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Aug 30, 2018 05:48:57   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/trudeau-caves-canadian-prime-minister-says-new-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday/?utm=pushnami

I would have gone about this different than Trump, but an honest person must admit Trump's method is working. And working quickly.

Great News for America.... Which means Bad News for Democrats.

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Aug 30, 2018 08:00:14   #
Gatsby
 
Super Dave wrote:
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/trudeau-caves-canadian-prime-minister-says-new-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday/?utm=pushnami

I would have gone about this different than Trump, but an honest person must admit Trump's method is working. And working quickly.

Great News for America.... Which means Bad News for Democrats.


The MSM will be losing a lot of sleep, trying to figure out how to put a negative 'spin' on this.

'Trump Tariffs' have certainly been effective at bringing countries to the table.

Will the next deal announced be a new trade treaty with the E.U.? Then G.B.?

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Aug 30, 2018 08:08:40   #
roy
 
Super Dave wrote:
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/trudeau-caves-canadian-prime-minister-says-new-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday/?utm=pushnami

I would have gone about this different than Trump, but an honest person must admit Trump's method is working. And working quickly.

Great News for America.... Which means Bad News for Democrats.


Other than gaining a few low paid parts jobs,and new car prices going up what is gained.Ok mexican workers building the cars in mexico are supposed to make 16 dollars an hour,and supposed to be able to have unions which they have now but the companys run the unions.whose going to enforce the 16 dollars an hour,whose going to enforce better working conditions for the workers? The anwser is nobody,so what we get out of this car deal is higher car prices which when people figure this out they aint going to like it.So now we wait on canada to see how well be paying more for what we get from canada.

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Aug 30, 2018 08:10:14   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
The outsider Trump is giving the so-call experts a lesson on how to level the playing field. I have always wonder how exporting the jobs to other nations is a benfit to the exporters, the USA. Since this was a Clinton Plan anybody with 2 nickles to rub to gather should have known this was a SNOW JOB.
Gatsby wrote:
The MSM will be losing a lot of sleep, trying to figure out how to put a negative 'spin' on this.

'Trump Tariffs' have certainly been effective at bringing countries to the table.

Will the next deal announced be a new trade treaty with the E.U.? Then G.B.?

Reply
Aug 30, 2018 08:56:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
4. Private equity firms have increased the pressure to cut costs by any means necessary, leading to more overseas outsourcing. Steve Pearlstein, a professor of public and international affairs at George Mason University and a Pulitzer-prize winning columnist, details the overseas outsourcing done by private equity firms in the 1980s, beginning with:

A wave of corporate takeovers, many of them unwanted and uninvited. Corporate executives came to fear that if they did not run their businesses with the aim of maximizing short-term profits and share prices, their companies would become takeover targets and they would be out of a job. Overnight, outsourcing became a manhood test for corporate executives.

For the private equity firms that took over companies, “the standard strategy has been to load up company executives with so much stock and stock options that they don’t hesitate to make difficult decisions such as shedding divisions, closing plants or outsourcing work overseas.”

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Aug 30, 2018 08:58:54   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
roy wrote:
Other than gaining a few low paid parts jobs,and new car prices going up what is gained.Ok mexican workers building the cars in mexico are supposed to make 16 dollars an hour,and supposed to be able to have unions which they have now but the companys run the unions.whose going to enforce the 16 dollars an hour,whose going to enforce better working conditions for the workers? The anwser is nobody,so what we get out of this car deal is higher car prices which when people figure this out they aint going to like it.So now we wait on canada to see how well be paying more for what we get from canada.
Other than gaining a few low paid parts jobs,and n... (show quote)
It must suck to get up every day trying to figure out some way to hate it when America makes progress.

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Aug 30, 2018 09:45:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/trudeau-caves-canadian-prime-minister-says-new-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday/?utm=pushnami

I would have gone about this different than Trump, but an honest person must admit Trump's method is working. And working quickly.

