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Reverend explains why freshmen Congressional members did not see the real Israel.
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Aug 13, 2015 08:31:40   #
payne1000
 
"Dear Freshmen Members of the House of Representatives,

I’m sorry to have missed you!

Upon reading the newspaper this morning, I realized that we were in Israel/Palestine at the exact same time. For many of you, this was your first trip to the Holy Land. It was mine too. I understand that the purpose of your trip was to “see the region first hand and meet with key Israeli and Palestinian leaders.” It sounds like we had similar objectives— yet, we never ran into each other! I get the feeling we had two very different trips and I worry that your “first hand” experience might be limited to a perspective offered only by those funding your trip. While the leaders I met weren’t all government officials, they did have first hand experience as people directly impacted by the lack of peace and justice in the region.
Youth in Silwan.

See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/freshmen-members-representatives?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=c34035f567-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b86bace129-c34035f567-398535137#sthash.EiOVLqXS.dpuf



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Aug 15, 2015 02:44:04   #
9th Marines
 
payne1000 wrote:
"Dear Freshmen Members of the House of Representatives,

I’m sorry to have missed you!

Upon reading the newspaper this morning, I realized that we were in Israel/Palestine at the exact same time. For many of you, this was your first trip to the Holy Land. It was mine too. I understand that the purpose of your trip was to “see the region first hand and meet with key Israeli and Palestinian leaders.” It sounds like we had similar objectives— yet, we never ran into each other! I get the feeling we had two very different trips and I worry that your “first hand” experience might be limited to a perspective offered only by those funding your trip. While the leaders I met weren’t all government officials, they did have first hand experience as people directly impacted by the lack of peace and justice in the region.
Youth in Silwan.

See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/freshmen-members-representatives?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=c34035f567-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b86bace129-c34035f567-398535137#sthash.EiOVLqXS.dpuf
i "Dear Freshmen Members of the House of Rep... (show quote)


:D :D :D :D :D

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Aug 15, 2015 04:00:54   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
payne1000 wrote:
"Dear Freshmen Members of the House of Representatives,

I’m sorry to have missed you!

Upon reading the newspaper this morning, I realized that we were in Israel/Palestine at the exact same time. For many of you, this was your first trip to the Holy Land. It was mine too. I understand that the purpose of your trip was to “see the region first hand and meet with key Israeli and Palestinian leaders.” It sounds like we had similar objectives— yet, we never ran into each other! I get the feeling we had two very different trips and I worry that your “first hand” experience might be limited to a perspective offered only by those funding your trip. While the leaders I met weren’t all government officials, they did have first hand experience as people directly impacted by the lack of peace and justice in the region.
Youth in Silwan.

See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/freshmen-members-representatives?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=c34035f567-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b86bace129-c34035f567-398535137#sthash.EiOVLqXS.dpuf
i "Dear Freshmen Members of the House of Rep... (show quote)


So What , one sided story means NOTHING idiot!!!

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Aug 15, 2015 09:24:44   #
payne1000
 
reconreb wrote:
So What , one sided story means NOTHING idiot!!!


Why don't you explain what the reverend got wrong?

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Aug 15, 2015 19:33:15   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why don't you explain what the reverend got wrong?


Like I said , one side of the story, just watch the news dude both sides kill each other , 9 out of 10 times its the hezbala or palistenains fireing rockets into Israel, and then a retaliation, and it is a very complicated problem is it not?

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Aug 15, 2015 20:38:04   #
payne1000
 
reconreb wrote:
Like I said , one side of the story, just watch the news dude both sides kill each other , 9 out of 10 times its the hezbala or palistenains fireing rockets into Israel, and then a retaliation, and it is a very complicated problem is it not?


Not complicated in a moral sense. Zionists have been mass murdering Palestinians and stealing their land for over half a century. Do you side with thieving mass murderers?

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Aug 16, 2015 13:29:46   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Not complicated in a moral sense. Zionists have been mass murdering Palestinians and stealing their land for over half a century. Do you side with thieving mass murderers?


Just like the man said... that's only one side of the story, back in the early 30's when the Jew's were a major minority the Local Arabs murdered Jewish farmers and settlers on a regular basis , in the 40's they vowed to push the Jew's into the sea... Only problem Larry... the Jew's united and learned how defend themselves .... The Arabs out number the Jew's 100 to 1 in the middle east... The biggest problem with the Arabs is they cant learn to get along with one another let alone the Jew's ....

