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Nov 28, 2018 20:06:55   #
Seth wrote:
Floyd, you are no different from every other leftist, you are all the same lockstep robots whose only evidence on anything, ever, whether it involves the topic at hand, immigration or even global warming, boils down to "because we say it is."

All in all, you are a bunch of nasty, silly people who take yourselves entirely too seriously and invariably espouse causes you have little or no reasoning ability to think through, so that on those occasions when they reach fruition they do a lot more irreversible harm than any good, including to those who are the designated "beneficiaries" of your efforts.

At this point, you people have taken on the task of trying to change our entire society, one which has been doing just fine without your "help," and the end result of what you and other leftists want to do to "help" the rest of us would only bring us misery we never asked for and don't deserve.

Well, maybe we DO deserve it for not being a lot more extreme in dealing with the threat you leftists pose to our liberty, because by allowing you, the enemy within, the same freedoms, we find you using them against us in an effort to take them away.
Floyd, you are no different from every other lefti... (show quote)


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Nov 28, 2018 17:59:22   #
pafret wrote:
If she left Bill at home the stadium would be empty.




If Lorena Bobbitt had been First Lady during his Presidency, Bill Clinton would have behaved.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:46:18   #
Floyd Brown wrote:
You may have your way today.

But with in that group that is turned away.
There may well be a future terrorist.
One who by most tokens have become a good citizen.
Closing our borders with do us more harm in the long run that letting a few more people in now.

The more support you give to Trump & his actions the more you will get hurt personally by them.
To day it may be your way.
I just hope you let go in time so as not to go down with him.
Because supporting Trump is what is encouraging him to do what ever he wishes.

All a long I have been thinking you were an intelligent person in charge of you life.

People in many respect are like bees.
Leave them alone & they won't sting you.
Bu mess with them & they will mess with you.

You & I who live in a divided nation that will be facing a world with out the other half of the divided.

At one time not to long ago we lived here getting along with each other quite peacefully.
Now when we need each other more that we ever did.
There seems to be a great deal of hate coming from your side or the street.

That is so not the answer.
Because there are those that feel like you.
That the only good liberal is a dead liberal.

A divided nation is not a complete nation.
So as long as people like you & I are divided. we have no real nation.
Time is running out to save this nation.
Soon a new plan needs to be in place.

Will It be one we can agree on?
I say that is much up to those that think much like you.

Or will the New World Order be the future.
You see I don't quite look at that as a bad thing for me.
The choice or the likes of Trump or the New World Order is an easy one for me to make.

So there you are.
We will never have any individual vote on the issue.
I hope you can be happy for now.

It is better to adjust to the changes with a smile than with frown.
After all it has been going on for some time now bit by bit.
We are like frogs in water being heated.
We just don't get it that we are in trouble until it is to late.

Mostly because you reject any thing a liberal has to offer.
I am not sad because we can still have each others back.

There may be time yet (Not much though) to look at what it is I see for the future.
I can see my self living in your world (I live there now).
The new world is going to be the one when the problems & rewards will be shared with others in a better way.

It is no longer going to be exclusively the White Christian males world.
Women & people of other ethnics will have more say.

As I see you as being in many ways much like my self.
With the feeling there will not be a real great change in my life.
I tend to think you can adjust to the changes if I canl.

I was looking forward to you & others much like us laying out a plan where we all could get along.
Now it looks like some one else will be making the plans.
We will have to get along with their plan.

What ever will be, will be.
You may have your way today. br br But with in th... (show quote)




It is really difficult to have an intelligent discussion with a person who is so obviously brainwashed he no longer understands (nor cares) where these divisions started. You blame Trump and Republicans for a division which was started by Hillary Clinton's corruption, her campaign tactics, exacerbated by a partisan, Left-wing media whose relentless, illogical drumbeat of misinformation began with Donald Trump's successful nomination and continues today 2 1/2 years later while giving him little or no credit for massive positive economic change domestically. His leadership (being first to stand against certain agreements and proposals) are now bearing the fruit of other nations following him. He is doing his best to expose the denizens of the swamp who are so entrenched in the system and have so corrupted our government, YOUR Rights and liberty are at risk of being forfeit forever. You might be able to see this except for those blinders ... or beer goggles ... or whatever you are using that are distorting your view so that you would even CONSIDER giving up your freedom as a result of the coming chaos created by Leftist policies embraced by the Democrats.

