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Feb 10, 2016 14:37:36   #
TexaCan wrote:
I have been studying prophecy for several years now. It is absolutely fascinating to me! I would love to hear from others as to who is Babylon in Revelation. I used to think that Babylon is Babylon. I believe that the Bible is literal unless it is evident that it is allegorical. Is it America or Saudi Arabia or Rome? I cannot make my mind up. I know their is a plethora of different opinions here so I would love to hear yours!&#128519;

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Feb 10, 2016 14:33:13   #
sweetlips wrote:
That's how god exercises the trees and tall grass!!!!!!!!!!

just watch them bend and sway in the wind.


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Feb 10, 2016 14:31:37   #
PaulPisces wrote:
OK, Loki is perhaps more focused on other parts of grammar than syntax, but this little meme made me think of him anyway.

Punctuation Matters to Lives!!


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Feb 10, 2016 14:29:25   #
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
What's a Bible difficulty? A Bible difficulty is an apparent problem posed by the biblical record. It might be called an error, a mistake, a difficulty, a challenge, a contradiction, or any number of other terms. Critics of the Bible are sometimes hostile in their claims that the Bible is "full of contradictions" or "difficulties," but these apparent problems are also brought up by committed Christians wanting to make sense of God's Word.

Rather than get into a number of specific examples, it will be more beneficial to learn some key tips for handling Bible difficulties. That way, whenever you encounter a seeming problem in the Bible, you will be able to use these tips as a starting point for resolving the difficulty.

Essentially, handling Bible difficulties is a matter of hermeneutics or interpretation (specifically, biblical interpretation). But other factors also come into play when interpreting, such as looking for a reasonable explanation, carefully making comparisons to other passages when necessary, and in general puzzling through possible answers and satisfactory resolutions to apparent problems.

Theologically liberal approaches to the Bible, on the other hand, often simply accept contradictions as part of a flawed record. But if the Bible is God's Word, and if God is all knowing and all powerful, it stands to reason we should be able to trust the Bible.

Tips from a Bible Scholar

What are some helpful general tips for handling Bible difficulties? Fortunately, a number of Bible scholars have offered their insights. Here are some tips gleaned from the late Gleason Archer's fine book Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties
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"Be fully persuaded in your own mind that an adequate explanation exists, even though you have not found it yet." In other words, Archer is accepting the Bible as an accurate, authoritative collection of documents – God's inspired Word. Once a case has been made for this fact, then it stands to reason that the Bible should not contain any serious discrepancies in the manuscript copies. If you come across a Bible difficulty, there should be one or more reasonable explanations for it.
"Carefully study the context and framework of the verse in which the problem arises until you gain some idea of what the verse is intended to mean within its own setting." This is a key point of biblical hermeneutics – the science and art of interpreting the Bible. Context matters significantly. Keep in mind the context of a particular verse in a book, as well as the context given the broader teachings on the subject throughout the entire Bible.
"In the case of parallel passages, the only method that can be justified is harmonization." This helpful tip applies more to the four New Testament Gospels than anywhere else, though there certainly are parallel accounts of historical events in the Old Testament as well. There's no doubt that the Gospels contain various accounts from different perspectives, but these accounts should be able to be reconciled. Critics would not be happy if the four Gospels were identical in their reports of certain events, accusing the authors of collusion. Ironically, however, they aren't happy with the differences either. The best approach is to study the passages and find a way to harmonize them without compromising the essence of the text.
"Consult the best commentaries available, especially those written by Evangelical scholars who believe in the integrity of Scripture." A good commentary is a valuable resource. Many alleged Bible difficulties are addressed in such books. One helpful series is the Expositor's Bible Commentary(Zondervan). With the rise of Bible software, many commentaries are now included in these packages as well.
"Many Bible difficulties result from a minor error on the part of a copyist in the transmission of the text." This is an important point, especially when it comes to apparent numerical discrepancies. While Christians who adhere to inerrancy believe the original Bible manuscripts contained no errors whatsoever, they do grant that copies may contain a small number of errors. These errors or variants, however, do not change any key Christian doctrines.
"Whenever historical accounts of the Bible are called in question on the basis of alleged disagreement with the findings of archaeology or the testimony of ancient non-Hebrew documents, always remember that the Bible is itself an archaeological document of the highest caliber." Again and again throughout history, the archaeological evidence has supported the biblical record, not contradicted it. The evidence is clearly on the side of the Bible. Be wary of the latest news story claiming to debunk some key aspect of Christianity on the basis of recent findings that have yet to be studied in detail by qualified scholars. For more on the archeological evidence for the Bible see The Archaeological Study Bible (Zondervan).
More Advice (from two Bible scholars)

In addition to Archer's helpful tips for handling Bible difficulties, When Critics Ask also offers its share of useful insights. Here's a selection of the advice:
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"Mistake 1: Assuming that the Unexplained Is Not Explainable." This ties into Archer's advice "that an adequate explanation exists." Be confident that if you encounter a Bible difficulty, there is a reasonable explanation.
"Mistake 2: Presuming the Bible Guilty Until Proven Innocent." This is not treating the biblical text fairly. As with other historical documents, let's grant it the benefit of the doubt unless clear evidence says otherwise.
"Mistake 3: Confusing Our Fallible Interpretations with God's Infallible Revelation." Usually the problem with alleged Bible contradictions and difficulties is with our interpretation, theology, or approach to the text, not with the actual text itself. We make mistakes, but God doesn't.
"Mistake 4: Failing to Understand the Context of the Passage." Again, context is supremely important when handling Bible difficulties. In most cases, a careful reading of the passage(s) in question, in their proper contexts, will resolve apparent difficulties.
"Mistake 5: Neglecting to Interpret Difficult Passages in the Light of Clear Ones." This is a key concept to keep in mind when approaching Bible difficulties that fall into the category of an obscure or particularly challenging passage. We may not be able to completely understand or explain the isolated passage in question, but given the broader context of the Bible and clear teachings on the subject elsewhere, we should be able to come to a good consensus on the matter at hand. A concept known as the perspicuity of Scripture is relevant in such cases. This means that the Bible is clear in essential matters.<span class="footnote">
Bible Difficulties?