Great News for America.... Which means Bad News for Democrats.




As your news flash came from hannity, i would think you read it..

If you read it, what has changed? Talks with Canada have been on going for months.

we have always had the possablity of an agreement by the end of the week. So far, has not happened..

But back to the "agreement" with mexico.. Much like the agreement with NK, nothing has happened yet.. no matter what happens, It can not happen before next year, 2019...

I also can not happen before congress votes it in..

Simply because trump used it to divert from his endless legal problems does not make it a done deal..

We also need to know what it contains, what it is about..

I have only found mention of car parts mfg... NAFTA is about much more than that and for NAFTA to be replaced, all of it must be considered and addressed..

so inspite of the orange dream, we have a long way to go, with both Mexico and Canada to recover our markets..

while I hope it is so... I will be skeptical of anything that orange cloud has to say..

As with the NK "accomplishment" gee, it was not anything like the trump fool said it was.. it was only more of the same old crap.. Just like the "agreement" in the 90s..



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Aug 30, 2018 09:55:44   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Owl32 wrote:
The outsider Trump is giving the so-call experts a lesson on how to level the playing field. I have always wonder how exporting the jobs to other nations is a benfit to the exporters, the USA. Since this was a Clinton Plan anybody with 2 nickles to rub to gather should have known this was a SNOW JOB.



Oh, you said 'Snow Job' ... For a minute there I thought I misread it ...

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Aug 30, 2018 10:05:02   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Super Dave wrote:
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/trudeau-caves-canadian-prime-minister-says-new-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday/?utm=pushnami

I would have gone about this different than Trump, but an honest person must admit Trump's method is working. And working quickly.

Great News for America.... Which means Bad News for Democrats.


One has to wonder how the historically Republican hating labor unions fit into this ... Unless I miss something this is a huge gain for them. Has Trump bridged that gap? It also appears that the corporations are hamstrung by tariffs so exporting the jobs will not serve their margin lines as it has in the past.

While we might pay a little more in the short term, in the long run, this is the dirty work that needs to be done to give America back to Americans.

Screw the Democrats!

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Aug 30, 2018 10:44:59   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
donot we all hope to increase our own income and the result of this is that cost of things has to follow the wages and cost that created them. As for Republican hating unions is not about the people in the unions its their leadership that forces all members to pay dues and the leaders give all this money to Democracts this collusions right.
CDM wrote:
One has to wonder how the historically Republican hating labor unions fit into this ... Unless I miss something this is a huge gain for them. Has Trump bridged that gap? It also appears that the corporations are hamstrung by tariffs so exporting the jobs will not serve their margin lines as it has in the past.

While we might pay a little more in the short term, in the long run, this is the dirty work that needs to be done to give America back to Americans.

Screw the Democrats!
One has to wonder how the historically Republican ... (show quote)

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Aug 30, 2018 11:09:50   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Owl32 wrote:
donot we all hope to increase our own income and the result of this is that cost of things has to follow the wages and cost that created them. As for Republican hating unions is not about the people in the unions its their leadership that forces all members to pay dues and the leaders give all this money to Democracts this collusions right.


Yes, price follows cost, normally. This economic law seems, however, to have escaped some foreign and domestic government leaders and economists. If we want to continue purchasing at fictitiously low prices, making our income look deceptively higher, we can continue to not produce our own goods. Let's consider shutting down all our manufacturing or, paying wages equivalent to the low-cost producers. Or, we can, with reasonable trade agreements, all share the costs EQUITABLY increasing global participation and standard of living over the long term.

Do you want to depend on globalist, Leftist Progressive Democrats for 'reasonable trade agreements'? Really? I mean, they've done so well over the past 4 decades...

Giving over dues monies to a political party is not collusion. It's quite legal. If, however, after the past 50 years of union degradation the rank and file members are too stupid to see the cause ... well, they deserve what they get.

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Aug 30, 2018 13:04:59   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
As your news flash came from hannity, i would think you read it..