Where the future freedom and liberty of my (your) children and grandchildren are concerned, "What ever will be, will be" doesn't cut it. Undefined "change" doesn't cut it; the ones who are advocating for it cannot be trusted to deliver what it is you have in mind. "The new world is going to be the one when the problems & rewards will be shared with others in a better way" - what kind of irresponsible, Socialist Hippie crap is that? And you are the one accusing others of smoking something strange?
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Nov 28, 2018 17:10:26   #
Floyd Brown wrote:
The information is out there.
Just Google Trump. Just read what turns up.
Spend time because there is not really a lot of good things about him.
I say if you find some thing that is good about him then you let others read that.
It won't be easy to find or be a lot.

It is not really important to me if you know any thing or not.
I just look a bit deeper Than most people do.
I am not one to just say or agree flatly to what some one else has to say.
If I put the words down.
I only stand by that they are my words & thoughts.

I have grown tired of the antics of political parties & those that support them.
I am not here to change you thoughts or ideals.

I offer mine & read yours.

I have been on this site long enough to know that many like to sound off & feel they know what & how to say it.
They come & they go.

Or they pick a side to be on.

As far as I can see you have as you see of me.
Nothing of any value to offer.
Little by little we can draw a picture of those who may or may not think much like we do.
The information is out there. br Just Google Trump... (show quote)




I asked for specific charges ... what you thought were critical to making or reinforcing your point. All I get from you is a sales pitch about what a great, fair-minded, thorough, investigative guy you are and more hyperbole. I'm asking you again to be specific with evidence and to stop trying to turn it around on me. Your original statement is what is in question here, not what I do or do not know. Many people on these posts like to voice their opinions with nothing other than an "opinion" with no factual basis to back it up from some talking head with dubious credentials, known bias and less credibility than Hillary with her "mind is in a blender" denials and ability to forget critical information.
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Nov 28, 2018 14:26:19   #
By US Politics and News On Nov 28, 2018

If there was any doubt whether Hillary Clinton is planning a “third time’s the charm” run at the US presidency, we can now put those thoughts to rest. Based on her ceaseless Trump-bashing and insistence on reinserting herself on the world stage, it’s pretty obvious she’s planning to run.

On the most recent leg of her fawning media tour, Mrs. Clinton lectured European nations over the ongoing migrant crisis, in an interview with The Guardian.

She says Europe shouldn’t take any more Muslim refugees. This is a remarkably tone-deaf statement coming from Hillary Clinton since she is the primary reason why so many Muslim refugees are fleeing their home countries!

Here is Mrs. Clinton’s statement to The Guardian:

“I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part and must send a very clear message – ‘We are not going to be able to provide refuge and support’ – because if we don’t deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic.”

Clueless statements like that are the reason why Hillary Clinton is one of the caricatures on the cover of Tucker Carlson’s new book, “Ship of Fools.” Elites with no accountability, no sense of responsibility for the harm they cause with their idiotic policies, are what brought America to the brink of destruction before the people elected Donald Trump.

Based on Clinton’s own words, the refugee crisis in Europe just happened in a vacuum. Tens of millions of Muslims from Africa and the Middle East just decided to flee to Europe one day. It just happened! But now it’s Europe’s responsibility to curb the refugee flood.

How exactly did that refugee crisis in Europe begin? Oh, right. Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State for the Obama administration.

Exercising what the media always described as “smart diplomacy,” Secretary Clinton and Obama funneled billions of dollars in weapons and cash to the Muslim Brotherhood, which went to work fomenting violent revolution in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Mali, Central African Republic, Nigeria, Sudan – well, who can keep track of all the countries where the suddenly cash- and weapons-rich Muslim Brotherhood went to work?