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Aug 16, 2015 13:42:49   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Just like the man said... that's only one side of the story, back in the early 30's when the Jew's were a major minority the Local Arabs murdered Jewish farmers and settlers on a regular basis , in the 40's they vowed to push the Jew's into the sea... Only problem Larry... the Jew's united and learned how defend themselves .... The Arabs out number the Jew's 100 to 1 in the middle east... The biggest problem with the Arabs is they cant learn to get along with one another let alone the Jew's ....
Just like the man said... that's only one side of ... (show quote)


As is your habit, you don't supply sources to back up your misinformation.

Over the last few centuries before the Zionists started to invade Palestine in the early 1900s, Jews and Arabs lived peaceably with each other and many intermarried. That's why in Israel today descendants of the early Jews in the Middle East (Sephardic Jews) are treated as second-class citizens.

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Aug 16, 2015 13:51:09   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
As is your habit, you don't supply sources to back up your misinformation.

Over the last few centuries before the Zionists started to invade Palestine in the early 1900s, Jews and Arabs lived peaceably with each other and many intermarried. That's why in Israel today descendants of the early Jews in the Middle East (Sephardic Jews) are treated as second-class citizens.


You can start here.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

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Aug 16, 2015 14:00:02   #
payne1000
 


Here's a much more accurate account by the Jewish son of an Israeli General who led IDF in 1948:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ

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Aug 16, 2015 14:47:45   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Here's a much more accurate account by the Jewish son of an Israeli General who led IDF in 1948:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ


Another guy on youtube selling a book.... how uncontroversial ....


htt://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/10/resolution-181.pdf

http://www.pij.org/details.php?id=104

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Aug 16, 2015 16:06:39   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Another guy on youtube selling a book.... how uncontroversial ....


htt://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/10/resolution-181.pdf

http://www.pij.org/details.php?id=104


If Peled chose to write a book to make a profit, he wouldn't have chosen to write about a subject which would make him the hated target of all Zionism.
If his father wasn't such a national hero, Peled would probably not be alive today. Did you know that his father, the IDF general, became an activist for Palestinian rights after he retired from the military?

Your first link is in error and won't open.

Your second link explains why the Arabs would not accept the extremely unfair UN partition. This information does not strengthen your case.

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Aug 16, 2015 16:58:01   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
If Peled chose to write a book to make a profit, he wouldn't have chosen to write about a subject which would make him the hated target of all Zionism.
If his father wasn't such a national hero, Peled would probably not be alive today. Did you know that his father, the IDF general, became an activist for Palestinian rights after he retired from the military?

Your first link is in error and won't open.

Your second link explains why the Arabs would not accept the extremely unfair UN partition. This information does not strengthen your case.
If Peled chose to write a book to make a profit, h... (show quote)


http://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/10/resolution-181.pdf
I posted both sides...
extremely unfair... there were several plans through the years ... the final plan left Israel 1/8 the amount of land and close to 50/50 to Palestine ... you must have forgot about Transjordan

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Aug 16, 2015 19:44:59   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
http://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/10/resolution-181.pdf
I posted both sides...
extremely unfair... there were several plans through the years ... the final plan left Israel 1/8 the amount of land and close to 50/50 to Palestine ... you must have forgot about Transjordan


The Balfour Declaration was not a legal document. It was Britain's attempt at paying off the Zionists for convincing President Wilson to enter WWI on the side of the allies against Germany.

George Galloway explains why the Balfour Declaration is totally bogus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JInrihYqg

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Aug 17, 2015 14:49:28   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
The Balfour Declaration was not a legal document. It was Britain's attempt at paying off the Zionists for convincing President Wilson to enter WWI on the side of the allies against Germany.

George Galloway explains why the Balfour Declaration is totally bogus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JInrihYqg


So it's basically that simple ... that was sarcastic humor correct?.... I guess the Brits and French who controlled and divided up the middle eastern land from the defeat of the ottoman empire had no authority ... no wounder the middle east is a mess ... your video argues the wording between state and home for Jew's in Balfour...your Brit Politian sure told that kid :lol:

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