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Jun 16, 2015 10:52:19   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
This folks, is what these conspiracy nut bags believe in.

Judging conspiracy theories on their virtues can be fraught with peril. For starters, they're typically—and often purposely—vague debates, relying more on emotion than logic. They often use ad hominem reasoning and accusatory statements to make their cases, while not offering believable counter arguments. Refuting them gets you labeled as nothing more than a co-conspirator shilling for (pick one) Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Government, or Big Hollywood.

Here are some conspiracy these nuts believe in:

1. The Obama administration has stockpiled 30,000 guillotines. The Obama administration is supposedly up to some really horrible things using the President’s executive powers. One, which began circulating last year is starting to compete with the old FEMA concentration camp conspiracy, which began around 2009.

In one versions of this conspiracy, Congress approved the secret stockpiling of guillotines in 2013. Another, which is a bit more complex, says the Obama administration acquired the guillotines “for governmental purposes” through a series of executive orders. Infowars.com contributor Jim Garrow has been peddling a hybrid version of this story, conflating Obamacare, FEMA, birtherism, and Sharia law to paint a genocidal, New World Order dystopia.

With the spate of bungled death-row executions, and a federal judge pining over the good ‘ol days of firing squads and beheadings, the rumor continues to circulate on social media and conspiracy sites.

While the mythbusting site Snopes says this rumor first began to circulate during the Bush administration, it points to the anti-Muslim conspiracy theory website, Sharia Unveiled, as one of the more recent sources of this wild rumor.

“As usual with such types of rumors, none of those sites offered any evidence documenting that Congress had approved the purchase of guillotines, that the U.S. government had actually bought tens of thousands of those instruments, or that such machines were stored in stockpiles in Georgia and Montana, as claimed — all that information was simply repetition of rumor asserted as fact (i.e., 'information we received') with no proof whatsoever behind it,” says Snopes.

But this theory is nothing to lose your head over. The “Chanel” guillotine provided as visual proof by Sharia Unveiled is actually a tongue-in-cheek creation by artist Tom Sachs, which was part of a 1988 art show called “Creativity is the Enemy.” There has never been a congressional resolution, law, or executive order from the government to stockpile guillotines.

2. The feds can steal the contents of all safe deposit boxes. Over the past year, dozens of investment and conspiracy websites have claimed that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banks they can raid the contents of safe deposit boxes without warrant and confiscate any valuables they find. Again, like many conspiracy theories, this one has many versions, including one that says the executive order was originally given in 1933 by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Back in ‘33, President Roosevelt did sign an executive order, famously known as Executive Order 6102, that forbade the “hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States.” In essence, it made it a crime for individuals, corporations, and organizations to possess monetary gold.

The rationale behind this order was that the hoarding of gold was damaging the prospects of an economic recovery from the Great Depression. It did, however, allow for the possession of small amounts of gold currency, and offered compensation to those who turned over their gold to the Federal Reserve. Dentists, jewelers and craftsmen who worked in gold were given some exemptions. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation repealing the essence of Executive Order 6102.

That’s where the truth behind the conspiracy ends. Since at least the mid-1990s, it's been widely circulated that Roosevelt signed another executive order, only five days after taking office, ordering all the safe deposit boxes in the U.S. to be seized and searched for gold by the Internal Revenue Service. The mass raid of safe deposit boxes never occurred.

The first specific reference to this hoax was in the 1996 book After the Crash, Life In the New Great Depression. Later iterations of the conspiracy theory included silver, diamonds and bonds. More recently, chain mails and websites have circulated the claim that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banking institutions that “under the Patriot Act” it reserves the right to seize the contents of vaulted safe deposit boxes in the event of martial law—including the seizure of guns!

There is no such provision under the Patriot Act, and no banks have come forward with evidence that Homeland Security has issued such an ominous warning.

3. The government and medical industry are hiding a cure for cancer. More than a third of Americans believe that the U.S. government just wants us all to get sick and die, according a recent survey by the University of Chicago. When asked if they believe the Food and Drug Administration purposely conceals information on natural, alternative treatments for cancer, 37% said yes. Fewer respondents said they disagreed with this conspiracy theory.

This meme has been circulating for decades, and is arguably one of the oldest, strongest and most cynical of government conspiracy theories. The biggest reason it has legs is probably the theme that greed is behind it all. It’s widely held that cancer is a cash cow for doctors, Big Pharma and the government. When people are sick and dying of cancer, there’s money to be made.

But when you consider that cancer is actually a large and complex assortment of diseases, it’s very doubtful, according to researchers, that there’s one cure-all for the entire array.

As Steven Novella, the publisher of Science-Based Medicine points out, the claim that Big Pharma has too much to lose if a single cure for cancer is foundis a practical fallacy. He says it would take $100 million in research or more to prove a drug was a cure for just one type of cancer, let alone all types.

“Why would a pharmaceutical company spend that kind of research money on a drug they know they have no intention of marketing, just so that they can suppress it?” he writes. “Also—where would they do such research? How could they get past all the regulatory hurdles to perform human research without revealing what they are doing?”

How the discovery of such a cure could be kept from the public also doesn’t seem plausible, according to Novella. He notes the medical community is massive and diverse, with many contrasting viewpoints and goals.

“Often those who claim that ‘they’ are hiding a cure for cancer have only a vague notion of who ‘they’ are,” he writes. “The medical establishment is composed of universities, professional organizations, journals, regulatory agencies, researchers, funding agencies, and countless individuals— all with differing incentives and perspectives. The idea that they would all be in on a massive conspiracy to hide perhaps the greatest cure known to mankind is beyond absurd.”

​4. The feds blanketed the South with fake, plastic snow. After uncharacteristically Arctic-like conditions in the South early this year, several websites and YouTube videos pushed a conspiracy theory that the white stuff falling from the sky was not snow, but a plastic impostor that was engineered by the federal government for nefarious reasons that were never explained.

A spate of videos cropped up in January and February showing people unsuccessfully trying to melt snow with butane lighters. The snow doesn’t melt, but becomes a gas with the remaining solid becoming tinged with black. In some of the videos, the video bloggers claim the snow gives off a toxic smell. They insist it’s not real snow, but a chemical geo-engineered by the government and dumped on southern states.


Except it wasn’t. Meteorologist Mike Stone, who works for CBS affiliate WTVR, explainedthat what the video bloggers reported was nothing unusual.

