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Jun 18, 2015 11:19:53   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
You actually have provided unequivocable proof of your lunacy and inability to comprehend information.... because I never claimed "security" as a reason..


I claimed that you are too stupid to even understand that what you provided us, rebutted your version of the stories you tried but failed to fool people with.


You're a fake and phony,,,,, and you are the one lying here,,,, several people more educated than you (which admittedly isnt a high bar) have made that point...

You just dont know what you are talking about.... I shouldnt have to explain "your side" to you....
You actually have provided unequivocable proof of ... (show quote)


If security is not the reason you don't provide evidence of your claims about your education, what is the reason?

When your rebuttals have degenerated into nothing but insults, that's a sure sign you've lost the debate.
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Jun 18, 2015 11:12:22   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
Its even easier,,, apparently,,, for the easily influenced and ignorant,,, to be taken advantage of,,, by charlatans, conspiracy theorists, and other fools...... take your pick of which fool you are more comfortable being,, but your confusion and misinformation, do not influence the reality and science.

You have been presented the proof,,, you just arent capable of understanding it,,,, much less recognizing where you were led astray,,,,

Not my job to fix the gaps in your education and/or intelligence.... you asked I told.... if you dont believe it, it doesnt change the facts of the matter....... you are just wrong.
Its even easier,,, apparently,,, for the easily in... (show quote)


To prove me wrong, explain to readers the physics of what is going on here:

Keep in mind, those particles you see being propelled outwards hundreds of feet are sections of heavy steel columns. The pyroclastic flows visible are the concrete from the floors being pulverized by powerful explosions.

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Jun 18, 2015 11:10:43   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
You actually have provided unequivocable proof of your lunacy and inability to comprehend information.... because I never claimed "security" as a reason..


I claimed that you are too stupid to even understand that what you provided us, rebutted your version of the stories you tried but failed to fool people with.


You're a fake and phony,,,,, and you are the one lying here,,,, several people more educated than you (which admittedly isnt a high bar) have made that point...

You just dont know what you are talking about.... I shouldnt have to explain "your side" to you....
You actually have provided unequivocable proof of ... (show quote)


Still holding back those sources?

Admit it. You don't have them.
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Jun 18, 2015 11:08:28   #
Read about Zionist control of CFR: http://www.rense.com/general48/captiv.htm
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Jun 18, 2015 10:58:09   #
BigMike wrote:
You make excuses for the Nazis! When I see you make excuses for the "Zionists" (your definition of which seems to be anyone Jewish with money or authority, and anyone connected with them, and anyone who doesn't hate them with the same passion you do) I'll believe you're more than a bigoted little hate monster! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Your Hasbarat version of my definition of Zionism is totally false.
My definition of Zionism is that it is a political movement which was founded by warmongering over the past century, manipulating the U.S. into two world wars and the wars in the Middle East.

The vast Hasbara propaganda network in the U.S. has most Americans fooled. But the rest of the world, not so much. Out of 196 countries in the world, polls show Israel to be ranked 4th from last in world respect--only a few percentage points above North Korea.
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Jun 18, 2015 10:11:23   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
I already gave them to you pages and pages ago,,,,, and explained why you are not smart enough to have gotten anything out of them....as well as how you mis-understand, what you did read.

Anything else,,,,,, nimrod.


That's the standard Hasbarat excuse when asked for sources.
What that tells readers is--that you have no sources.
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Jun 18, 2015 10:08:53   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
See my "credentials" which make you look like the fool you actually are.........

"Naval and Air Force Aircraft Accident Investigation Schools"


Looks like I win again,,, but besting a fool like you is no "feat"


It's so easy to lie on an internet forum. You can claim you can't show proof for security reasons.

Just like our government when asked to prove their claims about 9/11.
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Jun 18, 2015 10:06:06   #
emarine wrote:
Did I not mention that you seem to label people... Did all Jews not start from the same place and spread out like every other people except those stuck on small islands without a boat? I dont ask Jews what flavor they are, I tend to accept them all the same until there is a reason not to.... maybe you should try this approach with people... you may make more friends instead of enemy's ... So tell us in your twisted view what's up with the different flavor Jew's....For example, Ashkenazic Jews eat latkes (potato pancakes) to celebrate Chanukkah; Sephardic Jews eat sufganiot (jelly doughnuts)..... Now its your turn to teach which Jew to hate and why....putz
Did I not mention that you seem to label people...... (show quote)


As is the Hasbarat mantra, you continue to say I hate Jews. I have never said that or even implied it. Zionism, which is the modern day equivalent of Nazism is what I am exposing. You Zionists have no defense for Zionism so you constantly attempt to label me a hater. I suspect intelligent readers are getting wise to your tactics.
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Jun 18, 2015 10:00:09   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
I didnt "lie",, about the 75 fire, I actually read the site you provided,,, and it says that clearly.. apparently you dont read your own shiite either, but after reading some of your crap, I completely understand that..


2. I went to the AF and Naval Safety Center schools for aircraft accident investigations early in my career,,,, your facts and "physics" are wrong about bodies during impact and subsequent fires... as well as the mechanics and physics of fuel/air explosions (which happen first) and the ensuing fires.....


3. I was also a pilot of helicopters and fixed wing aircraft,,,, there is no such thing as a homing device for a 767,,,, that is just another piece of shiite you pulled out of your colon,,, where your head and brains apparently reside...

you're just wrong dude,,,, your science is crap, your speculation worse, and your explanations defy all aircraft accident data and experience....