Does the Bible contain some difficult passages? Yes. Are they unresolvable? No. Whenever a critic or sincere believer comes across an alleged Bible difficulty, it has always been answered. "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness …" (1 Timothy 3:16, NIV)

Gleason L. Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Zondervan, 1982), pp. 15-17.

Norman Geisler and Thomas Howe, When Critics Ask (Victor Books, 1992), pp. 15-26.

Geisler and Howe cover twelve additional "mistakes" in reference to biblical interpretation and handling Bible difficulties. Other helpful resources in addition to Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties and When Critics Ask include Knowing Scripture by R.C. Sproul (IVP, 1977), Exegetical Fallacies by D.A. Carson (Baker, 1984), Scripture Twisting by James Sire (IVP, 1980), and Introduction to Biblical Interpretation by William Klein, Craig Blomberg, et. al. (Thomas Nelson, 2004).
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:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Good post.
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Feb 10, 2016 13:41:51   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
Maybe the chemtrails can only by seen by glue-sniffers.


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Feb 10, 2016 09:51:36   #
Gener wrote:
Hello TIFFANY! It is a fact that the U.S. Air Force is spraying our air with chemicals. But there is little point in talking about it or discussing it because people believe what they want to believe. The U.S. Air Force has a contract with Monsanto to destroy farmland which Monsanto then buys up, waits until the land is useful again, then grows GMO crops on that land.

There are other reasons for it as well however. One is to try to prove global warming, but on the opposite side of the fence, it is theorized that the spraying can actually deplete some of the suns rays from getting in in order to stop global warming. They use it in different ways for different purposes.

Some say they are NOT chemtrails, only contrails caused by condensation in out atmosphere. But when you see this actually happening, you can see commercial airliners NOT leaving a contrail at the same time Air Force planes are doing it. Furthermore, the military planes crisscross the sky over and over again, turning the sky a whitish blue/gray, and the trails do not go away for hours. Normal contrails dissipate quickly. I have seen this happening over and over again. I've seen it in Idaho, I've seen it in Florida, I've seen it in Georgia, I've seen it in New Mexico and Arizona, and other places as well. It is real, but nobody here will believe it unless they already believe it. They just don't change their mind, at all.
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Maybe the chem trails are only being dropped on those who deserve it.
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Feb 10, 2016 09:44:46   #
TexaCan wrote:
Rufus, I could not have stated that any better! I am a Baptist but I reserve the right to use my own brain. I believe that every one of us will be surprised of the things that we got wrong. And that's ok. Jesus knows our heart! There will be people saved from different denominations, not just from this one or that one. Believing in the rapture or not is not a determining factor. Accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior, believing that he is the Son of God, that He died on the cross for our sins, was buried, arose, and sets on the right side of GOD the father and will return for His children very soon. Maranatha !!!!!!!
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Amen. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Feb 8, 2016 22:58:47   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
And he doesn't even have the services of a camel for his travels.


I have lived a hard life.
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Feb 8, 2016 22:54:37   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
Try using a GPS when in the desert. It just might save you a lot of walking.

Lord willing.
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Feb 8, 2016 22:50:10   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
No he is still around on a couple of threads. I stay out of the ones he inhabits. I don't have time for Nazi's or Muzzies.


I agree. :thumbup:
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Feb 8, 2016 19:38:08   #
slatten49 wrote:
"Damnable puns :?: " :shock: :lol: I'm planning on entering the pun, pass and kick competition. :mrgreen:


Sounds like pun. Dammit man. Now you've got me doing it. :x :x :x
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Feb 8, 2016 19:36:49   #
TIFFANY wrote:
NO NO NO..what im talking about is not contrails as seen coming out of a jet airliner..I know the difference...iN FACT now THEY R USING DRONES TO FLY THE CHEMICALS ALL OVER..used to be jumbo 747..loaded with huge tankers..go see the utube on all this chemtrails .com...Airliners do not fly right over my home here in az.these drones do...airliners do not leave a checkerboard pattern all over the sky..THESE R NOT AIRLINERS CONTAINING PASSENGERS..i wish they were..I suggest you do your homework...


Why don't you shoot the drones down? I will not allow drones to fly over my property.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:35:11   #
AuntiE wrote:
I thought we agreed you would not publish such pictures. :hunf: :hunf: :twisted:


Sorry Auntie. The devil made me do it.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:34:17   #
BigMike wrote:
She did mention once that she had long hair! :lol:

Reminds me of one of my video game characters...sans the armor double bladed weaponry! :lol:


I may get in trouble for posting it. 8-)
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Feb 8, 2016 19:33:01   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
This was previously discussed ad infinitum by, I believe, one of OPP's nutcases by the name of Payne1000. Anyhow, welcome aboard.


Haven't heard from Payne recently. Maybe he was assassinated or run over by a truck or something. We can only hope. Praise God. Amen. :thumbup:
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