“When you heat something like this, it goes from a solid to a gas. It’s called sublimation. It doesn’t go from a solid to a liquid, i.e. melting,” he said.

Meanwhile, other YouTube users posted their own videos debunking the fake snow reports.

“Bottom line, if you don’t want to waste five minutes watching this video, butane burns dirty. The smell is not from the snow, the black on the snow is not because it’s plastic; it’s because of the butane,” said one video blogger.

Many of the videos attempting to expose the snow conspiracy have either been taken down or made private since we first reported this in February, but geo-engineering conspiracy sites still promote the myth.

5. Lizard people. According to a survey one in 25 people believe the world is run by lizard people. 12 million Americans believe it. The theory goes that cleverly disguised reptilian aliens travelled to Earth thousands of years ago to infiltrate our highest echelons of government. There are techno music-laden YouTube videos with news anchors with reptilian eyes to prove it. Only not.
To augment human eyes on films there are certain methods including speeding up, zooming in and editing clips to achieve a menacing lizard slither of an eye.

6. Adam and Eve came from space . This one is straight out of the Twilight Zone: Adam and Eve were extraterrestrials who travelled to Earth aboard a space ark piloted by Noah. Conspiracy theorists believe the government has been covering it up but through the Freedom of Information Act they were able to uncover documents that allegedly reveal that a flying saucer crashed into Mount Ararat in Turkey where the ark is traditionally believed to have come from.

The likelihood of Noah’s intergalactic ark is a long shot, but the idea of panspermia (the idea our planet’s original single-celled organisms have extraterrestrial origins) is still being studied.

7. The Moon does not exist. There are some who believe the Moon landings were fake and then there are those who believe the Moon doesn’t exist at all. Instead they claim the Moon is just a convincing hologram. Naturally there is a dodgy YouTube clip to prove this, which shows a power glitch in the Moon’s artificial electrical system.
Yes, and it’s made out of cheese and we’re all just puppets in a big virtual world.

8. Flight MH17 Is Actually MH370. The insanity of this idea pales, however, in comparison to this other theory purported by Russia’s News 2.

According to The New Republic, the Russian public is being told that MH17 wasn’t filled with live people but with corpses, wasn’t flown by a human being but by autopilot and wasn’t blown up by a surface-to-air missile but was packed with a bomb.

This theory also states that MH17 is actually MH370, the plane that supposedly sank somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

According to these claims, the plane was actually taken to Diego-Garcia, an American naval base on a tiny island in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Then it was taken to Holland and programmed by the US to fly and explode over the People’s Republic of Donetsk, framing the Ukrainian separatists.

Russian television has been pushing the conspiracy by dehumanizing the victims, speculating that their Facebooks were all mysteriously created on the same day and even that their passports were tossed in to the wreckage after the crash.

These reports make it a point never to show the victims’ grieving families either.

The conspiracy theory is obviously ludicrous but that doesn’t mean much in a country as censored as Russia, where it’s basically illegal to condemn the government on TV and the only widely-available news is what the Putin regime wants the people to hear.

There are more, but these should keep these conspiracy nut bags busy for awhile.

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Jun 16, 2015 10:57:23   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Are you implying they're not all true?

Reply
Jun 16, 2015 11:09:02   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
I know much of which you have described here is put in place by the very entities in which they speak out about.

It must simply be that these Conspiracy Theories are all fake. After all we have seen by this administration and others before it, our government is not only ALWAYS truthful but has a solid need for transparency.

It is must just be utter coincidence that much of what they have said is coming true before our very eyes.
Much of which can be hard to see when only looking through one eye, whether it be right or left.

You of all people should know what has been done throughout this administration alone would be impossible w/ out legislation pit in place by previous administrations.

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Jun 16, 2015 11:15:44   #
Sicilianthing
 
JMHO wrote:
This folks, is what these conspiracy nut bags believe in.

Judging conspiracy theories on their virtues can be fraught with peril. For starters, they're typically—and often purposely—vague debates, relying more on emotion than logic. They often use ad hominem reasoning and accusatory statements to make their cases, while not offering believable counter arguments. Refuting them gets you labeled as nothing more than a co-conspirator shilling for (pick one) Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Government, or Big Hollywood.

Here are some conspiracy these nuts believe in:

1. The Obama administration has stockpiled 30,000 guillotines. The Obama administration is supposedly up to some really horrible things using the President’s executive powers. One, which began circulating last year is starting to compete with the old FEMA concentration camp conspiracy, which began around 2009.

In one versions of this conspiracy, Congress approved the secret stockpiling of guillotines in 2013. Another, which is a bit more complex, says the Obama administration acquired the guillotines “for governmental purposes” through a series of executive orders. Infowars.com contributor Jim Garrow has been peddling a hybrid version of this story, conflating Obamacare, FEMA, birtherism, and Sharia law to paint a genocidal, New World Order dystopia.

With the spate of bungled death-row executions, and a federal judge pining over the good ‘ol days of firing squads and beheadings, the rumor continues to circulate on social media and conspiracy sites.

While the mythbusting site Snopes says this rumor first began to circulate during the Bush administration, it points to the anti-Muslim conspiracy theory website, Sharia Unveiled, as one of the more recent sources of this wild rumor.

“As usual with such types of rumors, none of those sites offered any evidence documenting that Congress had approved the purchase of guillotines, that the U.S. government had actually bought tens of thousands of those instruments, or that such machines were stored in stockpiles in Georgia and Montana, as claimed — all that information was simply repetition of rumor asserted as fact (i.e., 'information we received') with no proof whatsoever behind it,” says Snopes.

But this theory is nothing to lose your head over. The “Chanel” guillotine provided as visual proof by Sharia Unveiled is actually a tongue-in-cheek creation by artist Tom Sachs, which was part of a 1988 art show called “Creativity is the Enemy.” There has never been a congressional resolution, law, or executive order from the government to stockpile guillotines.

2. The feds can steal the contents of all safe deposit boxes. Over the past year, dozens of investment and conspiracy websites have claimed that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banks they can raid the contents of safe deposit boxes without warrant and confiscate any valuables they find. Again, like many conspiracy theories, this one has many versions, including one that says the executive order was originally given in 1933 by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Back in ‘33, President Roosevelt did sign an executive order, famously known as Executive Order 6102, that forbade the “hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States.” In essence, it made it a crime for individuals, corporations, and organizations to possess monetary gold.

