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Dec 15, 2017 16:21:57   #
proud republican wrote:
While your insults on E are fascinating you havent shown any prove of the opposite.....At 66 you should be more wiser then insulting people yourself....As for economy look at the facts unemployment is at all time low i believe its 4.1%, more people spending their money shopping this year then this time last year,so just this little fact should show you that economy is on the rise,not to mention that Dow is at all time record high...now its almost 25000..And please dont tell me that its Obamy doing...Have a nice day,Alabuck...
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Thanks PR.
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Dec 15, 2017 16:21:11   #
PeterS wrote:
So references should come from a right wing biased site? Personally I prefer that they are true over the bias of the site they come from...


Personally I prefer that they are true over the bias of the site they come from... >>> And so do I. That is why it is so easy to doubt most of what you write.
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Dec 15, 2017 16:19:06   #
alabuck wrote:
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I’m sorry you don’t know sarcasm when you see/read it. I call the President, “Trumpet” because he’s always “blowing his own horn.” Also, just like your typical mindless conservative, all you can do is throw-back insults instead of facts to back-up you claims. Tell me “E,” just how much do you know about the economy, it’s causes and affects. From your posts on the thread, it seems you, too, lack a whole lot, knowing even a little bit about anything. All you do is parrot the insults your Russian handlers post.

Unlike you, I’m a 66 year -old man who believes I’ve experienced and grown-up enough to make logical comments, based on known facts, derived from my own, independent research. I don’t rely on just ultra-Reich-wing sources or liberal sources to tell me what’s occurring in the world, either. I use sources that are shown to be politically neutral in their reporting. Have you ever heard of the Associated Press or Reuters News Service? How about the “Congressional Record?” They’re a lot more accurate than Fox to Breitbart and far less political in their coverage. While you, on the other hand, seem to only make insults and innuendo you primary mode of communication. I’ve yet to read where you show any facts or proof of your comments.

If either of us needs to “grow-up,” it’s you. Your continued use of insults and innuendo are indicative of a child’s mental response when faced with situations they can’t immediately figure out. It’s their “go-to” intellectual and emotional defense mechanism. As such, you must “mentally” still be a child. However, seeing as I doubt that you’ve ever been diagnosed as mentally disabled, I’m not knocking the truly, mentally disabled. They can’t help having the condition they’re forced to live with. You, on the other-hand, can improve yourself by researching topics, using politically neutral sources. You’ll be amazed to learn just to how much B.S. you’ve been fed over the years.

Now, run along, E. I believe I hear your mama calling you. It’s time for your nap.
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I’m sorry you don’t know sarcasm when you see/read it. >>> I know sarcasm. I use it myself, often when seeing a continuous stream of cheap insults by so many well known hacks on here.
Also, just like your typical mindless conservative, all you can do is throw-back insults instead of facts to back-up you claims. >>> You don't know $hit about me. I do research a lot and I back it up with common sense derived good principles and practices from a lifetime of using logic to resolve problems.
Tell me “E,” just how much do you know about the economy, it’s causes and affects. >>> I don't have all day to educate you on all I know on the economy. From your posts on the thread, it seems you, too, lack a whole lot, knowing even a little bit about anything. All you do is parrot the insults your Russian handlers post. >>> See, there is one of your own cheap shots you are trying to criticize me for. Russian handlers? What the F--- are you talking about. And If I had any, I would trust them more then your Soros sources.

Unlike you, I’m a 66 year -old man who believes I’ve experienced and grown-up enough to make logical comments, based on known facts, derived from my own, independent research. Unlike you, I thought I knew it all when I was a kid like you. But I've learned a lot in the last 11 years, mostly under the last president and observing his mistakes to know that you are still reading the first chapter.
I don’t rely on just ultra-Reich-wing sources or liberal sources to tell me what’s occurring in the world, either. >>> But probably a whole lot of George Soros and his ilk.
I use sources that are shown to be politically neutral in their reporting. >>> As you personally have determined I suppose.
Have you ever heard of the Associated Press or Reuters News Service? How about the “Congressional Record?” >>> Yes, I've heard of them. What is your point?
They’re a lot more accurate than Fox to Breitbart and far less political in their coverage. >>> Sorry to disappoint you but I never listen to Fox News or Breitbart. And unlike you I really don't watch Television either.
While you, on the other hand, seem to only make insults and innuendo you primary mode of communication. I’ve yet to read where you show any facts or proof of your comments. >>> The record is there. Go read it.

