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Sep 5, 2018 09:02:04   #
emarine wrote:
Interesting info...check this one out, seems there may be more than 3 Stooges... http://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296


Oh, without question. The two greatest fallacies in peoples misunderstanding of how things work in U.S. politics; the president cannot set the economic pace and, the president can control national debt. I have a skinny butt from laughing it off at every presidential candidate who, over the years has said - 'and I will reduce the national debt' ... They are not the morons of course; we are, for swallowing that tripe.

Of course the president can and always does influence the economy, big time. In the blink of an eye and stroke of a pen. It's called policy and it's one of the greatest unstated powers of the executive branch. And controlling debt? The executive office has no power or authority to 'control' debt. So what are they saying? "I will talk to all those good folks on the hill who are paid $175,000 a year and have guaranteed lifetime retirement while squandering your money hand over fist on special interests faster than we collect it and becoming wealthy while they're at it but who you keeping voting for; you know, the ones who stay in office 20,30, 40 years and keep screwing you? " ... Is that what they're saying?

So while we're down here swallowing the bait, fighting each other in the carefully designed Left/Right trenches, our duly elected officials, martini's in hand, are looking at us as they look at grunion flopping on the beach ... There will be more grunion next year ... and the year after that, and so on.
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Sep 4, 2018 12:48:13   #
emarine wrote:
The distinction between a large & small business is 500 employees … recheck your numbers... however small business has always paid in the majority from the tax base because of this 500 employee break point...



The numbers I cite are not related to Title 13 definitions. They are taken from BLS, SBA, Chamber of Commerce and Census Bureau raw data. Perhaps a less confusing distinction would be 'little businesses', in an effort to humanize, something the government and politicians don't do.

Today there are about 7 million total registered businesses that employ people in the U.S., give or take. To lend perspective to this, fewer than 20,000 of this total are 'big businesses' by definition. The breakdown is; fewer than 500 employees, 99.7% of those businesses. Companies with fewer than 100 employees, 98.2% of those businesses. Companies with fewer than 20 employees, 89.0% of those businesses.

I believe my observation is the U.S. economy rides on the backs of millions of tiny microcosms of industry and productivity that suffer and indeed die when thoughtless policy to punish the wealthy or control their businesses overflows onto this delicate mechanism. Three presidents that come to mind as being oblivious to the collateral damage of their thoughtless policies, ideological fits and blatant ignorance of how stuff works are Clinton, Bush, and Obama; taken together, the Three Stooges of U.S. leadership.
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Sep 3, 2018 13:38:49   #
4430 wrote:
Nothing wrong with getting rid of costly and burdensome rules and regs to get jobs and people back to work and it worked if those that hate Trump so bad would open their eyes to the fact !

One only has to look at what what the economy is doing now a days and look at the unemployment rate drop for all Americans as well as the Black and Hispanic groups more folks off welfare and into jobs !


Lest we forget;

“If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” Barack Hussein Obama – President of the United States.

Obama made this arrogantly communistic statement with total disregard for the FACT that 90% of all U.S. Companies have less than 20 employees and are responsible for over 97% of net new jobs AND collect and forward the majority of tax for/to the federal government; the taxes that built the roads and bridges that move the product; the taxes that came into existence BECAUSE of these small businesses … and the millions of hours and personal risk that went into building them ...

The Obama administration promulgated over 20,000 new regulations that have created compliance costs in the hundreds of billions of dollars; that HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS. He demonstrated total disregard for the Constitutional limits of his office, public opinion and economic impact particularly on the SMALL BUSINESS community making Gina McCarthy, an environmental radical, and her EPA his vehicle to forward his Leftist agenda.

The compliance costs associated with EPA regulations alone under Gina McCarthy have grown by more than $50 billion in annual costs. These higher costs which include the energy sector and yes, Toms Lumber Sector, ripple throughout the economy, pulling down GDP, killing thousands of jobs, and increasing the cost of consumer goods.

And we wonder why Obama's anemic 'recovery' was still anemic after 72 months?
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Sep 3, 2018 12:44:09   #
4430 wrote:
You and Bernie are spot on the left wants complete control and one of the major problems there are many that have no problem with that as it makes their life so much easier for someone else to do their thinking for them and swallow all their talking points !



