks, which were still playing catch-up in terms of deposits, loans, and global customers. But by now the international banks had moved beyond postwar reconstructive pain and gained significant ground by trading with Cold War enemies of the United States. They were, in short, cutting into the global market that the US bankers had dominated by extending themselves into areas in which the US bankers were absent for US policy reasons. There was no such thing as “enough” of a market share in this game. As a result, US bankers had to take a longer, harder look at the “shackles” hampering their growth. To remain globally competitive, among other things, bankers sought to shatter post-Depression legislative barriers like Glass-Steagall. They wielded fear coated in shades of nationalism as a weapon: if US bankers became less competitive, then by extension the United States would become less powerful. The competition argument would remain dominant on Wall Street and in Washington for nearly three decades, until the separation of speculative and commercial banking that had been invoked by the Glass-Steagall Act would be no more."
This is not the country you seem to think it is.
Our history does not support your thinking. From t... (show quote)


I will not deny these things happening.

But you are way off base if you will stand by & support Russia or China to be the better choice to run the world.
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Apr 6, 2014 08:08:17   #
Patty wrote:
Your thinking is typical perversion of history. Maybe start with "The Untold History of America" and follow up with "A Peoples History of the United States." The truth will shock you.


And yet you find what is going on in Russia to be better.

Stand by your views on Russia as I will be standing on my views of the USA. History has shown that what the USA stands for while being far from where it could be is still a much better place to be from than Russia.

Have you not noticed how many have left Russia to come & live in the USA. Maybe your moving to Russia will prove me wrong.
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Apr 6, 2014 07:47:39   #
OldSchool wrote:
A party that has lots of booze and dancing girls.


I gave up booze & dancing girls over 50yrs ago.

At my age I am in no shape to start over.

At you age if I might I would think I would be best for you to at least do it less often..
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Apr 5, 2014 13:25:08   #
bobgssc wrote:
Interesting, but can you explain why you don't agree with term limits? I actually like to hear opposing view points, whether I end up agreeing with them or not!


I would like to think that the government would be run by people that thought what they did was for the betterment of the whole as a posed to special interests.

If we were to be blessed with such people it would be in our best interest to keep them in office.

The way things get done to day along party lines. Not much is change just changing one party member for another.
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Apr 5, 2014 13:16:12   #
50055005 wrote:
I never said You couldn't sue or shut down a business that did you harm..... Its really none of the government business what I chose to use or not use.....buyer beware....


But there are some of us that would like to know if some of the stuff we put in our bodies will do us harm.

Just how dose the two parts of your statement really make sense?

You wish not to control what people can make or do but you still hold the right to sue or close down businesses that do things that harm people. Just how does this all work?
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Apr 5, 2014 13:02:29   #
Well you stated that you felt that the use of guns was a way to settle differences. A gun is a weapon & so are nukes. I just wanted to know how far you would go to protect you interests.
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Apr 5, 2014 12:59:21   #
50055005 wrote:
What the hell are you talking about?
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Apr 5, 2014 12:56:12   #
robert66 wrote:
All included of course.


Well then there is a least two of us.

But of course that means that we have to include others.
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