The rationale behind this order was that the hoarding of gold was damaging the prospects of an economic recovery from the Great Depression. It did, however, allow for the possession of small amounts of gold currency, and offered compensation to those who turned over their gold to the Federal Reserve. Dentists, jewelers and craftsmen who worked in gold were given some exemptions. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation repealing the essence of Executive Order 6102.

That’s where the truth behind the conspiracy ends. Since at least the mid-1990s, it's been widely circulated that Roosevelt signed another executive order, only five days after taking office, ordering all the safe deposit boxes in the U.S. to be seized and searched for gold by the Internal Revenue Service. The mass raid of safe deposit boxes never occurred.

The first specific reference to this hoax was in the 1996 book After the Crash, Life In the New Great Depression. Later iterations of the conspiracy theory included silver, diamonds and bonds. More recently, chain mails and websites have circulated the claim that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banking institutions that “under the Patriot Act” it reserves the right to seize the contents of vaulted safe deposit boxes in the event of martial law—including the seizure of guns!

There is no such provision under the Patriot Act, and no banks have come forward with evidence that Homeland Security has issued such an ominous warning.

3. The government and medical industry are hiding a cure for cancer. More than a third of Americans believe that the U.S. government just wants us all to get sick and die, according a recent survey by the University of Chicago. When asked if they believe the Food and Drug Administration purposely conceals information on natural, alternative treatments for cancer, 37% said yes. Fewer respondents said they disagreed with this conspiracy theory.

This meme has been circulating for decades, and is arguably one of the oldest, strongest and most cynical of government conspiracy theories. The biggest reason it has legs is probably the theme that greed is behind it all. It’s widely held that cancer is a cash cow for doctors, Big Pharma and the government. When people are sick and dying of cancer, there’s money to be made.

But when you consider that cancer is actually a large and complex assortment of diseases, it’s very doubtful, according to researchers, that there’s one cure-all for the entire array.

As Steven Novella, the publisher of Science-Based Medicine points out, the claim that Big Pharma has too much to lose if a single cure for cancer is foundis a practical fallacy. He says it would take $100 million in research or more to prove a drug was a cure for just one type of cancer, let alone all types.

“Why would a pharmaceutical company spend that kind of research money on a drug they know they have no intention of marketing, just so that they can suppress it?” he writes. “Also—where would they do such research? How could they get past all the regulatory hurdles to perform human research without revealing what they are doing?”

How the discovery of such a cure could be kept from the public also doesn’t seem plausible, according to Novella. He notes the medical community is massive and diverse, with many contrasting viewpoints and goals.

“Often those who claim that ‘they’ are hiding a cure for cancer have only a vague notion of who ‘they’ are,” he writes. “The medical establishment is composed of universities, professional organizations, journals, regulatory agencies, researchers, funding agencies, and countless individuals— all with differing incentives and perspectives. The idea that they would all be in on a massive conspiracy to hide perhaps the greatest cure known to mankind is beyond absurd.”

​4. The feds blanketed the South with fake, plastic snow. After uncharacteristically Arctic-like conditions in the South early this year, several websites and YouTube videos pushed a conspiracy theory that the white stuff falling from the sky was not snow, but a plastic impostor that was engineered by the federal government for nefarious reasons that were never explained.

A spate of videos cropped up in January and February showing people unsuccessfully trying to melt snow with butane lighters. The snow doesn’t melt, but becomes a gas with the remaining solid becoming tinged with black. In some of the videos, the video bloggers claim the snow gives off a toxic smell. They insist it’s not real snow, but a chemical geo-engineered by the government and dumped on southern states.


Except it wasn’t. Meteorologist Mike Stone, who works for CBS affiliate WTVR, explainedthat what the video bloggers reported was nothing unusual.

“When you heat something like this, it goes from a solid to a gas. It’s called sublimation. It doesn’t go from a solid to a liquid, i.e. melting,” he said.

Meanwhile, other YouTube users posted their own videos debunking the fake snow reports.

“Bottom line, if you don’t want to waste five minutes watching this video, butane burns dirty. The smell is not from the snow, the black on the snow is not because it’s plastic; it’s because of the butane,” said one video blogger.

Many of the videos attempting to expose the snow conspiracy have either been taken down or made private since we first reported this in February, but geo-engineering conspiracy sites still promote the myth.

5. Lizard people. According to a survey one in 25 people believe the world is run by lizard people. 12 million Americans believe it. The theory goes that cleverly disguised reptilian aliens travelled to Earth thousands of years ago to infiltrate our highest echelons of government. There are techno music-laden YouTube videos with news anchors with reptilian eyes to prove it. Only not.
To augment human eyes on films there are certain methods including speeding up, zooming in and editing clips to achieve a menacing lizard slither of an eye.

6. Adam and Eve came from space . This one is straight out of the Twilight Zone: Adam and Eve were extraterrestrials who travelled to Earth aboard a space ark piloted by Noah. Conspiracy theorists believe the government has been covering it up but through the Freedom of Information Act they were able to uncover documents that allegedly reveal that a flying saucer crashed into Mount Ararat in Turkey where the ark is traditionally believed to have come from.

The likelihood of Noah’s intergalactic ark is a long shot, but the idea of panspermia (the idea our planet’s original single-celled organisms have extraterrestrial origins) is still being studied.

7. The Moon does not exist. There are some who believe the Moon landings were fake and then there are those who believe the Moon doesn’t exist at all. Instead they claim the Moon is just a convincing hologram. Naturally there is a dodgy YouTube clip to prove this, which shows a power glitch in the Moon’s artificial electrical system.
Yes, and it’s made out of cheese and we’re all just puppets in a big virtual world.

8. Flight MH17 Is Actually MH370. The insanity of this idea pales, however, in comparison to this other theory purported by Russia’s News 2.

According to The New Republic, the Russian public is being told that MH17 wasn’t filled with live people but with corpses, wasn’t flown by a human being but by autopilot and wasn’t blown up by a surface-to-air missile but was packed with a bomb.

This theory also states that MH17 is actually MH370, the plane that supposedly sank somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

According to these claims, the plane was actually taken to Diego-Garcia, an American naval base on a tiny island in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Then it was taken to Holland and programmed by the US to fly and explode over the People’s Republic of Donetsk, framing the Ukrainian separatists.