"it makes their life so much easier". 44, this is probably more profound than you realize in this context. This is a foundational element of Leftism; individual thought is criminal; all thought must be identical; the collective will provide; don't worry, be happy ... Therefore it follows ... it is EASY TO BE LEFTIST ... someone else will do the thinking and the PRODUCING for you. Support the collective and you will get your fair share of the distribution. For those Americans who still subscribe to the ostrich philosophy that 'it can never happen here,' I suggest they take a look at the now largest generation after 40 years of indoctrination in our usurped public school system; cowed followers ... Eloy.

To be fair, not all Democrats are Leftists. That notwithstanding, all Leftists are Democrats hence Americas number one enemy is the Democrat Party. As the man said, "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Sep 3, 2018 10:14:02   #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
You are intent on proposing only the questions you would like. BTW, have you stopped beating your wife? Why don't you just admit that re-distribution of wealth is your ultimate goal? You just can't handle the fact that in a capitalistic economy some people are going to get rich. The poor people in this Country are, on average, better off than the wealthiest in socialistic countries. Leftists think that tearing down the wealthy is the way to build up the poor instead of encouraging entrepreneurship as a way of providing more jobs for those who need them, thereby giving them the opportunity to build up their own wealth.
You are intent on proposing only the questions you... (show quote)

Bernie; Well said. Albeit, looking at the exchange so far you may as well be arguing with a toilet.

I believe the concept of America has never had an opportunity to really soar because of the Leftist Democrat ball and chain around it's ankle for the past 150 years. I will take the liberty to expand on your observations here;

I believe the ultimate goal of Leftism in the United States - which is a unique form of Leftism that can only be employed here - is ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF ALL HUMAN ACTIVITY cradle to grave. The primary weapons in their arsenal to achieve this goal are racism, redistribution of wealth, a strangle hold on health care, environmental terrorism and the elimination of the 1st and 2nd amendments. Today we see these weapons turned on us in all out assault on our Republic 24/7/365.

While we as individuals make distinctions and decisions no true Leftist can admit any good associated with capitalism and therefore by association, with America; a concept they despise. They are conditioned to regurgitate the Party Line, nothing more or less. No thought required.
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Aug 31, 2018 14:32:35   #
Super Dave wrote:
Another easy learn is how easy it is to increase employment and growth after a recession.

If Obama had done nothing he would have had 2-4 years of 3% GDP growth.

Trump's success with economic growth is in no small part removing the intended obstacles to growth that Obama erected by exo.

As I've said before. Trump isn't doing anything everyone with a brain didn't know would work.

Trump is MAGA because Trump wants to MAGA.

Democrats, know that miserable, starving, hopeless unconfident victims are their easy votes. That's why Democrats oppose MAGA with everything they have.
Another easy learn is how easy it is to increase e... (show quote)


Yes indeed. This goes right to the fact that the economy moves in days, weeks and months for the average working American. They could give a crap about trends or GDP or any other marker. And 5 or 10-year charts (most of which prove economists don't know what they are talking about) may as well be written on toilet paper for the average Joe. And this is where Obama failed miserably to capitalize on an opportunity; The fact is he did preside over the slowest economic recovery in history. His ideological mania, his propensity for surrounding himself with losers and his disregard for the common man prevented him from doing otherwise.

Trump is the diametric opposite. He recognizes that people need to work now - at REAL jobs - not flipping burgers 20 hours a week - that people need to pay bills now; that people live day-to-day and every day is important; that a day without income is a day closer to catastrophe. All Trump has really done, as you say, is to remove the monumental barriers that Obama placed in the path of productivity and more importantly in my mind is to say to the nation the WE CAN; killing the Obama narrative that the dismal state of affairs he presided over is the 'new normal' and we should 'get used to it'. Democrats will never understand any of this but who cares just so we continue to crush them.

There is broad agreement that Trump is certainly not the most elegant solution. But then again maybe we need a little old fashion American Cowboy from time to time.
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Aug 31, 2018 10:31:58   #
emarine wrote:
Trend is easy to comprehend Dave... Trump has inherited many good things without having to work very hard for it...deregulation of big industry has always spiked the numbers short term especially on Wall St... this is the stuff you don't see on Fox news buddy...