If you read it, what has changed? Talks with Canada have been on going for months.

we have always had the possablity of an agreement by the end of the week. So far, has not happened..

But back to the "agreement" with mexico.. Much like the agreement with NK, nothing has happened yet.. no matter what happens, It can not happen before next year, 2019...

I also can not happen before congress votes it in..

Simply because trump used it to divert from his endless legal problems does not make it a done deal..

We also need to know what it contains, what it is about..

I have only found mention of car parts mfg... NAFTA is about much more than that and for NAFTA to be replaced, all of it must be considered and addressed..

so inspite of the orange dream, we have a long way to go, with both Mexico and Canada to recover our markets..

while I hope it is so... I will be skeptical of anything that orange cloud has to say..

As with the NK "accomplishment" gee, it was not anything like the trump fool said it was.. it was only more of the same old crap.. Just like the "agreement" in the 90s..
As your news flash came from hannity, i would thin... (show quote)

What has changed is that Americans are negotiating from a position of strength, for the first time in decades. What's different is that "America First" isn't considered a bad thing by the POTUS.

What's different is that Trump celebrates America instead of apologizing for America.

I get the fact that everything good for America pisses you off. Really. I've seen it before.

If you admitted Trump's achievements you would either have to admit you where wrong, or admit you hated American prosperity.

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Aug 30, 2018 14:21:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
What has changed is that Americans are negotiating from a position of strength, for the first time in decades. What's different is that "America First" isn't considered a bad thing by the POTUS.

What's different is that Trump celebrates America instead of apologizing for America.

I get the fact that everything good for America pisses you off. Really. I've seen it before.

If you admitted Trump's achievements you would either have to admit you where wrong, or admit you hated American prosperity.
What has changed is that Americans are negotiating... (show quote)




factoid for all of you... trump has not achievements that are good for the middle class or good for America in the long term..

as for trade agreements.....America is the worlds number one consumer economy.. has been for decades..

Do any of you think for one minute that American business had nothing to say about international trade agreements??

No one forced these terms on America, our country, run by business was happy to make these trade agreements and gladly accepted the terms and helped to write those terms from day one..

As for my point... it was only that the skimpy tweet from the orange guy had no details.. I am sure he know nothing but the trade agreement is about much more then auto parts..

what else has to be settled before the agreement is signed and put to work?

He babbled that NK was a done deal. But it was no different than any other time in the past.. but trump gave up much more with out getting any return for his mouth..

That problem is back where it was a year ago.. NK building launch towers, calling America thugs and doing as they please..

ONly thing to change was a new approch to SK.. they may in fact come to some agreements, but not because the orange con opened his mouth..

that will trump deflect of the day be for Friday??



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Aug 30, 2018 14:23:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Super Dave wrote:
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/trudeau-caves-canadian-prime-minister-says-new-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday/?utm=pushnami

I would have gone about this different than Trump, but an honest person must admit Trump's method is working. And working quickly.

Great News for America.... Which means Bad News for Democrats.


It's a wonderful thing.

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Aug 30, 2018 14:30:11   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
YOU GOT IT, collusion is not a crime. I did not say it was.
CDM wrote:
Yes, price follows cost, normally. This economic law seems, however, to have escaped some foreign and domestic government leaders and economists. If we want to continue purchasing at fictitiously low prices, making our income look deceptively higher, we can continue to not produce our own goods. Let's consider shutting down all our manufacturing or, paying wages equivalent to the low-cost producers. Or, we can, with reasonable trade agreements, all share the costs EQUITABLY increasing global participation and standard of living over the long term.

Do you want to depend on globalist, Leftist Progressive Democrats for 'reasonable trade agreements'? Really? I mean, they've done so well over the past 4 decades...

Giving over dues monies to a political party is not collusion. It's quite legal. If, however, after the past 50 years of union degradation the rank and file members are too stupid to see the cause ... well, they deserve what they get.
Yes, price follows cost, normally. This economic ... (show quote)

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