Russian television has been pushing the conspiracy by dehumanizing the victims, speculating that their Facebooks were all mysteriously created on the same day and even that their passports were tossed in to the wreckage after the crash.

These reports make it a point never to show the victims’ grieving families either.

The conspiracy theory is obviously ludicrous but that doesn’t mean much in a country as censored as Russia, where it’s basically illegal to condemn the government on TV and the only widely-available news is what the Putin regime wants the people to hear.

There are more, but these should keep these conspiracy nut bags busy for awhile.
This folks, is what these conspiracy nut bags beli... (show quote)


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You are truly off hinge

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Jun 16, 2015 11:25:45   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
Super Dave wrote:
Are you implying they're not all true?


:shock: Does that go for the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and Santa Claus as well??!!?? Nooooooo.....

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Jun 16, 2015 11:43:25   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Who made this list up for you.
Making half truths and out right BS is how the dis-information powers operate.
Here is the "manual" in full as distributed by the DoD.
It's real!
*FM 3-19.40 (FM 19-40)
Field Manual Headquarters NO. 3-19.40 Department of the Army Washington. DC. 1August 200.1
Military Police
InternmentlResettlement Operations

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDoQFjAE&url=http%3A%...


JMHO wrote:
This folks, is what these conspiracy nut bags believe in.

Judging conspiracy theories on their virtues can be fraught with peril. For starters, they're typically—and often purposely—vague debates, relying more on emotion than logic. They often use ad hominem reasoning and accusatory statements to make their cases, while not offering believable counter arguments. Refuting them gets you labeled as nothing more than a co-conspirator shilling for (pick one) Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Government, or Big Hollywood.

Here are some conspiracy these nuts believe in:

1. The Obama administration has stockpiled 30,000 guillotines. The Obama administration is supposedly up to some really horrible things using the President’s executive powers. One, which began circulating last year is starting to compete with the old FEMA concentration camp conspiracy, which began around 2009.

In one versions of this conspiracy, Congress approved the secret stockpiling of guillotines in 2013. Another, which is a bit more complex, says the Obama administration acquired the guillotines “for governmental purposes” through a series of executive orders. Infowars.com contributor Jim Garrow has been peddling a hybrid version of this story, conflating Obamacare, FEMA, birtherism, and Sharia law to paint a genocidal, New World Order dystopia.

With the spate of bungled death-row executions, and a federal judge pining over the good ‘ol days of firing squads and beheadings, the rumor continues to circulate on social media and conspiracy sites.

While the mythbusting site Snopes says this rumor first began to circulate during the Bush administration, it points to the anti-Muslim conspiracy theory website, Sharia Unveiled, as one of the more recent sources of this wild rumor.

“As usual with such types of rumors, none of those sites offered any evidence documenting that Congress had approved the purchase of guillotines, that the U.S. government had actually bought tens of thousands of those instruments, or that such machines were stored in stockpiles in Georgia and Montana, as claimed — all that information was simply repetition of rumor asserted as fact (i.e., 'information we received') with no proof whatsoever behind it,” says Snopes.

But this theory is nothing to lose your head over. The “Chanel” guillotine provided as visual proof by Sharia Unveiled is actually a tongue-in-cheek creation by artist Tom Sachs, which was part of a 1988 art show called “Creativity is the Enemy.” There has never been a congressional resolution, law, or executive order from the government to stockpile guillotines.

2. The feds can steal the contents of all safe deposit boxes. Over the past year, dozens of investment and conspiracy websites have claimed that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banks they can raid the contents of safe deposit boxes without warrant and confiscate any valuables they find. Again, like many conspiracy theories, this one has many versions, including one that says the executive order was originally given in 1933 by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Back in ‘33, President Roosevelt did sign an executive order, famously known as Executive Order 6102, that forbade the “hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States.” In essence, it made it a crime for individuals, corporations, and organizations to possess monetary gold.

The rationale behind this order was that the hoarding of gold was damaging the prospects of an economic recovery from the Great Depression. It did, however, allow for the possession of small amounts of gold currency, and offered compensation to those who turned over their gold to the Federal Reserve. Dentists, jewelers and craftsmen who worked in gold were given some exemptions. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation repealing the essence of Executive Order 6102.

That’s where the truth behind the conspiracy ends. Since at least the mid-1990s, it's been widely circulated that Roosevelt signed another executive order, only five days after taking office, ordering all the safe deposit boxes in the U.S. to be seized and searched for gold by the Internal Revenue Service. The mass raid of safe deposit boxes never occurred.

The first specific reference to this hoax was in the 1996 book After the Crash, Life In the New Great Depression. Later iterations of the conspiracy theory included silver, diamonds and bonds. More recently, chain mails and websites have circulated the claim that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banking institutions that “under the Patriot Act” it reserves the right to seize the contents of vaulted safe deposit boxes in the event of martial law—including the seizure of guns!

There is no such provision under the Patriot Act, and no banks have come forward with evidence that Homeland Security has issued such an ominous warning.

3. The government and medical industry are hiding a cure for cancer. More than a third of Americans believe that the U.S. government just wants us all to get sick and die, according a recent survey by the University of Chicago. When asked if they believe the Food and Drug Administration purposely conceals information on natural, alternative treatments for cancer, 37% said yes. Fewer respondents said they disagreed with this conspiracy theory.

This meme has been circulating for decades, and is arguably one of the oldest, strongest and most cynical of government conspiracy theories. The biggest reason it has legs is probably the theme that greed is behind it all. It’s widely held that cancer is a cash cow for doctors, Big Pharma and the government. When people are sick and dying of cancer, there’s money to be made.

But when you consider that cancer is actually a large and complex assortment of diseases, it’s very doubtful, according to researchers, that there’s one cure-all for the entire array.

As Steven Novella, the publisher of Science-Based Medicine points out, the claim that Big Pharma has too much to lose if a single cure for cancer is foundis a practical fallacy. He says it would take $100 million in research or more to prove a drug was a cure for just one type of cancer, let alone all types.

“Why would a pharmaceutical company spend that kind of research money on a drug they know they have no intention of marketing, just so that they can suppress it?” he writes. “Also—where would they do such research? How could they get past all the regulatory hurdles to perform human research without revealing what they are doing?”

How the discovery of such a cure could be kept from the public also doesn’t seem plausible, according to Novella. He notes the medical community is massive and diverse, with many contrasting viewpoints and goals.