If either of us needs to “grow-up,” it’s you. Your continued use of insults and innuendo are indicative of a child’s mental response when faced with situations they can’t immediately figure out. >>> No they are calculated to show those who appear to be biased hate filled buffoons and calling them out for that.
It’s their “go-to” intellectual and emotional defense mechanism. As such, you must “mentally” still be a child. >>> Actually your attacks against me are coming off as the child in this discussion. Nasty and vindictive.
However, seeing as I doubt that you’ve ever been diagnosed as mentally disabled, >>> Bingo.
I’m not knocking the truly, mentally disabled. They can’t help having the condition they’re forced to live with. You, on the other-hand, can improve yourself by researching topics, using politically neutral sources. You’ll be amazed to learn just to how much B.S. you’ve been fed over the years. >>> And I'm sure that you could also take advantage of your own advice.

Now, run along, E. I believe I hear your mama calling you. It’s time for your nap. >>> I doubt that, sonny. More likely your mommy blowing her favorite Trumpet. Meanwhile you need to put down your own Trumpet, hop into bed, open mouth and insert thumb and maybe more of your dreams might turn into realities. But somehow I hope not.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:38:51   #
kcstargoat wrote:
His economics are solid, except for the jobs gained. Nobody has that right, yet. Maybe if he would stop the childish "Trumpet," referring to Mr. Trump, the President of the United States, you, "E," and others like you, might take him seriously and the insults would stop. Where does he get his statistics from, anyway? He should cite his references.


Now there is a lot of sense to that. When someone insults our President, those that like him, or at least voted for him have, a right to strike back. And yes, references would be nice. Especially if they don't come from a known leftist biased site.

cheers
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Dec 15, 2017 15:33:07   #
Thanks for ending with that pic. He is one of the worst who would further take away our freedom. A truly disgusting man/boy.
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Dec 15, 2017 02:46:06   #
alabuck wrote:
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Nothing you write upsets me. I enjoy reading your fact-less gibberish. I do wonder who makes this stuff up for you, though. For someone with a moniker of “EconomistDon,” I must wonder where you received your education. No matter where it was from, you were ripped-off, because your knowledge of even basic economics leave a lot to be desired.

The Trumpet administration likes to brag about the economy. And, it brags a lot. During a Fox News interview with Laura Ingraham on Nov. 2, Trumpet boasted about the economic gains during his first year in office, calling it “one of the greatest [economic revivals] in the history of our country.” Then, he whined: “I’m not getting enough credit for it.”

It’s not just Trumpet who brags. White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders rattled off several tweets on Dec. 10, citing a series of one-year economic improvements. Her stats were taken from an editorial in the pro-Trumpet, Investor’s Business Daily that claims, “Donald Trump’s relentless focus on tax cuts, deregulation and draining the swamp is great for job growth.”

Even regular readers of “The Fact Checker” know it, automatically, awards 2 Pinocchios to anyone (editorials included) who gives sole credit to a president for economic improvements. That’s because the U.S. economy is far more complex than any one man, and the decisions of both, companies and consumers, loom far larger than most any acts of government, let alone, a single president.

Moreover, and contrary to your comment, it usually takes 2-3 years and a lot of effort for presidential policies to work their way through the country; which, incidentally, is the same amount of “lead-time” big business takes to decide on and to ramp-up it’s capital investments to expand or build new facilities.

Over one year into Trumpet’s presidency, we are still feeling the effects of policies laid out by the Obama administration. But Sanders asserts Barack Obama “now wants credit for the booming Trump economy,” arguing that the “economy is better under President Trump.”

Sanders’s comments bank in the direction of “opinion,” but it is worth asking: Has Trumpet, singlehandedly, hastened an “economic revival” in the United States? Or does Trumpet’s so-called “booming economy” have its roots firmly planted in the Obama era?

Jobs:
Again, regular readers of “The Fact Checker” may remember that it gave Trumpet 4 Pinocchios for claiming that he created 1 million jobs just six months into his presidency. The claim was a departure from how other presidents have spoken about job creation. Most give credit to Americans, the economy, or businesses. But Trump takes the credit for himself. “I’ve created over a million jobs since I’m president,” he bragged in August, while giving remarks about revitalizing U.S. infrastructure.