Personally, I thought your were just dumb,,, now, you have removed all doubt.
I didnt "lie",, about the 75 fire, I act... (show quote)


(1) The article also clearly states that the fire spread from the 11th to the 17th floor and even spread downward to the 9th floor. But this is the really revealing fact from the article:
"That the 1975 fire was more intense than the 9/11 fires is evident from the fact that it caused the 11th floor east side windows to break and flames could be seen pouring from these broken windows. This indicates a temperature greater than 700°C. In the 9/11 fires the windows were not broken by the heat (only by the aircraft impact) indicating a temperature below 700°C."

(2) You give no sources to back up your claims here.

(3) Again you give no sources for your claims.
Did you know that Dov Zakheim, dual Israeli/U.S. citizen, who was chief financial officer at the Pentagon during 9/11 had formerly been a top executive at Systems Planning Corporation which supplied systems for remote-controlling multiple airliners from one location?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC1zue3anto
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Jun 18, 2015 09:44:24   #
EconomistDon wrote:
I'm sooooo sorry Payne. When I hit "quote reply" your jpg. comments don't come through. So I have to type them as accurately as I can remember, before I respond. If you want your comments to come through accurately, you might try typing them like the rest of us do. And ditch the insulting pictures. Or is your goal to be the lowest of the low-lifes on this site? You might actually enjoy an honest conversation rather than constantly slinging insulting pictures. Grow up and join the adults!
I'm sooooo sorry Payne. When I hit "quote re... (show quote)


Are insulting pictures more insulting than the words used by you Hasbarats?
I certainly hope so.
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Jun 18, 2015 09:39:58   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
Oh, did you overlook the rebuttal??? Or do you just not read well,,, in addition to not comprehending at all?

My conjecture was that you are just too stupid,, seems I was right.

You have been repeatedly rebutted,,,, you arent smart enough to even understand the science you have butchered..... just a liberal dummy,,,


See my rebuttal of your extremely superficial rebuttal.
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Jun 18, 2015 09:33:15   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
Yes, I can

1. "What the videos show about the burning fuel is that most of it burned up in the air outside the Towers not inside the towers."

Only one plane took a skewed hit on the towers,,, the other planes entire fuel load went "in" the bldg" ,,,,, and obviously you have never seen a "fuel and air" explosions effects and BDA.... until the WTC and you found it "unbelievable".... and it kind of is, but it is also,, decidedly "real"..... bldgs blow up and collapse with incredible force and momentum dissolves rocks, steel, and even humans...

2. "What force is powerful enough to reduce human bodies to fragments"..... A jet moving over 500 kts,,, its called "kinetic" force.. its a physics thing.

3. The 75 fire was mainly on one floor,,, the 11th... and the impact of the aircraft was on or near the 98th,,, strangely enough, the bldgs crumbled,,, right where the planes went in,,,,, or as you say,,,, where the explosives had to be,,,,, however, if that were the case, the aircraft would have destroyed the explosives too.. or are you trying to tell me that the novice pilots precisely hit the target???

I can rebut everything you believe, just like I can actually rebut people who think the earth is flat and 6000 yrs old..... but I cannot change the beliefs of a fool...
Yes, I can br br 1. "What the videos show ab... (show quote)


Your claims rebutted:

(1) See photo below to note how much of the Jet fuel burned up outside the Towers.

(2) If you watch the videos of the planes hitting the towers, any passengers would have been fried crisp in the huge fireballs outside the buildings, not turned into tiny bone fragments which only powerful explosives can accomplish.

(3) Why do you lie and say the 1975 North Tower fire was mainly on one floor? The fire burned through 6 floors and burned for twice as long as on 9/11.
The airliners on 9/11 were remote-controlled. Homing devices could have been installed in the Towers which would signal the control devices where to bring the airliners into the buildings.
Since the perpetrators knew where the planes were going to hit, they installed the explosives accordingly.

Most of the jet fuel burned up in the air


The force of gravity in a collapse is straight down--not horizontal.


When the explosives started to go off, the top section started to fall off to one side. Explosives in that section caused it to disentegrate before it could fall off to one side.

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Jun 18, 2015 08:56:00   #
Ve'hoe wrote:
What rebuttal will correct idiocy,,, fear and superstition?

You already have access to the data rebutting your "opinions",,, but are too stupid or fearful to accept it,,, that is called "superstition" and it is a hallmark of ignorant and deluded fools...


Still no rebuttal, but I expected that. Hasbara probably doesn't pay Hasbarats enough to hire smart propagandists.
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Jun 18, 2015 08:53:12   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Oh Lord, WTC7 again. I already posted video and photos of tower debris hitting WTC7 and the resulting damage and fire. But, WTF, you are going to continue dancing the conspiracy shuffle no matter what.

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories


But isn't it revealing that you show no photographs of the debris damage that you claim brought WTC7 down?

The photo below shows the only damage WTC7 sustained from the fall of the Towers. Does anyone think that could cause WTC7 to fall at free-fall speed into its own footprint?


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Jun 18, 2015 08:27:37   #
BigMike wrote:
No...impossible. Only a seriously mentally ill person could buy the rabid propogandist idiocy you just posted. Typhoid indeed! :roll:


Bad reading comprehension, little Mikey.

It was "typhus" which killed the Jews in the concentration camps, not "typhoid." The Nazis used Zyklon-B gas to delouse the Jewish laborers' clothes in order to prevent them from contracting the disease.
Toward the end of the war, some food supplies were cut off by allied and Russian advances. Nazi food supplies were also running low and the food available was sent to the soldiers at the front.
That's why a lot of Jews starved in the camps.

The Holocaust would more accurately be named the "Holodomor"

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