“Often those who claim that ‘they’ are hiding a cure for cancer have only a vague notion of who ‘they’ are,” he writes. “The medical establishment is composed of universities, professional organizations, journals, regulatory agencies, researchers, funding agencies, and countless individuals— all with differing incentives and perspectives. The idea that they would all be in on a massive conspiracy to hide perhaps the greatest cure known to mankind is beyond absurd.”

​4. The feds blanketed the South with fake, plastic snow. After uncharacteristically Arctic-like conditions in the South early this year, several websites and YouTube videos pushed a conspiracy theory that the white stuff falling from the sky was not snow, but a plastic impostor that was engineered by the federal government for nefarious reasons that were never explained.

A spate of videos cropped up in January and February showing people unsuccessfully trying to melt snow with butane lighters. The snow doesn’t melt, but becomes a gas with the remaining solid becoming tinged with black. In some of the videos, the video bloggers claim the snow gives off a toxic smell. They insist it’s not real snow, but a chemical geo-engineered by the government and dumped on southern states.


Except it wasn’t. Meteorologist Mike Stone, who works for CBS affiliate WTVR, explainedthat what the video bloggers reported was nothing unusual.

“When you heat something like this, it goes from a solid to a gas. It’s called sublimation. It doesn’t go from a solid to a liquid, i.e. melting,” he said.

Meanwhile, other YouTube users posted their own videos debunking the fake snow reports.

“Bottom line, if you don’t want to waste five minutes watching this video, butane burns dirty. The smell is not from the snow, the black on the snow is not because it’s plastic; it’s because of the butane,” said one video blogger.

Many of the videos attempting to expose the snow conspiracy have either been taken down or made private since we first reported this in February, but geo-engineering conspiracy sites still promote the myth.

5. Lizard people. According to a survey one in 25 people believe the world is run by lizard people. 12 million Americans believe it. The theory goes that cleverly disguised reptilian aliens travelled to Earth thousands of years ago to infiltrate our highest echelons of government. There are techno music-laden YouTube videos with news anchors with reptilian eyes to prove it. Only not.
To augment human eyes on films there are certain methods including speeding up, zooming in and editing clips to achieve a menacing lizard slither of an eye.

6. Adam and Eve came from space . This one is straight out of the Twilight Zone: Adam and Eve were extraterrestrials who travelled to Earth aboard a space ark piloted by Noah. Conspiracy theorists believe the government has been covering it up but through the Freedom of Information Act they were able to uncover documents that allegedly reveal that a flying saucer crashed into Mount Ararat in Turkey where the ark is traditionally believed to have come from.

The likelihood of Noah’s intergalactic ark is a long shot, but the idea of panspermia (the idea our planet’s original single-celled organisms have extraterrestrial origins) is still being studied.

7. The Moon does not exist. There are some who believe the Moon landings were fake and then there are those who believe the Moon doesn’t exist at all. Instead they claim the Moon is just a convincing hologram. Naturally there is a dodgy YouTube clip to prove this, which shows a power glitch in the Moon’s artificial electrical system.
Yes, and it’s made out of cheese and we’re all just puppets in a big virtual world.

8. Flight MH17 Is Actually MH370. The insanity of this idea pales, however, in comparison to this other theory purported by Russia’s News 2.

According to The New Republic, the Russian public is being told that MH17 wasn’t filled with live people but with corpses, wasn’t flown by a human being but by autopilot and wasn’t blown up by a surface-to-air missile but was packed with a bomb.

This theory also states that MH17 is actually MH370, the plane that supposedly sank somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

According to these claims, the plane was actually taken to Diego-Garcia, an American naval base on a tiny island in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Then it was taken to Holland and programmed by the US to fly and explode over the People’s Republic of Donetsk, framing the Ukrainian separatists.

Russian television has been pushing the conspiracy by dehumanizing the victims, speculating that their Facebooks were all mysteriously created on the same day and even that their passports were tossed in to the wreckage after the crash.

These reports make it a point never to show the victims’ grieving families either.

The conspiracy theory is obviously ludicrous but that doesn’t mean much in a country as censored as Russia, where it’s basically illegal to condemn the government on TV and the only widely-available news is what the Putin regime wants the people to hear.

There are more, but these should keep these conspiracy nut bags busy for awhile.
This folks, is what these conspiracy nut bags beli... (show quote)

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Jun 16, 2015 11:54:10   #
trucksterbud
 
Well well, JMHO, you did it again. You who advocate that we should do our research before we post, or to quote you "Just a bunch of left wing conspiracy nutbags". Hate to tell you, that stuff is already "old news" on the conspiracy sites. Ever hear the adage "Conspiracy Theory today, Conspiracy Fact Tomorrow..??" Probably not.

Did you research the fact that there are photos of rail cars in Montana (near WhiteFish) that show the actual railcars with the shackles in them..?? Posted by a concerned citizen from that area. But of course, to you, they are just "Left Wing Conspiracy Nutbags".

And, I can tell your response to my post - 'FU Moron'.. Ya, you're real good at that.

Sorry my dear little squirrel, I'm already ahead of your curve. Done my research on that quite a while back.

As for the confiscation theory, its not theory, its fact. Obama signed an EO that allows the government to claim property rights over virtually EVERYTHING OWNED BY EVERYONE to the corporation known as UNITED STATES INC. Its already FACT, so in your assertion that its conspiracy theory, YOU didn't do YOUR research. (Hmmm, how about that one) I love it when your little squirrel mind bitch-slaps YOU once again.

As for the cure to cancer, my grandad was a country doctor for 62 years. He knew what the cure to cancer was. Cancer is merely a mold that grows in the body. UV light therapy and a mild solution of baking soda (0.05%) injected into the bloodstream totally eliminates cancer. Ya, the global elite don't want this one out. And its the reason a doctor from Lubbock TX lost his license. He brought this out in early 1980's. How about you do your research for a change..?? (there is a doctor in Nogales, MX that cures cancer with a powder made from tree bark of South American trees, I know, I had a friend with cancer go see him and came back, lived 18 more years, after American doctors gave him 6 mos to a year to live.)

Before you rebuke me or post - FU Moron - how about you do YOUR research this time. With your great computer skills and superior intellect, it should be no problem.

And notice I did my best to keep it civil, which I know you won't.