Regarding all of the Carrier jobs that Trumpet claims to have saved was very short-lived. Most of them still went out of the country. The same holds for the Ford jobs he claims to have stopped from leaving the country. In fact, if he’s so gung-ho about bringing jobs back to America, why won’t he stop getting his Trump-branded products made overseas? Can you say, “hypocrite?”

Has President Trumpet created 1 million jobs, on his own? President Trump has a tendency to say he is responsible for job growth, rather than U.S. businesses or the American economy, itself. He’s so desperate for attention and glory that he makes-up &/or misuses figures to justify his ridiculous claims.

Since February, after Trumpet took office, the economy has gained nearly 1.7 million jobs, according to preliminary data on ‘non-farm payroll’ for November. But once again, the job gains are part of a multi-year trend that started in 2010. Bear in mind, Obama was still in office in 2010.

Trumpet has repeatedly boasted that the “unemployment rate is at a 17-year low,” citing the standard unemployment rate from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which hovers around 4.4 percent in 2017. His new-found excitement for the BLS numbers represents a considerable flip-flop for Trump, who claimed the BLS-furnished, unemployment rate was “nonsense” and “fake news” long before his inauguration.

In fact, during the election campaign, Trumpet called the unemployment figure “fake” or ”fake news” as many as 19 times before he inherited the low unemployment numbers from Obama. Since 2011, the unemployment rate has steadily declined from a high of 9.6 percent following the Great Recession. It was 4.8 percent in January, when Trumpet took the oath of office, and it was 4.1 percent in the December employment report. down to 4.8 percent, or a drop of 50%. Trumpet’s figures are actually 4.8% down to 4.1%, or a drop of 50%. is a LOT more than 0.7%. But, I’m not trying to make the figures say what they can’t say; and, that is, that Trumpet is responsible for a new low in unemployment. Anyone who tries to sell that is trying to sell a boat-load of B.S.!

Let’s also look at another measure of unemployment: The U-6 unemployment rate, which covers people who have given up looking for a job because of poor economic conditions or people who are employed part-time because they can’t find work in their desired field. Some economists argue the official unemployment rate, which measures people who are actively looking for work, is too narrow. The U-6 figure, in contrast, covers a broader swath of workers.

Another indicator of economic health is the employment to population ratio for people in their prime working years. This ratio measures the number of people employed as a share of the population. By narrowing in on people ages 25 to 54 we avoid counting older people who have retired or young people who aren’t working because they are still in school. In 2017, the employment to population ratio reached 78.5 percent. It’s been on an upward trend since 2011.

The stock market:
Just one month after taking office, Trumpet bragged about the stock market. During a news conference on Feb. 2, he claimed, “the stock market has hit record numbers.” It’s been pointed out before that this talking point is a HUGE flip-flop for Trumpet, who dismissed stock-market performance under Obama as a “big, fat bubble” ready to pop. (The U.S. stock market had been rising steadily since March 2009, shortly after Obama took office.)

Trumpet routinely cites numbers from the Dow Jones industrial average, a collection of 30 U.S. “blue-chip” companies. Much of the recent rise in the Dow can be attributed to a single company: Boeing. Over the course of the year, Boeing’s stock is up 82 percent.

But when looking at a broader index, Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index, it’s clear U.S. stocks haven’t rallied as robustly as their foreign equivalents. Trumpet’s been touting the stock market growth since February, but in November the S&P still lagged behind Japan, Germany and the United Kingdom.

Another one of Trumpet’s frequent economic boasts is about Gross Domestic Product growth. GDP is the broadest measure of an economy. With each quarterly estimate Trumpet brags the GDP has grown at never before seen rates.

“We were at 3.2 last quarter, but we were at 3. And to be at 3 with a 1 point, that would have meant we would have hit 4 or thereabouts. And those are numbers that have not been seen for many years,” he said on Oct. 31 after the release of second quarter numbers. Never mind that most economists think 4 percent growth is unlikely in a “developed economy” — or that quarterly GDP growth has often topped 3 percent during Obama’s presidency.