Also, please do not ask uncomfortable questions about the fact that all of the adult males in the extended Obama family in Africa are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. Asking questions about that is known as “Islamophobia.”

Egypt was thrown into turmoil after Obama/Clinton cash bought the elections for the Muslim Brotherhood. The subsequent “Hey, let’s act like ISIS” government in Egypt was so bad that the Egyptian military overthrew it and no one in Egypt complained.

Clinton and Obama lured foreign fighters to Syria to launch a civil war there. According to the international branch of the New York Times, the Clinton-run State Department was paying cash bonuses to ISIS recruiters for every foreign fighter they signed up to go to Syria, to attempt the overthrow of Bashar al Assad. That civil war continues to this day and millions of Syrians continue to flee.

African slaves are being sold in open-air markets in Libya today. That was also because of Hillary’s “smart diplomacy.”

Muammar Ghadaffy was cooperating with the US in the war on terror and had dismantled his own weapons of mass destruction following the Iraq war. But according to Crooked Hillary, he had to go. Muslim Brotherhood: Sic ‘em!

And who could forget Iraq, where Hillary and Barack’s smart diplomacy called for a total pullback of US troops after being warned that the ensuing vacuum would result in chaos and the creation of ISIS?

The endgame of all of this smart diplomacy has been hundreds of thousands of belligerent and unemployable Muslims fleeing to the United States, and millions fleeing to Europe.

The social costs of this are staggering and will be felt for decades.

Several European nations are likely to fall to Islam in a few decades because of Hillary’s follies in the Middle East. But now she says Europe has done enough, it’s fine to finally cut off the refugee spigot.

This is like having the arsonist who set your house on fire finally granting you permission to call the fire department after the flames have reached the second floor. Thanks, Hillary!

The world and America dodged a huge bullet with the election of President Trump over Hillary Clinton. But now it looks like we’ll have to dodge it again in 2020.

Hillary Clinton may soon be rigging another election near you ...




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Nov 28, 2018 13:57:54   #
[quote=Floyd Brown]Wow!

Just what brings you to offer such a bold statement?
He is under investigation & has pending court cases.

You really have no way to offer any thing to help in the dismissal of those cases.
Every day he is digging a deeper hole that will bury him.

He has had plenty of time to stop what he has been doing.

I will just say what ever is said & done from this point on is irrelevant.
The issue is now out in the public & the public is acting on it.
Trumps political future is about to be over.

The political future of the republican party will also be in deep dodo if Trump is on the 2020 Ballot.

Put that in your pipe & smoke it with what ever else you have been smoking.

Have you good days now.
The future will not be as you would like it.[/quote


Wow! What a perfect example of how blind people can be when the Left-wing media establishes the limits on the information to which they want you to have access. I thought blinders had to be custom made in these modern times, but it appears you have found a sale on them somewhere. Any 'hole' Trump may be digging is for the Mueller team of partisan Democrats to bury themselves. But I understand how easy it is to miss the nuances when your olfactory sinuses are used to the smell of bullshit coming from your news sources.

If you have so much to offer in the way of unimpeachable sources and information on what is coming down the pipe in the way of convictions, or some viewpoint that demonstrates an insight into these "pending court cases" ... PLEASE!! Lay it out for us in detail so that we ALL can share in this valuable insight. Otherwise, you are nothing but another "clanging cymbal, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing," and your statement "You really have no way to offer any thing to help in the dismissal of those cases" applies more specifically to you.
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Nov 28, 2018 13:14:06   #
Seth wrote:
I've said this before and I'll say it again, a whole lot of people had better be careful what they wish for, because once they get what they presently think they want, it's going to be too late to change their minds.

What irritates the (expletive) out of me is that the people who want to make this happen, and I think defining it as "importing the third world into a modern nation" and "with all its baggage" sum it up perfectly, are attempting to force something on the rest of us that we know would have both indelible and tragic impacts on our lives, the safety of our loved ones and our liberty and ring down the curtain on America in every way we know and love this great country.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, a who... (show quote)



Bush '43 unfortunately was one of these globalists as was his father, Bush '41. What the U.N. fears most about the United States is what is represented by the Constitution of the United States and NOT found in the U.N. Constitution for the NWO: Natural Law being the origin of the Rights of Man where the Creator is the source of our Rights - the Creator created Man, Man created government. But Government (especially WORLD government) has no power over 'Acts of God', which explains why it is so important for them to change the hierarchy to Government (the peoples' NEW religion, in effect replacing God as the source of our Rights), ending then with Man (secular Humanist view) with religion playing little or no part in our lives.