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Jun 16, 2015 12:16:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
jmho; You show how stupid you are, over, and over, and over, and over.
You dig your hole deeper, every time you have no legitimate response.
It has to go beyond stupidity though.
You are bought.
We would reallylike to see an example of your "common sense".
Please, Please, Please!!!
Post some, or at least one of those videos you made for the Communist, turned Fascist, David Horowitz.
JMHO - Will you do that?


trucksterbud wrote:
Well well, JMHO, you did it again. You who advocate that we should do our research before we post, or to quote you "Just a bunch of left wing conspiracy nutbags". Hate to tell you, that stuff is already "old news" on the conspiracy sites. Ever hear the adage "Conspiracy Theory today, Conspiracy Fact Tomorrow..??" Probably not.

Did you research the fact that there are photos of rail cars in Montana (near WhiteFish) that show the actual railcars with the shackles in them..?? Posted by a concerned citizen from that area. But of course, to you, they are just "Left Wing Conspiracy Nutbags".

And, I can tell your response to my post - 'FU Moron'.. Ya, you're real good at that.

Sorry my dear little squirrel, I'm already ahead of your curve. Done my research on that quite a while back.

As for the confiscation theory, its not theory, its fact. Obama signed an EO that allows the government to claim property rights over virtually EVERYTHING OWNED BY EVERYONE to the corporation known as UNITED STATES INC. Its already FACT, so in your assertion that its conspiracy theory, YOU didn't do YOUR research. (Hmmm, how about that one) I love it when your little squirrel mind bitch-slaps YOU once again.

As for the cure to cancer, my grandad was a country doctor for 62 years. He knew what the cure to cancer was. Cancer is merely a mold that grows in the body. UV light therapy and a mild solution of baking soda (0.05%) injected into the bloodstream totally eliminates cancer. Ya, the global elite don't want this one out. And its the reason a doctor from Lubbock TX lost his license. He brought this out in early 1980's. How about you do your research for a change..?? (there is a doctor in Nogales, MX that cures cancer with a powder made from tree bark of South American trees, I know, I had a friend with cancer go see him and came back, lived 18 more years, after American doctors gave him 6 mos to a year to live.)

Before you rebuke me or post - FU Moron - how about you do YOUR research this time. With your great computer skills and superior intellect, it should be no problem.

And notice I did my best to keep it civil, which I know you won't.
Well well, JMHO, you did it again. You who advoca... (show quote)

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Jun 16, 2015 12:17:10   #
Sicilianthing
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Well well, JMHO, you did it again. You who advocate that we should do our research before we post, or to quote you "Just a bunch of left wing conspiracy nutbags". Hate to tell you, that stuff is already "old news" on the conspiracy sites. Ever hear the adage "Conspiracy Theory today, Conspiracy Fact Tomorrow..??" Probably not.

Did you research the fact that there are photos of rail cars in Montana (near WhiteFish) that show the actual railcars with the shackles in them..?? Posted by a concerned citizen from that area. But of course, to you, they are just "Left Wing Conspiracy Nutbags".

And, I can tell your response to my post - 'FU Moron'.. Ya, you're real good at that.

Sorry my dear little squirrel, I'm already ahead of your curve. Done my research on that quite a while back.

As for the confiscation theory, its not theory, its fact. Obama signed an EO that allows the government to claim property rights over virtually EVERYTHING OWNED BY EVERYONE to the corporation known as UNITED STATES INC. Its already FACT, so in your assertion that its conspiracy theory, YOU didn't do YOUR research. (Hmmm, how about that one) I love it when your little squirrel mind bitch-slaps YOU once again.

As for the cure to cancer, my grandad was a country doctor for 62 years. He knew what the cure to cancer was. Cancer is merely a mold that grows in the body. UV light therapy and a mild solution of baking soda (0.05%) injected into the bloodstream totally eliminates cancer. Ya, the global elite don't want this one out. And its the reason a doctor from Lubbock TX lost his license. He brought this out in early 1980's. How about you do your research for a change..?? (there is a doctor in Nogales, MX that cures cancer with a powder made from tree bark of South American trees, I know, I had a friend with cancer go see him and came back, lived 18 more years, after American doctors gave him 6 mos to a year to live.)

Before you rebuke me or post - FU Moron - how about you do YOUR research this time. With your great computer skills and superior intellect, it should be no problem.

And notice I did my best to keep it civil, which I know you won't.
Well well, JMHO, you did it again. You who advoca... (show quote)


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Awesome...

Thank You.

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Jun 16, 2015 12:33:16   #
DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca
 
JMHO wrote:
This folks, is what these conspiracy nut bags believe in.

Judging conspiracy theories on their virtues can be fraught with peril. For starters, they're typically—and often purposely—vague debates, relying more on emotion than logic. They often use ad hominem reasoning and accusatory statements to make their cases, while not offering believable counter arguments. Refuting them gets you labeled as nothing more than a co-conspirator shilling for (pick one) Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Government, or Big Hollywood.

Here are some conspiracy these nuts believe in:

1. The Obama administration has stockpiled 30,000 guillotines. The Obama administration is supposedly up to some really horrible things using the President’s executive powers. One, which began circulating last year is starting to compete with the old FEMA concentration camp conspiracy, which began around 2009.

In one versions of this conspiracy, Congress approved the secret stockpiling of guillotines in 2013. Another, which is a bit more complex, says the Obama administration acquired the guillotines “for governmental purposes” through a series of executive orders. Infowars.com contributor Jim Garrow has been peddling a hybrid version of this story, conflating Obamacare, FEMA, birtherism, and Sharia law to paint a genocidal, New World Order dystopia.

With the spate of bungled death-row executions, and a federal judge pining over the good ‘ol days of firing squads and beheadings, the rumor continues to circulate on social media and conspiracy sites.

While the mythbusting site Snopes says this rumor first began to circulate during the Bush administration, it points to the anti-Muslim conspiracy theory website, Sharia Unveiled, as one of the more recent sources of this wild rumor.

“As usual with such types of rumors, none of those sites offered any evidence documenting that Congress had approved the purchase of guillotines, that the U.S. government had actually bought tens of thousands of those instruments, or that such machines were stored in stockpiles in Georgia and Montana, as claimed — all that information was simply repetition of rumor asserted as fact (i.e., 'information we received') with no proof whatsoever behind it,” says Snopes.