It is a fools errand to believe that a president, any president controls the temperature of an economy if you will. It is just as foolish to believe that the president cannot or does not directly influence the pace of an economy. They do, with a mechanism called 'policy'.

The U.S. Economy primarily because of it's (still) capitalist roots has a natural tendency to want to grow – even a little. You point out that 'deregulation' will cause it to spike. You don't point out that over-regulation will also cause a spike. Spikes go both ways on charts.

Obviously, you want to make a case for Obama's positive influence on our economic successes today. In my humble opinion, the charts you show here are rather pedestrian and fall woefully short of that objective.

I suggest you take the hours it will take to pull the data from the Department of Labor Stats – actual numbers mind you – with a focus on sectors, job type and job longevity. The real story resides there.

Just an observation.
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Aug 30, 2018 14:40:14   #
Super Dave wrote:
Yes, Trump allowed himself to be taken hostage by the GOP elites and signed a budget they Shumer and Pelosi said have them everything they wanted. Shame on Trump.

The feds are pulling in more revenue than ever before, so a smart person would realize the tax cuts are working.

Idiot Democrats started screaming impeachment before Trump officially got the nomination. Elected Democrats now say thinks far worse than Trump, just like they do every Republican POTUS. I'll agree Trump does his share, but it's childish to blame the division on Trump.

Trump didn't vilify black athletes. You just did when you implied every athlete that disrespects the American flag is black. There are white assholes as well. Perhaps you should apologise for your racist inference.
Yes, Trump allowed himself to be taken hostage by ... (show quote)


"There are white assholes as well." Biggtime. How about we start with the very people who lead the movement against America, who denigrate our constitution and our flag, who vilify capitalism, who place the blame for poverty and racism squarely on the white man and who, in defense of the poor, downtrodden proletariat masses created the evil 1% ... Who are these people? Who are these Leftist leaders? Well look for yourself you poor, you downtrodden you victims;

They are majority white people and not just any white people. Many are old white people and many are old, white men. Most are super-capitalists. And what, aside from their overwhelming concern for the poor proletariat do they have in common? The vast majority of them are preposterously wealthy; wealth they derived off the backs of the people they claim to care for. Exactly what they blame the conservative capitalist of doing.

I say hair on them, let them have their power ... when the sheep are not only stupid enough to follow them to slaughter but to fall on the knife themselves ...
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Aug 30, 2018 11:09:50   #
Owl32 wrote:
donot we all hope to increase our own income and the result of this is that cost of things has to follow the wages and cost that created them. As for Republican hating unions is not about the people in the unions its their leadership that forces all members to pay dues and the leaders give all this money to Democracts this collusions right.


Yes, price follows cost, normally. This economic law seems, however, to have escaped some foreign and domestic government leaders and economists. If we want to continue purchasing at fictitiously low prices, making our income look deceptively higher, we can continue to not produce our own goods. Let's consider shutting down all our manufacturing or, paying wages equivalent to the low-cost producers. Or, we can, with reasonable trade agreements, all share the costs EQUITABLY increasing global participation and standard of living over the long term.

Do you want to depend on globalist, Leftist Progressive Democrats for 'reasonable trade agreements'? Really? I mean, they've done so well over the past 4 decades...

Giving over dues monies to a political party is not collusion. It's quite legal. If, however, after the past 50 years of union degradation the rank and file members are too stupid to see the cause ... well, they deserve what they get.
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Aug 30, 2018 10:08:12   #
Airforceone wrote:
Absolutely would like to have this comparison if you will use factual data. You can’t use accomplishments unless you can admit to a trend Ibama inherited versus a trend Trump inherited. Can you show us an accomplishment that he actually has had or a trend he inherited. Now let’s just look at a few things that Trump takes credit for



Now let’s get a good discussion here

What was the unemployment rate when Obama took Office.

What was the unemployment rate when Trump took office in Jan 2017.

How many jobs were available when Obama took office.


How many jobs were available when Trump took office.


