I've told you my family background, that I am a proud Zionist, that I am a US Navy vet, a liberal, and majored in US history at Wagner College, I also taught US history for thirty years as well as modern world history, and government.
You have said less than nothing about yourself, except for some bs about having been in the Marines and of Scotch- Irish background, which I don't believe for a second. I am looking into the Liberty incident, but I will take my time in trying to put everything together. I may or may not post my results because it is difficult to get the entire story. It's complicated. I have a good idea of what happened, but much of what I think can not be proven. It is not so much the what happened as the reason for it.

I'm sure your book sold through Amazon is a interesting read... It's faster to just look at your dividends from Northrop Grumman or Raytheon over the years... The billions in tax dollars that go out then come back to military contractors is ludicrous and it seems to me that Bush and Obama have now broke the bank.... Weather it was to save the petro dollar, the Jew's or both is pretty much irrelevant at this point ... 18 trillion is a tuff nut to crack... My argument with you is you seem to think that Zionism is a Neocon, plutocratic monopoly, I don't.... I think the Palestinians would exterminate the Jew's if they could both now and then... I always choose the underdog

Unbelievable!

Here we have a massive federal government, loaded with overreaching bureaucracies, most of which work against each other, particularly in the intelligence and LE agencies, all vying for the holy dollar, all staking out their own space in the great lumbering machine, and because of the lack of communication and data sharing between the various agencies (the conflicts of interest and counterproductive policies are legion), the government overall is incapable of competent, streamlined, efficient operations. And, the entire monster leaks like a sieve. People cannot keep their mouths shut. Info, data, even classified intel is pouring out of government mouths (or being hacked) like a veritable tsunami.

Moreover, the leaders of the government, particularly, as we hear constantly about Bush, are a bunch of incompetent dunderheads who can't even tie their own shoes. And these leaders (and agencies), who can't scratch their asses and pick their noses at the same time, are supposed to be capable of planning, organizing, and executing attacks on their own people without a single stumble. Without a single leaked warning, without a single whistle blown. Every damned one of these "conspiracies" are after the fact fabrications, driven by human emotion, gullibility, and residual non-scientific observations--seeing only what they want to see.

No, I don't trust the government either, but to believe that this monstrous, astronomically expensive and dysfunctional machine is capable of carrying out false flag events (especially of the magnitude of 9/11) without a single hitch is absolutely insane.

All this crap about "Bush knew this", "Clinton knew that", "the FBI did this", "the CIA did that", is utter nonsense.

The free American magazine published several copies of pages from NYC news papers in 1934, then one announcing the forming of the ADL as a branch of the Bine Brith. It seems over 120 jews were arrested tried and sentenced to prison for a white slavery ring! The stated agenda of the ADL was "to change the reputation of the new york zionist jews" Sort of like a ad agency, to sell the public that they were wonderful, and never did anything criminal! Of course all of that crap was moot in the 50s after the Rosenburg affair came to light, over 40 jews were involved in that one. But later they successfully covered up the jewish theft of the 5000 lbs of nuclear material that Israel used to make their A Bombs! No one knows (but the Mossad) how many jews were involved in that caper! They still deny having them....but put Mordecai Vanunu in prison for exposing that program....that they "Don't have"? There's a lot more!

Seems that we dropped two nuke's on Japan , the theory at the time was it would save many 10's of thousands of Lives... mostly American .... now were we Neocon's or socialists?

from Wiki...Muravchik was one of the group of writers who moved away from the political left in the 1960s and 1970s and came to be called “neoconservatives.” In 1986, a Wall Street Journal editor wrote: “Joshua Muravchik may be the most cogent and careful of the neoconservative writers on foreign policy.” [2] Muravchik wrote in defense of neoconservative position when it became highly controversial during the years of George W. Bush’s presidency.[3]

Muravchik received an undergraduate degree from City College of New York (1970) and a Ph.D in international relations from Georgetown University (1984). He also received an honorary doctorate from the Aurel Vlaicu University of Romania (2004).[4] In 1998 he received a citation from the Polish parliament for his activities on behalf of Solidarity.

Muravchik was National Chairman of the Young People's Socialist League (YPSL) from 1968 to 1973, and executive director of the Coalition for a Democratic Majority from 1977 to 1979. He was also an aide to the late Congressman James G. O'Hara (D-Mich.) in 1975 and to the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) in 1977 and as a campaign aide to the late Senator Henry M. Jackson in his pursuit of the 1976 Democratic presidential nomination.[5]

Muravchik serves on the board of trustees and the executive committee of Freedom House.[6] He was a member of the State Department’s Advisory Committee on Democracy Promotion from 2002 to 2009,[7] and a member of the Commission on Broadcasting to the People's Republic of China in 1992. He served on the Maryland State Advisory Committee of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights from 1985 to 1997. He is a member of the editorial boards of World Affairs, Journal of Democracy, and The Journal of International Security Affairs, as well as being an Advisory Editor at Fathom.

Muravchik argued in the Washington Post that the United States should attack Iran, stating: "Does this mean that our only option is war? Yes, although an air campaign targeting Iran’s nuclear infrastructure would entail less need for boots on the ground than the war Obama is waging against the Islamic State, which poses far smaller a threat than Iran does." [8]