But this theory is nothing to lose your head over. The “Chanel” guillotine provided as visual proof by Sharia Unveiled is actually a tongue-in-cheek creation by artist Tom Sachs, which was part of a 1988 art show called “Creativity is the Enemy.” There has never been a congressional resolution, law, or executive order from the government to stockpile guillotines.

2. The feds can steal the contents of all safe deposit boxes. Over the past year, dozens of investment and conspiracy websites have claimed that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banks they can raid the contents of safe deposit boxes without warrant and confiscate any valuables they find. Again, like many conspiracy theories, this one has many versions, including one that says the executive order was originally given in 1933 by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Back in ‘33, President Roosevelt did sign an executive order, famously known as Executive Order 6102, that forbade the “hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States.” In essence, it made it a crime for individuals, corporations, and organizations to possess monetary gold.

The rationale behind this order was that the hoarding of gold was damaging the prospects of an economic recovery from the Great Depression. It did, however, allow for the possession of small amounts of gold currency, and offered compensation to those who turned over their gold to the Federal Reserve. Dentists, jewelers and craftsmen who worked in gold were given some exemptions. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation repealing the essence of Executive Order 6102.

That’s where the truth behind the conspiracy ends. Since at least the mid-1990s, it's been widely circulated that Roosevelt signed another executive order, only five days after taking office, ordering all the safe deposit boxes in the U.S. to be seized and searched for gold by the Internal Revenue Service. The mass raid of safe deposit boxes never occurred.

The first specific reference to this hoax was in the 1996 book After the Crash, Life In the New Great Depression. Later iterations of the conspiracy theory included silver, diamonds and bonds. More recently, chain mails and websites have circulated the claim that the Department of Homeland Security has informed banking institutions that “under the Patriot Act” it reserves the right to seize the contents of vaulted safe deposit boxes in the event of martial law—including the seizure of guns!

There is no such provision under the Patriot Act, and no banks have come forward with evidence that Homeland Security has issued such an ominous warning.

3. The government and medical industry are hiding a cure for cancer. More than a third of Americans believe that the U.S. government just wants us all to get sick and die, according a recent survey by the University of Chicago. When asked if they believe the Food and Drug Administration purposely conceals information on natural, alternative treatments for cancer, 37% said yes. Fewer respondents said they disagreed with this conspiracy theory.

This meme has been circulating for decades, and is arguably one of the oldest, strongest and most cynical of government conspiracy theories. The biggest reason it has legs is probably the theme that greed is behind it all. It’s widely held that cancer is a cash cow for doctors, Big Pharma and the government. When people are sick and dying of cancer, there’s money to be made.

But when you consider that cancer is actually a large and complex assortment of diseases, it’s very doubtful, according to researchers, that there’s one cure-all for the entire array.

As Steven Novella, the publisher of Science-Based Medicine points out, the claim that Big Pharma has too much to lose if a single cure for cancer is foundis a practical fallacy. He says it would take $100 million in research or more to prove a drug was a cure for just one type of cancer, let alone all types.

“Why would a pharmaceutical company spend that kind of research money on a drug they know they have no intention of marketing, just so that they can suppress it?” he writes. “Also—where would they do such research? How could they get past all the regulatory hurdles to perform human research without revealing what they are doing?”

How the discovery of such a cure could be kept from the public also doesn’t seem plausible, according to Novella. He notes the medical community is massive and diverse, with many contrasting viewpoints and goals.

“Often those who claim that ‘they’ are hiding a cure for cancer have only a vague notion of who ‘they’ are,” he writes. “The medical establishment is composed of universities, professional organizations, journals, regulatory agencies, researchers, funding agencies, and countless individuals— all with differing incentives and perspectives. The idea that they would all be in on a massive conspiracy to hide perhaps the greatest cure known to mankind is beyond absurd.”

​4. The feds blanketed the South with fake, plastic snow. After uncharacteristically Arctic-like conditions in the South early this year, several websites and YouTube videos pushed a conspiracy theory that the white stuff falling from the sky was not snow, but a plastic impostor that was engineered by the federal government for nefarious reasons that were never explained.

A spate of videos cropped up in January and February showing people unsuccessfully trying to melt snow with butane lighters. The snow doesn’t melt, but becomes a gas with the remaining solid becoming tinged with black. In some of the videos, the video bloggers claim the snow gives off a toxic smell. They insist it’s not real snow, but a chemical geo-engineered by the government and dumped on southern states.


Except it wasn’t. Meteorologist Mike Stone, who works for CBS affiliate WTVR, explainedthat what the video bloggers reported was nothing unusual.

“When you heat something like this, it goes from a solid to a gas. It’s called sublimation. It doesn’t go from a solid to a liquid, i.e. melting,” he said.

Meanwhile, other YouTube users posted their own videos debunking the fake snow reports.

“Bottom line, if you don’t want to waste five minutes watching this video, butane burns dirty. The smell is not from the snow, the black on the snow is not because it’s plastic; it’s because of the butane,” said one video blogger.

Many of the videos attempting to expose the snow conspiracy have either been taken down or made private since we first reported this in February, but geo-engineering conspiracy sites still promote the myth.

5. Lizard people. According to a survey one in 25 people believe the world is run by lizard people. 12 million Americans believe it. The theory goes that cleverly disguised reptilian aliens travelled to Earth thousands of years ago to infiltrate our highest echelons of government. There are techno music-laden YouTube videos with news anchors with reptilian eyes to prove it. Only not.
To augment human eyes on films there are certain methods including speeding up, zooming in and editing clips to achieve a menacing lizard slither of an eye.

6. Adam and Eve came from space . This one is straight out of the Twilight Zone: Adam and Eve were extraterrestrials who travelled to Earth aboard a space ark piloted by Noah. Conspiracy theorists believe the government has been covering it up but through the Freedom of Information Act they were able to uncover documents that allegedly reveal that a flying saucer crashed into Mount Ararat in Turkey where the ark is traditionally believed to have come from.

The likelihood of Noah’s intergalactic ark is a long shot, but the idea of panspermia (the idea our planet’s original single-celled organisms have extraterrestrial origins) is still being studied.

7. The Moon does not exist. There are some who believe the Moon landings were fake and then there are those who believe the Moon doesn’t exist at all. Instead they claim the Moon is just a convincing hologram. Naturally there is a dodgy YouTube clip to prove this, which shows a power glitch in the Moon’s artificial electrical system.
Yes, and it’s made out of cheese and we’re all just puppets in a big virtual world.