Whereas Christianity, its moral teachings, rules and precepts, had the primary role (a foundation of love and mutual respect, one for another) which underlies the tolerance that is BUILT IN to our system of self-government, and provides the boundaries for the proper exercise of our individual Rights within those boundaries while not favoring one religion over another, the secular view of government says those boundaries are prescribed BY government (laws forcing tolerance and Politically Correct beliefs on the people) with individual Rights replaced by "Group Think" and the elimination of any sense of personal responsibility for our actions.

Without the acceptance of personal responsibility for our actions, freedom cannot long exist because someone or something must be there to indemnify a person or group that suffers a loss at the hand of another. That "something" will be government, which must grow ever larger to accommodate those losses. FEMA now is helping to rebuild lives for those suffering losses from natural disasters. But have you noticed how the courts are gradually ignoring the responsibility of perpetrators to victims to restore them financially through restitution, and where a life is taken to ignore the value of that life by GRANTING continued life to the perpetrator in incarceration at the expense of and additional risk to society?

So you see, some of these "tragic impacts on our lives, the safety of our loved ones and our liberty" we have already inflicted on ourselves. You are correct in saying that this movement toward "no borders" would "bring down the curtain" on what is left of America and freedom, but getting people to see and understand what is beyond their nose is a difficult challenge when so many "short sighted" people are that way because they willingly focus on entertainment, whatever slanted opinion is presented to them as news and "education" designed to keep them ignorant, historically and contemporaneously. More than that, it explains why Trump is such a threat to the Deep State and the NWO.
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Nov 28, 2018 11:56:31   #
zillaorange wrote:
As if things in N. Y. couldn't get ANY WORSE with il duce cuomo as Gov. Now we have this KNOW NOTHING representing N. Y. !!!


I think her party loyalists in the House have been watching her and are likely making preparations to minimize the damage she can do. She'll make a lot of noise for the cameras because she is the new 'darling of the press' but, for the most part, she will be ignored by the party power structure who will try to mitigate the damage her "intelligent" contributions bring to her party in the House. She in no way is representative overall of the level of intelligence brought to this struggle by her leadership and may be just a distraction to keep Republicans tilting at windmills.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:56:24   #
Seth wrote:
Nope, he's done nothing criminal. The entire Mueller debacle is a diversion by a lot of people who counted on Hillary's winning in 2016 to cover for them.

With her and Obama gone, they are exposed.

Hopefully, they are toast. They went too far, using our government, at the expense of the people they were there to serve, to feather their nests in ways that pushed the envelope too far to be "overlooked."

They need to be punished as the criminals they are.




Exact consensus opinion held by most informed observers, especially concerning the fraudulent methods employed to initiate the process of this "witch hunt" and to secure the illegal FISA warrant in the first place. Our intelligence networks, if not co-opted by fraud to participate in the falsification of "evidence", have been tainted by this whole charade and the judge on the FISA court who was duped into issuing the warrant for surveillance on Carter Page will have a huge bone to pick with those who 'Sucker Punched' him into issuing it.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:16:31   #
US Politics and News November 27, 2018

The globalists at the UN and in Europe were excited back in July when scores of nations mindlessly signed up for the new UN Migration Pact, an agreement that seeks to regulate the way that countries enforce their immigration laws. Under the leadership of President Trump, America was the only nation at the time which did not sign on to the agreement.

Now that we are less than a month away from the deal being ratified, other nations are starting to abandon the agreement when their citizens get around to reading the fine print.

Last month, Israel, Hungary and Austria all announced that they weren’t going to alter their immigration laws to appease the UN. Poland and Australia followed President Trump’s leadership in November, announcing that they would not ratify the deal either.