What was the stock market at when Obama took office.


What was the stock market at when Trump took office.


What was black unemployment at when Obama took office


What was the black unemployment at when Trump took office.


What kind of an economy did Obama inherit when he took office


What kind of an economy did Trump inherit.

How many illegals were crossing the border when Obama took office


How many illegals were crossing when Trump took office.


That’s just a few questions now anybody that would like to get into this discussion just use factual data and eliminate the insults.
Absolutely would like to have this comparison if y... (show quote)


Why don't you tell us if you know?
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Aug 30, 2018 10:05:02   #
Super Dave wrote:
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/trudeau-caves-canadian-prime-minister-says-new-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday/?utm=pushnami

I would have gone about this different than Trump, but an honest person must admit Trump's method is working. And working quickly.

Great News for America.... Which means Bad News for Democrats.


One has to wonder how the historically Republican hating labor unions fit into this ... Unless I miss something this is a huge gain for them. Has Trump bridged that gap? It also appears that the corporations are hamstrung by tariffs so exporting the jobs will not serve their margin lines as it has in the past.

While we might pay a little more in the short term, in the long run, this is the dirty work that needs to be done to give America back to Americans.

Screw the Democrats!
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Aug 30, 2018 09:55:44   #
Owl32 wrote:
The outsider Trump is giving the so-call experts a lesson on how to level the playing field. I have always wonder how exporting the jobs to other nations is a benfit to the exporters, the USA. Since this was a Clinton Plan anybody with 2 nickles to rub to gather should have known this was a SNOW JOB.



Oh, you said 'Snow Job' ... For a minute there I thought I misread it ...
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Aug 30, 2018 09:34:35   #
eagleye13 wrote:
No More 'Llipstick on the Pig

The Truth Is That John "Songbird" McCain Was A Traitor
John McCain's treason just didn't exist back in Vietnam, it continued all through his life until his death.
https://freedomoutpost.com/the-truth-is-that-john-songbird-mccain-was-a-traitor/

John McCain's treason just didn't exist back in Vietnam, it continued all through his life until his death.

While my heart goes out to the family of Senator John McCain and the fact that a husband, father and such has been lost to them, I cannot but help remind people that the man the state-controlled media is presenting as a hero is the direct opposite and a traitor of the American people.
Dying at 81 from brain cancer, just over a year after being diagnosed with the disease. My very good friend and fellow church planter Tim Davis died in the spring of 2016 from brain cancer after a long battle with it. The difference between these two men could not be more striking as one was a godly man that sought the truth and strove to be pleasing to the God who saved him and the other was a man who sought his own political gain to be accepted by the world.
First, consider what those who were closest to McCain had to say about him and his corruption. Keep in mind that many of these men served with McCain in the US armed forces, so they knew him like few ever did.
Second, consider that a later generation would also call out McCain for his treason against the American people. Listen as patriotic American Blaine Cooper calls out John McCain as a traitor at an Arizona town hall meeting.
McCain was known to attack Donald Trump as well with no good reason, as well as senators who sought to uphold the US Constitution like Senator Rand Paul.
My friend, the late Ed Wood, wrote about the time that Trump mocked McCain's hero status.
...the Honorable Senator John McCain (R-AZ) picked a fight by calling him, and others like him, "crazies" for criticizing Mexican immigration. I guess when you are worth $10 BILLION of your own making, you feel free to take issue when a politician calls you crazy!
So The Donald retaliated with the statement that getting yourself captured doesn't necessarily make you a hero. "He's a war hero because he was captured? I like people who weren't captured." With that, all hell broke loose in the mainstream media, as well as the Karl Rove dominated Republican establishment -- and the gaggle of GOP presidential wannabes.
But it might behoove us at this point in time to wonder just why would getting captured make you a hero? And why would remaining in captivity make you a military expert, and thus qualified to currently fill the roles of chairman of both the Senate Committee on Armed Services and Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. And one might ask, how has his leadership in both these strategic positions of responsibility been working out for ya'?
Since Mr. Trump expressed his opinion, there is now a whole group of Vietnam veterans who have come forward with statements that highly question the Senator's preferential treatment as the son and grandson of Navy admirals, and his loyalty to his country while in captivity. Some even place him in the Jane Fonda category. Among the allegations are:....
https://freedomoutpost.com/the-truth-is-that-john-songbird-mccain-was-a-traitor/

https://youtu.be/4hr37eE0nO8
No More 'Llipstick on the Pig br br The Truth Is ... (show quote)