Poverty:
Trumpet hasn’t made much of a fuss about poverty during the first year of his presidency, but the poverty rate is the lowest it has been in nearly 10 years. For three consecutive years, 2010–2012, the poverty rate held stable at 11.8 percent. But in 2013 the rate began to decline, ending at 9.8 percent in 2016.

Sanders suggests that, “... its outlandish to give Obama credit for the current economy,” claiming that “we can all agree the economy is better under Trump.” The problem is, Trumpet’s economy owes largely to trends started in the Obama era. By almost every economic measure, the upward trends Sanders and Trumpet cite began while Obama was still in office.

I’ve said it before, anyone who gives sole credit to a president for economic gains should receive an automatic, 2 Pinocchios; and both, Trumpet’s and Sanders’ claims certainly fit the bill.

I don’t know what kind of economist you are, but with all of my years in helping states and local communities land new companies, the process takes far longer than the 6-9 months you claim. It can take longer than that for the states and communities to negotiate an incentive package to present to the prospective employer for their consideration. Site selection and acquisition can take just as long, too. Next, comes the placement of the utilities and roads. Then, you have the construction period of the factility(s), itself/themselves.

And, even before all of that occured, the prospective company wil have spent several months, collecting the necessary ROÍ figures and projectedl sales statistics on to see if they’re justified to even consider an expansion or build a new facility.

So, if you want me to believe that it only takes 6-9 months for a project to go from inception to completion, you’re far more crazy than I thought you are. I hope you don’t have a professional economist license. If so, you’re a fraud.
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You really show you are full of it with your constant comments about trumpet. I know of no trumpet, bugle or any other instrument that effects out economy. So, I have to believe from the get go that your are just shoveling $hit by the huge shovel full. Maybe if you grew up, we might put more faith in anything you write, Until then, it is still grade school and this is an adult site.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:00:42   #
proud republican wrote:
Do they have male robots???
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Yes. But they don't move.
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Dec 14, 2017 17:50:18   #
All for the baker. I'd close the B & B before I'd do that. I'd pull my kids from that school and sue the bastards.
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Dec 14, 2017 17:44:15   #
Wolf counselor wrote:
Female robots are in big demand now.

If you noticed, all of these women making accusations are old and menopausal.

I'm sure glad I have a great wife already.


Hows this for female robots. http://sinthetics.com/about/ There are many more sites and these dolls are not only idealistic, but functional. And they don't complain or accuse or even talk and will do whatever you want. Can even double for those express lanes on highways that require two people. And they feel amazingly real. No, I don't have one or want one. I prefer the real thing. Even with the false accusations I've had to face. A real woman wants a real man. I think I fulfill that need. But some women just don't get it.
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Dec 14, 2017 17:34:31   #
proud republican wrote:
I am a woman and im mad right now!!!......So if i meet a man one day and i want to have hanky panky with him should i worry that he wont touch me,because he is going to be afraid to touch me????? Thanks to these metoo groups men may never touch another female again, thus stopping having families, thus civilization stops and we will forever parish .........Maybe i will go back to my ex....
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Hopefully it will be a hands on experience for you.
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Dec 14, 2017 17:32:23   #
JFlorio wrote:
I have often wondered whom the left on OPP considers a far right extremest. I doubt if we will get a substantive answer.


Probably anyone who disagrees with anything they post. Thankfully, I disagree with almost everything they post. But I don't consider myself a right extremist.
Just someone who believes in common sense and freedom. Something they can't understand.
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Dec 14, 2017 16:52:27   #
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/max-boot-apos-deep-deep-171858181.html

Wrong again. The deep sickness is in the Democrat party. From personal disgusting actions, to destructive policies, to dirty tricks, to the corruption left within the various governments branches from the last eight years.
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Dec 14, 2017 16:49:16   #
It is hard to think of someone with a bigger ego then President Trump, But there it is and never stops. The unmentionable one is still bragging about the longest streak of sustained growth in our history. But it is also the slowest and weakest growth rate in our history.
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Dec 14, 2017 16:38:51   #
It is just to bad that President Trump is so bad for the economy.
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Dec 14, 2017 14:33:01   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
So the lord is idly watching while thousands of innocent children at this moment are starving to death or being raped!


Hey, we can't arrest all of the Progressives.
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