8. Flight MH17 Is Actually MH370. The insanity of this idea pales, however, in comparison to this other theory purported by Russia’s News 2.

According to The New Republic, the Russian public is being told that MH17 wasn’t filled with live people but with corpses, wasn’t flown by a human being but by autopilot and wasn’t blown up by a surface-to-air missile but was packed with a bomb.

This theory also states that MH17 is actually MH370, the plane that supposedly sank somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

According to these claims, the plane was actually taken to Diego-Garcia, an American naval base on a tiny island in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Then it was taken to Holland and programmed by the US to fly and explode over the People’s Republic of Donetsk, framing the Ukrainian separatists.

Russian television has been pushing the conspiracy by dehumanizing the victims, speculating that their Facebooks were all mysteriously created on the same day and even that their passports were tossed in to the wreckage after the crash.

These reports make it a point never to show the victims’ grieving families either.

The conspiracy theory is obviously ludicrous but that doesn’t mean much in a country as censored as Russia, where it’s basically illegal to condemn the government on TV and the only widely-available news is what the Putin regime wants the people to hear.

There are more, but these should keep these conspiracy nut bags busy for awhile.
This folks, is what these conspiracy nut bags beli... (show quote)


JHMO - Damn, I'm at a loss for words. I am really happy to read this. It's truly made my day.
And, you are going to get so much flack from the
conspiracy theorists. A wild ride. Guillotines, ha ha.

Putin's Russia a horror story, a waking nightmare.
Get Edward Snowden out of there. I've "tweeted"
POTUS, President Obama about this. Suggested that
Snowden ought not to have been scapegoat, and
that perhaps the NSA executives should have been
sent there instead. And I really do think it's time for
Snowden to get his passport back, go to one of the
countries who are willing to give him asylum. There is
no way that he could return to the USA, and have anything like a "fair" trial.

That would be a theory only the so-called Patriots
would back. And why this need for choosing either:
one is a Patriot or one is a Traitor. This is lacking any
sort of reasonable labeling. What a narrow view it
presents to the American people. It's b.s. exponential.

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Jun 16, 2015 12:37:27   #
DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca
 
eagleye13 wrote:
jmho; You show how stupid you are, over, and over, and over, and over.
You dig your hole deeper, every time you have no legitimate response.
It has to go beyond stupidity though.
You are bought.
We would reallylike to see an example of your "common sense".
Please, Please, Please!!!
Post some, or at least one of those videos you made for the Communist, turned Fascist, David Horowitz.
JMHO - Will you do that?


Eagleye and Trackster, wow, you are really down on
JHMO. He is the truth sayer, and you both are neither
civil nor correct. Good for your friend with cancer.
You believe what is posted on Facebook? Really?
Or on UTUBE?

Reply
 
 
Jun 16, 2015 12:37:27   #
DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca
 
eagleye13 wrote:
jmho; You show how stupid you are, over, and over, and over, and over.
You dig your hole deeper, every time you have no legitimate response.
It has to go beyond stupidity though.
You are bought.
We would reallylike to see an example of your "common sense".
Please, Please, Please!!!
Post some, or at least one of those videos you made for the Communist, turned Fascist, David Horowitz.
JMHO - Will you do that?


Eagleye and Trackster, wow, you are really down on
JHMO. He is the truth sayer, and you both are neither
civil nor correct. Good for your friend with cancer.
You believe what is posted on Facebook? Really?
Or on UTUBE? This is beyond understanding. And, of
course, Sicianthing, I believe you had something to say about this. Or maybe it was another OPP post.

I hope you feel better later today. I'm going. Have
Physical Therapy. So long. :?: :?: :?: :roll: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbup: to JHMO. And a big :-)

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Jun 16, 2015 12:44:21   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
jmho is a Truthsayer?
What truth?
He never says anything.
So a recap is in order here.
I was taken in by this article sent to me via Facebook. It turns out it was from a pro Israeli site.
The article was a misinfo ploy to disparage some truth about guillotine legislation in Georgia, etc.
Good old jmho got all puffy chested over this.
bdamage had the dedication to get to the truth, and did some fine investigating. Shown below.
It turns out those jmho loves to defend, put this article out.
Surprise,surprise.
I was taken in, and have admitted to it.
Thanks bd for digging into this.
Some egg spilled over onto Jmho, and his fellow travelers.

This article is bogus;
“Why did US government purchase 30,000 guillotines?”
It was put out by a pro Israeli site, for dis-information,
Schuyler Montague is the administrator and Sharia Unveiled is an offshoot of Bare Naked Islam which was created by Bonni, who cannot reveal her real name because there is a fatwa world wide for her death.
I do know from a reliable source that her site has been turned over to one her associates and she has recently relocated from Canada to Israel.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radio-jihad/2012/01/02/the-radio-jihad-show--mama-mia-no-sha...

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profile/SchuylerMontague

*FM 3-19.40 (FM 19-40)
Field Manual Headquarters NO. 3-19.40 Department of the Army Washington. DC. 1August 200.1
Military Police InternmentlResettlement Operations
Contents
Page
PREFACE .................................................................................................................... v
PART ONE FUNDAMENTALS OF INTERNMENTIRESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS

DanceTherapist wrote:
Eagleye and Trackster, wow, you are really down on
JHMO. He is the truth sayer, and you both are neither
civil nor correct. Good for your friend with cancer.
You believe what is posted on Facebook? Really?
Or on UTUBE?

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Jun 16, 2015 12:47:15   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
DanceTherapist wrote:
Eagleye and Trackster, wow, you are really down on
JHMO. He is the truth sayer, and you both are neither
civil nor correct. Good for your friend with cancer.
You believe what is posted on Facebook? Really?
Or on UTUBE?


Who made this list up for you.
Making half truths and out right BS is how the dis-information powers operate.
Here is the "manual" in full as distributed by the DoD.
It's real!
*FM 3-19.40 (FM 19-40)
Field Manual Headquarters NO. 3-19.40 Department of the Army Washington. DC. 1August 200.1
Military Police
InternmentlResettlement Operations

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDoQFjAE&url=http%3A%..

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Jun 16, 2015 12:51:54   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are truly off hinge


Not near as off hinge as you conspiracy nut bags. :D

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