By this definition, most of our politicians - important word - politicians are 'traitors'. I see or saw, McCain as an opportunist who could ride his 15 minutes of fame for all it's worth and who lost sight of the commitment to public service, the oath if you will if he ever had sight of it in the first place. Not unnoticed too, McCain like most of our politicians was not a bright man; clever yes but no thinker by any means.

Hero or not, he goes to his grave a solid Democrat.
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Aug 30, 2018 09:16:14   #
Super Dave wrote:
Just wondering.


No. Ain't no future in it, Holms ...
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Aug 29, 2018 10:53:07   #
lindajoy wrote:
I was speaking of rights as in being here illegally to begin with...

Right to due process

What the law says: The Fifth Amendment states that "no person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

The issue of due process is at the heart of many immigration cases, including Reno v. Flores, the 1993 Supreme Court case that has returned to the spotlight with the surge in family separations. The case led to an agreement requiring the government to release children to their parents, a relative or a licensed program within 20 days.

In the ruling, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings."

How it works in practice: Immigrants have the right to due process. But in reality, says, Andrew Arthur, a resident fellow in law and policy at the conservative Center for Immigration Studies, "courts of law run the gamut."

In some cases, immigrants are not granted a hearing at all. When asked about the president's tweet, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders pointed to the process of "expedited removal," which was created by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.

"Just because you don't see a judge doesn't mean you aren't receiving due process," Sanders said.

Under the expedited removal process, immigrants who have been in the country illegally for less than two years and are apprehended within 100 miles of the border can be deported almost immediately without going through a court hearing.

The exception is asylum seekers, who must be granted a hearing.

Those who are not processed through expedited removal have the right to due process in an immigration court, where the main goal is to decide whether a person has a legal claim to remain in the U.S.

"In immigration court, you have very few rights," said John Gihon, an immigration attorney who spent six years as a prosecutor for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement before moving into private practice.

Gihon says the bar for what constitutes evidence is lax in immigration court. Documents do not have to be authenticated, and hearsay, a statement made by someone outside of the court, as opposed to on the witness stand, counts as admissible evidence. Hearsay is not allowed in most U.S. courts.

"In the majority of cases, it's a lock solid 100 percent guaranteed conviction because there is little defense, and most would confess they crossed the border illegally," Gihon said.

The right to legal counsel

What the law says: The Sixth Amendment states that "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall…have the assistance of counsel for his defense."

The Supreme Court ruled in the 1963 case Gideon v Wainwright that if a person is too poor to hire an attorney, the government must appoint one.

How it works in practice: Because most deportation proceedings are civil rather than criminal cases, the right to legal counsel often doesn't apply.

The Trump administration's zero-tolerance policy now requires most illegal border crossings to be tried as criminal cases, the exception being parents who cross the border illegally with children. After public outcry about separating families, the head of Customs and Border Protection said Monday the agency has stopped referring parents for prosecution. Other immigrants will still be charged with a crime.

Under the law, anyone facing a criminal charge has the right to counsel. However, the government is only required to provide counsel if the person is accused of a felony. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor.
I was speaking of rights as in being here illegal... (show quote)


Linda; All good info and factually correct.

Many words have been written by legal scholars and philosophers about the constitution containing all the ingredients necessary to make it's own undoing. For me this whole issue, illegal immigration, puts a fine point on the opportunities to distort the constitution and attendant laws to affect a desired outcome, mixing those ingredients just so …

And so, over the past 10 years or so we have witnessed the creation by the Leftist Democrats of a whole new, protected class. While we sit by and expect the law to work they make the law work, so to speak. And if that doesn't work they simply ignore it.

Pragmatically speaking, of illegal aliens that is, once they are in, they are in … Optionally, don't let them in.

I understand your argument. I'm just calling a spade a spade.
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