As of this writing, Switzerland is leaning strongly against it too. Most of Europe, led by Germany’s wildly unpopular Angela Merkel, are still in agreement with the tenets of this open-borders deal.

President Trump didn’t even have to think twice before rejecting this deal. It is as anti-American as it gets, short of calling for the ban of personally-owned firearms.

One of the biggest dangers of the “Migration Pact” is that it greatly extends the European Union’s already-liberal hate speech laws.

Voicing criticism of mass migration, whether it’s a flotilla of Africans trying to sneak into Spain or the horde of Honduran welfare hopefuls currently knocking on America’s doors from Tijuana, would be criminalized.

Individuals could be jailed for saying anything negative about migrant hordes. Television and radio stations can have their broadcast licenses revoked for having a guest on who questions the wisdom of importing the Third World into a modern nation. Fox News would cease to exist unless it fired everyone to the right of Shepherd Smith under this agreement.

The underlying assumption of the UN pact is that anyone from anywhere in the world can move to any other country if they feel like it, for any reason at all. Laws on accepting refugees were based on charity in the past.

Nations like America agreed to take a limited number of people in, if they were legitimately being persecuted and their lives were in imminent danger. Wanting to sign up for welfare and food stamps is not a good reason for granting someone asylum.

When Australia pointed out that it wouldn’t be ratifying the UN deal, it noted that this policy will only encourage more illegal immigration. This has proven true since President Reagan’s amnesty in 1986, which he viewed as his single biggest mistake in office.

Since the ’86 amnesty, America has absorbed 25% of Mexico’s total population. Are we better off as a nation for this?

California is now under a permanent Democrat majority and Texas is leaning that way.

Middle class farm towns from Idaho to Kentucky have been transformed into shantytowns by these new “Americans” that were imported without any locals being asked.

Is Europe better off for welcoming in millions of Muslim migrants from the Third World, under Angela Merkel’s encouragement?

A French court has just acquitted a Bangladeshi man who raped a French high school girl. His defense attorneys did not dispute that he raped the girl – twice.

Their defense was that he has “different cultural norms” in his home country. Well then, not guilty!

In Sweden, an 11-year-old girl was anally raped by two adult Muslim men on the way to school this month. Despite being able to identify the two men – who stand on the same street corner every day as the girl walks to school – police informed the victim’s mother that they couldn’t do anything.

No arrests were made. At least in France they still go through the formality of arresting migrant rapists before releasing them.

In Germany, an 85-year-old pensioner was murdered in his bed by one of Merkel’s Afghan migrants. The elderly man’s throat was slit. No robbery took place. Just another “infidel” put down for the cause.

None of these crimes can even be reported by mainstream media outlets in Europe – and that situation will only worsen with the UN Migration Pact in place.

Crimes like this were unthinkable in European nations just a few years ago. The Third World brings all of its dysfunctional baggage with it, no matter how good the host nations’ intentions are.

President Trump was absolutely right to reject this open-borders deal. Hopefully even more nations will follow his leadership when it comes time to ratify the pact.


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Nov 27, 2018 23:26:23   #
Jean Deaux wrote:
You and Peewee have nailed this one. I am in total agreement with you both. Keep up the posts!


Jean Deaux (Cool moniker!!) - Thank you very much. I only wish more people were driven to SEEK information instead of allowing the media to "spoon feed" it to them like babies, but anymore the major thrills left to us are received when obvious truths elicit comments of recognition from others, and even MORE information is offered by them in support of the point(s) being made. Everyone learns from those exchanges and positions are reinforced.
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Nov 27, 2018 01:56:54   #
Peewee wrote:
Love it when I find a kindred spirit. It gives me the strength to keep on keeping on.

Let me also say thank you for pushing on the "shall issue" language, hopefully, more states will copy it. The people of Iowa owe you and your group kudos for that and a lot of "atta boys" and back slaps. Well done!

Nice to meet you, glad to know you, and let's keep fighting the good fight! Let's go slay some more giants! We all have gifts, we just need to use them. United we stand and divided we fall.

Love it when I find a kindred spirit. It gives me ... (show quote)


Absolutely!
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Nov 27, 2018 00:33:26   #
TommyRadd wrote:
Read the first chapter of Ruth.

What you don’t seem to factor in is the effects of all our politicians getting away with their evil deeds. It just breeds more disdain for our laws and our way of life. People given places of honor should and must be held to the highest standards of honor and integrity, particularly in regards to their actions toward the American people. Meaning, I’m not nearly as concerned about Trump’s alleged indiscretions with women as I am HRC’s issues with Uranium One, Benghazi, classified emails, Haitian relief scandal, and on and on the list goes.

We the people deserve open accountability from our elected officials - those who have voluntarily taken positions in levels of government. We do not have royals who are forced into those positions. Most often, if not always these days, our politicians are the ones who seek these respected positions. That being the case, they should expect to be treated as leaving their obscurity behind. They made that choice.

To not hold these people accountable would establish an absolutely horrible precedence and put our leaders absolutely above the laws they presume to exercise over the rest of us commoners.

This issue, therefore, is at the very heartbeat of the survival of our country and its unique exceptionalism!

I couldn’t disagree more against pardoning unrepentant politicians (or clergy). If they are ever pardoned, they should also be immediately stripped of the right to EVER work in positions of government in any capacity whatsoever!
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EXACTLY how I feel!! Anything less continues to diminish the value of public service and the trust of the people with which the 'public servant' is endowed.
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Nov 27, 2018 00:28:29   #
padremike wrote:
The garden interview with Bergdahl's parents proclaiming Bergdahl a hero and exchanging 5 Islamic terrorists commanders for one American deserter and traitor. Furthermore, all five of the terrorists that Obama guaranteed would not return to the war are now back in it. Remember now?


All the others on this thread who are positing this and positing that with respect to the requirements, legality or illegality of a pardon are wasting words. The Constitution is clear. The President's power to pardon is absolute : " ... and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves or Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment." No other restrictions or caveats apply. (Article ll, Section 2, Paragraph 1) Personally, I think they should hang her ... then pardon her.
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Nov 27, 2018 00:06:02   #
Peewee wrote:
That's nice of you to say. I just read all the Q posts and follow what others have figured out. I'm not that smart to figure it all out on my own. Believe me, the Deep State reads the Q posts. I absolutely trust Trump and Q.

You may have heard that Corsi and Manafort have both refused to lie for Muller. I love this stuff, I'll be sad when it's all over. I just love seeing bad guys getting what they so richly deserve and have earned. Maybe that's why I always loved westerns. Of course, I believe God is really behind the scene. No one can whip my Father, ha, and prayer really does work, when it aligns with His will. I try not to think how long it'll be before we're lulled back to sleep. For now, we're awake. It's a human and spiritual battle. We have to fight both at the same time to make miracles happen. I think God loves to remove obstacles from our path when we get it right.

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Yes, I did hear about Corsi and Manafort. I think vindication for Trump will be softly swept under the rug by the Left-wing media. They have too much invested in his guilt to utter any mia culpa's, but I hope Mueller is exposed for the vindictive, partisan POS he is.

You and I have some things in common. I have always loved westerns, too, and used the moral lessons taught to us through them as examples to make a point in a speech in a public forum with legislators who were proposing more strict gun control measures. We convinced them that it was a matter of education (or lack of it on their part) and convinced them to abandon their restrictive impulses in favor of seeking more information. We eventually succeeded in converting Iowa from a "may issue" to a "shall issue" state for the issuance of Weapons Permits.

I know from faith - and a powerful personal experience almost losing my wife of 52 years 4 years ago - that the power of prayer is real. I posted recently a reference to a man who worked for me ... a reformed alcoholic, who once told me, "There are no such things as coincidences. Coincidences are just miracles God performs anonymously."

BTW, don't sell yourself short. Anyone who can sift through all the noise and B.S. the Left continues to bomb us with, and come to conclusions that fit in the great scheme of things like pieces in a puzzle, has an intellect and character greater than all the talking heads who sell their souls daily for a job on TV put together.
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